Dylan Pank
September 23rd, 2005, 07:07 AM
Given that the 24F is supposed to be better tha the Z1's CF24, how will it be encoded to the 60i stream.
Will there be a 2:3:3:2 cedence in addition to 2:3, or will it be output as a true 24 fps file?
I wonder because I got the feeling that the Z1's attempt to do create a 2:3 cadence caused compression artefacts. I got the feeling that jumping between interlaced and un-interlaced frames within a 15 frame GOP pushed the codec a little.
Dylan.
Chris Hurd
September 23rd, 2005, 07:20 AM
Hi Dylan,
I scrolled through the XL H1 menu options last week pretty thoroughly. Indeed there is an option to select 2:3 or 2:3:3:2 for 24F. Keep in mind those were pre-production MT samples though.
Dylan Pank
September 23rd, 2005, 07:35 AM
the 2:3:3:2 cadence is good news, though I'm still concerned. I did get the feeling that having one interlaced frame would sort of reverberate through the compression GOP - it seems to on the Z1.
Steven White
September 23rd, 2005, 08:52 AM
I got the feeling that jumping between interlaced and un-interlaced frames within a 15 frame GOP pushed the codec a little.
According to David Newman - who has the best technical understanding of the HDV MPEG-2 GOP compression I know of - the FX1/Z1U is always "flagged" as an interlaced stream - regardless as to whether the data is progressive or something else.
I've never noticed any obvious compression artifacting in CF24 footage above what I would experience with CF30 or 60i.
-Steve
David Newman
September 23rd, 2005, 10:02 AM
Yes, I'm surprize the camera offers 2:3:3:2 as is doesn't need it for HDV. Although it may have marketing value as many do assume incorrectly that it will impact compression quality. However 2:3:3:2 will be handle to support the DV mode, which is helped by this field structure.