View Full Version : New SG35 'Real Spinning Ground Glass Adapter' Commercial version coming soon.


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Bill Porter
October 18th, 2005, 12:55 PM
Hehe

Not rose coloured but I do look for the silver lining!

Wayne Kinney
October 18th, 2005, 01:31 PM
Hello guys,
I have arranged with a Mr Anthony Bert to meet and shoot some footage with his FX-1 this Sunday. This will be the first SG35 unit sold, and if all is well, I'll post up the footage and shots of the FX-1 on the unit and will be ready to start taking orders.

The SG35 now comes with achromatic lens and 15mm support rods for an introductory price of £160.

Ill post the footage Sunday night.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Michael Maier
October 18th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Cool. Did you set a webiste up already?
Any chances of testing it with the JVC HD100?
How about some pictures of the whole rig, with rods etc?
Do you have an email address? I would like to shoot you an email.

Wayne Kinney
October 18th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Michael,
I believe its against the forum rules to post email addresses, but click on my user name and send me an email via the link.

The website is being worked on now. Are there any HD100 users out there in my area? If there are please give me a shout.

I am meeting with Anthony Bert this Sunday, we are connecting the SG35 up with his Sony FX-1 HD cam. Ill post footage and pics up on Sunday night.

Regards,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye
October 22nd, 2005, 03:00 AM
Wayne,
I know that you are extremely busy just like everyone on this site but is the test ready yet and when will you start accepting payment?

Wayne Kinney
October 22nd, 2005, 04:24 AM
Eniola,
The SG35 is being hooked up to the Sony FX-1 tomorrow, im very excited. All tests will be carried out on the FX-1. Ill post footage tomorrow night, and if I am saticfied with everything, I will be ready to accept orders.

The SG35 with 15mm rods will have an introductory price of £160 for the first 5 units. Thereafter the unit will be £199.

I'll upload a pic of the final rig tonight.

Regards,
Wayne.

Wayne Kinney
October 22nd, 2005, 10:50 AM
OK,
the FX-1 shoot has been prospond due to bad weather rendering outdoor shooting a no go. The FX-1 chap is 2 and a half hours drive away, so its best to make that journey on a more 'usable' day.

Regards,
Wayne.

Luis Otero
October 27th, 2005, 09:08 PM
Wayne,

Can you post the photo of the final product with the Rods, mounting plate, etc.?

Thanks,

Luis

PS

Most likely, tomorrow I will PayPal you the paiment for the order!

Wayne Kinney
October 28th, 2005, 05:01 PM
Hello,
Here are 2 pictures of the SG35 unit complete with 15mm rod support and baseplate as promised.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/sg35.htm

I am meeting this sunday with the chap with the Sony HDR-FX1 to test drive the SG35. I will post footage sunday night.

Once i am satisfied with the results, Sg35 will be officially released.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Quyen Le
October 28th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Looks nice Wayne.

Quyen

Robert Kirkpatrick
October 29th, 2005, 09:27 AM
This does look awesome. But I had a couple quick questions, if you don't mind.

1. How noiseless is it? Will it interfere with recording dialogue, or do I need to ensure that the internal mic is not used?

2. Will there be scrims available to raise the camera up or down to fit the lens?

3. How long would you estimate that it would take from order to production to delivery?

Looking forward to the FX1 unit, since that's my new camera.

Wayne Kinney
October 29th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Hi Robert, thanks for your interest.

1: It depends on your shooting conditions. With the SLR aperture wide open and the camcorders shutter speed at 1/50th or 1/60th, then the glass can be set to spin at its slowest setting, and the camcorders built in mic becomes an option. Its when the aperture is closed and/or the shutter speed raised that you will need to set the glass spinning slighty faster. The cams mic may hear this. This is due to tiny vibrations transmitted through the body, so an external mic would not pick this up as its not in physical contact.

2: The adapter itself raises up and down to fit different cameras. Not sure if thats what you mean?

3: Time from payment recieved to posting is 2 - 3 weeks.

I hope that helps,
Wayne.

Michael Maier
October 29th, 2005, 11:01 AM
Wayne, any chances of you testing it with the JVC HD100? Nobody has ever uploaded any footage shot with the HD100, besides the Mini35 test. I would like to see footage from one of the other affordable alternatives like the SG35, Letus35, M2 etc. But so far nobody has shown any. M2 announced they would, but they only uploaded frame grabs. I wonder why. Maybe their adapter sucked with the HD resolution.
The first adapter who shows good performance with the HD100 will be the one I will put my money on.

