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Roger Gunkel June 19th, 2013, 12:41 PM Strangely, there is a limiter on the headphone output, which controls the maximum volume that you can hear even though there is an output level control. You can turn it off in the settings though.
Roger
Chris Hewitt July 2nd, 2013, 08:18 AM Roger, I used the Sony PX312's at a wedding this past weekend and found them to be good.
The levels were a bit high on the 'Interview' setting, almost clipping, the waveform was pretty packed so I'll experiment with the other scenes and post back.
This may well have been because there was no PA for the speeches so they were havingto speak louder ...it was in a big marquee with all the dead acoustics you'd expect.
Having three of these mics made it all so much easier but having said that, I DO have a small sync drift on the timeline between the Sonys and my AC160.
This could be down to the fact that all my audio is set to wav 16/48kHz except the Sony mics which are mp3 16/44kHz....no option to upscale in the recorder unless I downscale the other audio sources.
Nigel Barker July 2nd, 2013, 08:49 AM Strangely, there is a limiter on the headphone output, which controls the maximum volume that you can hear even though there is an output level control. You can turn it off in the settings though.
RogerThis is a legal requirement so that the young folk don't deafen themselves listening to music at high volume on their iDevices & WalkPersons.
Roger Gunkel July 2nd, 2013, 09:47 AM Nigel- that would be a good idea until they find the setting that turns the limiter off!
Chris- I recorded a 40 minute ceremony at the weekend and the Sonys stayed in synch with the camera audio. The drift for you could be a difference in the mp3 and wav. files although that seems unusual, but you should be able to adjust the mp3 playback speed slightly on the time line to keep synch, by stretching or shrinking the mp3 timeline file.
Roger
Chris Hewitt July 2nd, 2013, 11:23 AM Roger, it's only about a quarter of a second out over 50 minutes so I've cut the file at the start of each of the four speakers, made the sync adjustment and it's fine.
You did say 'Interview' for the scene, didn't you? I can't find the original post now....
Roger Gunkel July 2nd, 2013, 04:07 PM Hi Chris,
I do usually use 'Interview' setting for the vows, with the mic clipped low down on the Groom's jacket. That is the second to lowest sensitivity setting with 'Voice Notes' being the least sensitive. If you do get some clipping, you could try the Voice Notes instead especially if you have the mic near the speaker's mouth.
How didi you find them in use compared to the Zoom H1, I think you said you had one of those? Personally I find the Sony quicker and easier to set up and the sound as good as the Sony.
Next week I have a 4 camera school production shoot and I will be using the Sonys and the Zoom on the stage, so it will be interesting to compare results with my previous efforts. I will probably use different settings on them as a sound check will be impossible.
Roger
Rob Cantwell July 24th, 2013, 06:51 PM i'm in the market for another small digital recorder and found this product ICD-PX333M | Notetakers | Features | ICDPX333M.CE7 | ICDPX333M | Sony (http://www.sony.ie/product/dic-notetakers/icd-px333m)
Disregard the price as i can get it for nearly €20 cheaper from Amazon (beats me how Sony manage to sell anything here!!)
anyway i was wondering is this similar to the one discussed on this thread just a different model - 4Gig instead of 2 Gig
Nigel Barker July 25th, 2013, 06:29 AM i'm in the market for another small digital recorder and found this product ICD-PX333M | Notetakers | Features | ICDPX333M.CE7 | ICDPX333M | Sony (http://www.sony.ie/product/dic-notetakers/icd-px333m)
Disregard the price as i can get it for nearly €20 cheaper from Amazon (beats me how Sony manage to sell anything here!!)
anyway i was wondering is this similar to the one discussed on this thread just a different model - 4Gig instead of 2 GigRob, it looks identical to the ICD-PX312M so I would guess that it is just double the memory.
Rob Cantwell July 25th, 2013, 07:00 AM good stuff, cant complain about the price.
thnx
Alan Kelly July 30th, 2013, 02:18 AM Hey Noa, I've been following your lead on this since I first read you mention this idea months ago. Have purchased two and gaffer them to microphones when I have to (if I can avoid it, I don't -- I don't like seeing them in shot). But -- do you find that the Yamaha C24 is sometimes "temperamental"? Meaning -- it stops recording after a minute for no apparent reason? (And it's not because I've accidentally left it on standby; I've sat there and watched the device and seen this happen.)
This has happened to me a few times. If I reformat the micro SD, that seems to solve things every time (note: I always format all my cards before I start a wedding, so I'm skeptical it's a formatting issue that's causing this). The main consequence is that I can't record, press hold, and forget. I need to come back and check to make sure they're actually running.
Anyway, curious to know whether you or anyone else has had similar experiences.
Hey Adrian this has happened to me too randomly with the Yamaha c24 - it just stops and knocks off resulting in 0kb file - unusable. Its messed up a few speeches for me. I dont really trust it anymore. Not sure if its the micro sd sandisk card. I try and let it run for 30mins prior to speeches to see how its behaving. Sound is fantastic when it does work. Not really practical to mic up every speaker here in Ireland. - there could be 5/6. I'm on the look out for another slim recorder that I can fix to mic.
Nigel Barker July 30th, 2013, 11:21 PM I have never had a problem with either of my C-24s & do find the quality fantastic especially with a little 'sweetening' in post. I don't use an extra micro-SD card as the 2GB internal memory is quite enough to record all day. I suggest that you try using it without the card.
Alan Kelly July 31st, 2013, 03:40 PM Im going to try this Nigel - thanks for the tip
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