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Meryem Ersoz
April 23rd, 2013, 07:19 AM
Wow, it's great to see the UWOL energy still going strong and pioneering into new realms of ambition! and insanity!

also glad to hear that Chris still has the archives and can make them available...some remarkable, inspirational, unforgettable, and touching moments are in those archives....

I think that making collaborative projects is a logical and intelligent step towards developing yourself as a filmmaker. it's always great to be able to run around by yourself with your camera. collaboration, however, is a great teacher and will, by its very nature, take you all (UWOL) to new arenas of development in the craft.

Trond asked me to supply a few notes - words of advice - whatever. The more I know, the less I know but here goes:

Keep your core concepts simple. Let complexity arise from the simplicity. I cannot stress this enough. The more people you involve, the more that complexity will arise naturally - you don't need to create it.

Have core concepts which you stress often and refer back to often. Express those core commitments periodically so that you can re-commit to them. Otherwise the proliferation of opinions and ideas, which are great in the beginning when the energy is high, will create a "dispersal effect" where lots of great ideas and opinions get bandied about but nothing gets done.

A director is a good idea. Someone who holds the vision and the core concept for everyone with unflagging energy and enthusiasm. As a corollary to that - it's much harder than it sounds. What looks easy from the outside, is a lot of work, on the inside.

UWOL is lucky to have a guiding hand like Lorinda, in that regard, who keeps it light and makes it look easy - when it is not! Which she may only admit over beers (or some other weird adult beverage, in the wee hours of the night). Keeping the juice flowing and the energy directed is almost a fulltime job itself. It is a tried and true, efficient way to get things done.

That director will need core support - I was lucky, very lucky, to have Railsback and Thompson drop into my lap. I could not have asked for better teammates. We disagreed frequently and sometimes vehemently but respected each other, always, and remain bonded for life to this day, from our UWOL experiences.

So having a committee is a good idea, it keeps things collaborative but also keeps the energy centralized - at the same time.

Let your leaders and your players make mistakes. It will happen. Be forgiving. Be loving. Release judgment.

those are a few ruminations, for what they are worth. But I think, as in all things UWOL, the infamous rule #11 is always the key.

Have fun!

Trond Saetre
April 23rd, 2013, 07:43 AM
Thank you Meryem!
I / We really appreciate your words of wisdom.

Kevin Railsback
April 23rd, 2013, 10:08 AM
I wish I didn't have so much on my plate as far as personal issues go.
Can't tell you when the last time I picked up a camera to shoot any nature and wildlife.

I've learned so much from UWOL, Meryem, Mat and all the Filmmakers around the world thatI have met here.

Hopefully I can get back into the groove of things.

Meryem once again speaks words of wisdom.
UWOL was very lucky to have her at the helm to get this off the ground.

Trond Saetre
April 26th, 2013, 03:05 AM
I have now started the process of notifying previous uwol participants.
Hopefully I have completed this task in the beginning of next week.
The emails I send out, includes link to all 3 threads about the collaborate projects.


Edit:
So far I've sent around 20 messages. Hopefully I can do the rest within the weekend.
Already gotten a few answers. Looking good :)

Trond Saetre
April 27th, 2013, 12:38 AM
Everyone who has completed one or more uwol challenges (except for those of you who already knew for sure about these projects) should now have received a mail from me about these two projects.
Hopefully I haven't forgotten anyone.

Unfortunately a few more people had to be added to the "unable to send email" list.

I'm unable to send emails through dvinfo to the following participants:
Amelia Tanttila
Bill Thesken
Bradley Marlow
Bradley Loren
Chris Eugster
Keith Heyward
Mihali Moore
Ryan Farnes
Sam Mendolia

If anyone has their email address/contact info, please notify them.

Trond Saetre
April 27th, 2013, 07:41 AM
I received this email from one of our uwol friends, David Rice.
Unfortunately he is no longer able to participate himself, but offers to share footage.

If anyone wants to use his footage, for these collaborate projects or others, I would appreciate if you send a mail (can be done through dvinfo) to David.

"Trond,

I have set up a Free Video Clip site on Vimeo at: https://vimeo.com/channels/freestockvideoclips I'm offering my wildlife/nature 1080p video clips totally FREE to anyone, for any purpose. No strings attached. The site is self explanatory.

Let the people at UWOL know, and share with anyone else, who may be in need of some 1080p stock video for business or personal use.

The clips are FREE, and giving credit in a production is totally optional. However, If a person is so led, donations will be accepted.

I will try to add new and varied material weekly.

Dave Rice
Sitka Alaska"

Chris Hurd
April 27th, 2013, 08:55 AM
I'm unable to send emails through dvinfo to the following participants...

That's one of the biggest headaches I have, outdated / invalid email addresses for members. We don't do private messaging on this site, so the ability to contact via email is essential here.

Bill Thesken
April 29th, 2013, 12:18 AM
I checked my e-mail address in the 'Controls' for DVinfo.net and it is the correct e-mail, so I don't know why it would bounce back, oh well I sent you an e-mail Trond. Great idea for the project, count me in.

Trond Saetre
April 29th, 2013, 02:19 AM
Bill, I'm glad you can join us. :)
(Got your email, thank you)

Paul Wood
April 30th, 2013, 12:30 PM
Hi All,

Just a quick suggestion which made me remember my previous corporate life -

Working on international projects can be great fun - working with people from different cultures, and for whom English is not their first language can be very eye opening, and in my experience, very worthwhile.

I have often been on the other end of the stick, where I am the one operating in a different language, and I know this can lead to frustration in the pain and pleasures of the small misunderstandings that occur.

The other thing to bear in mind is the different time zones which we operate in, which, combined with a home life, can lead to perceived long delays before forum posts are read and responded to!

I believe we are on the verge of some great interaction across the globe, where we can be part of a group of international filmmakers with some great future projects!

Lets have some fun, learn as we go, and make great films!

Trond Saetre
May 23rd, 2013, 01:36 AM
Just a heads up for the "Around the world" project:
Make sure you sign up for the June UWOL challenge, if you want to participate.
For details, please see my post #79, page 6, in the collaborate nr 2 thread.