Wayne Kinney
October 29th, 2005, 11:16 AM
Michael,
I am currently working with a client to design a relay lens to work with the HD100. This would completely replace the stock lens, similar to what people have tried with the Canon XL series.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Robert Kirkpatrick
October 30th, 2005, 01:51 PM
Hi Robert, thanks for your interest.Thanks for the answers. Just a few more bits of clarification, if you don't mind.
2: The adapter itself raises up and down to fit different cameras. Not sure if thats what you mean?I'm referring to the part between the actual camera and the tripod in the website picture you posted. It looks like you are using an additional support to raise the camera to fit the adapter. The M2 requires a scrim to raise a GS400 camera for instance. I was just wondering if yours did as well.

Also, I was wondering. It says the purchase comes with rods. Does that include the black support portions, shown under the camera and under the adapter in the website picture? And how much does all this weigh? Thanks.

Wayne Kinney
October 30th, 2005, 01:56 PM
Robert,

No, my baseplate is not adjustable, instead the adapter adjusts in height.

The price indeed includes the 15mm rods support.

Regards,
Wayne.

Gabriel Chiefetz
October 30th, 2005, 11:56 PM
Looks very promising! One quick question:

Where do the 8AA batteries go? Do they fit into the unit as pictured, or is there a seperate battery pack as well?

Thanks!

Wayne Kinney
October 31st, 2005, 04:25 AM
Hi,
It is actually a seperate pack. I have not actually decided where to best mount the pack, but the closer to the centre of gravity is best. Im thinking of mounting it to the top of the tripod leg with some hook and loop. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Wayne.

Leo Mandy
October 31st, 2005, 09:53 AM
I think the best place would be anyplace that the user decides, but if not that, on the tripod is great or on the camera, for mobility sake.

Luis Otero
October 31st, 2005, 10:01 AM
I think we need flexibility: attached to the camera will be preferable for the handheld shooting. However, the cord should be long enough to place it on the tripod when its use is required.

Luis

Will Hanlon
October 31st, 2005, 08:17 PM
How much does the SG35 weigh (sorry if this question has been asked before)? The cost is $240 US?

Gabriel Chiefetz
October 31st, 2005, 11:44 PM
I agree that having the battery pack attached to the camera would allow for handheld shooting, and this would be ideal. This feature would make the unit much more attractive to me.

Thanks for asking!

Gabriel

Michael Maier
November 1st, 2005, 03:34 AM
As I understood, the price is 199 pounds or about 350 US dollars.

Robert Kirkpatrick
November 1st, 2005, 09:12 AM
I know I'm being ridiculously impatient here, but any word yet on the FX1 footage? :)

Wayne Kinney
November 1st, 2005, 09:30 AM
Thanks for your patients guys,

The FX-1 shoot had been canceled due to bad weather among other things.The guy needs to take a 2 and a half hour drive to get here, so we are aiming for next weekend when the trip will be more fruitful. This is kind of a one off chance for me to test with the FX-1, so really want to run full tests outside.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye
November 1st, 2005, 11:31 AM
Wayne,
A lot of modifications, lots and lots of add ons has been said and I believe done on this SG35mm Adapter.

I am sure we will have to read all the threads on this whole board to get an insight on what to expect from this piece of equipment and since you are the one producing it, I am sure you are writing everybody's request and what modifications and add ons you have completed, etc.

So, could you please provide a fully updated list of everything on the SG35 adapter. E.g, Different SG35mm Adapter packages with prices:


S35mm Adapter with ????????? options
Achromat Lens
15mm Rod
Face Cap
Bag
Cost is $???

S35mm Adapter without ????????? options
15mm Rod
Cost is $???

You know, if you can please do this so that we can know which package to save for. Just like the Micro35 Indie Bundle,
The Digital Cinematographer's Bundle and the The micro35 Cinema Lens Adapter package.

Wayne Kinney
November 1st, 2005, 11:54 AM
Hello,
I have been waiting to till i get the FX1 tested to announce the release of the SG35 with a list of prices. Below are the features:
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A real spinning glass element (not plastic) for maximum quality. The glass has also been treated for minimal light loss.

A 2 element condenser system to give a bright and completely eliminated hotspot/vignetting image, even at F16.

Adjustable ground glass spinning speed for different shooting situations. Set it a minimum for longer battery life. Adjust to spin faster when stopping down the SLR aperture or setting a faster shutter speed.

Includes and achromatic close up lens to aid in the camcorder focusing.

Includes 15mm rods support system, adjustable for different camcorders.
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Basic SG35 package:
1x SG35 unit plus 15mm rod support system £199 plus P&P

1x Optional Quick Release sliding plate for mounting camcorder £50 (not needed)


Production time from payment received to unit shipped is 2 - 3 weeks.

Thanks for your interest,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye
November 1st, 2005, 12:34 PM
What about the Achromat lens and what is the price in $$$.
Besides, I thought you stated that you are giving discounts or has the deadline passed? or was it for the first 5 units, not sure anymore.

Wayne Kinney
November 1st, 2005, 01:18 PM
The achromat is included in the £199 price.

Unfortunitly, the first 5 units have already been sold, even though its not officially released. So the price will be £199 (about $350) plus P&P.

Regards,
Wayne.

Wayne Kinney
November 2nd, 2005, 05:59 AM
Strange, it says last post by gary stone, but nothing there?

Wayne.

Wayne Kinney
November 2nd, 2005, 06:00 AM
Strange, it says last post by gary stone, but nothing there?

Wayne.

Wayne Kinney
November 2nd, 2005, 06:00 AM
is there something wrong with the forum this morning? It says last post by gary stone, yet nothing there?

Wayne

Eniola Akintoye
November 2nd, 2005, 07:33 AM
Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Eniola Akintoye
November 2nd, 2005, 07:33 AM
Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Eniola Akintoye
November 2nd, 2005, 07:33 AM
Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Wayne Kinney
November 2nd, 2005, 08:02 AM
Eniola

please email me using the link from my name on the left, so we can discuse futher.

Regards
Wayne

Wayne Kinney
November 2nd, 2005, 04:23 PM
Hello,

Please email me via the link from my name to the right.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Wayne Kinney
November 3rd, 2005, 07:16 AM
Is the forum up and running again?

Wayne.

Gary Stone
November 3rd, 2005, 12:18 PM
hello all...

what are the pieces holding the rods constructed out of? is that wood or have i gone nutty?

gary

Wayne Kinney
November 3rd, 2005, 02:28 PM
constructed from acetal plastic (very though plastic).

Thanks,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye
November 3rd, 2005, 02:48 PM
Eniola

please email me using the link from my name on the left, so we can discuse futher.

Regards
Wayne




I have been clicking your name but nothing seems to happen (got an error messsage) but o well....

I am even thinking of coming to England for X-mas Holiday but I should have gotten the adapter, tested it and if I have any complains, then I should be able to do that by then, but hopefully, everything goes on fine.

Also, I do not want a situation whereby I get to have mine and then, more new stuffs are added/changed. You know what I mean, I want to make sure I have the best and best of all the equipment that you gat basicly.

Is there a price one can pay for free upgrades? That way, we, your very first customers can enjoy the fact that we supported you work and effort in making ours and your life much easier.

By the way, do you think your 15mm Rod can be used with the Micro35 M2 Adapter?

Wayne Kinney
November 3rd, 2005, 02:54 PM
Eniola,
my email is waynekinney@hotmail.com

If you can make it to the UK then all the better. Concerning updated versions of the adapter, the design will stay the same for some time.

The 15mm rods are the standard 60mm from centre to centre, so in theory should fit the M2.

Thanks,
Wayne

Wayne Kinney
November 22nd, 2005, 05:29 PM
Hello,
I just shot some test footage with the SG35 unit. All shots are with my 1 CCD cheapo panasonic camcorder.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/sg35clip02.htm

Settings were as follows:

Cam:
Shutter speed: 1/50th sec

Aperture: F2.0 - no gain.

----------------

SG35:
Ground Glass Speed - Set to slowest speed throughout.

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SLR lens settings:

Aperture: F1.4 fully open

50mm Nikon Nikkor S

Im very happy with the results concidering it's from a cheap 1 CCD panny.

The real tests will be with the DVX100 which i hope to get at the end of the week, my customers HD100 tests which should be here thursday/friday and the z1 tests at the end of the month.

Please let me know what you think.

Quyen Le
November 22nd, 2005, 05:33 PM
Nice Wayne.

Quyen

Yasser Kassana
November 23rd, 2005, 05:33 AM
You know for a one chip camcorder - that's great. I can't wait til i test my Z1!!!

Wayne Kinney
November 24th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Thanks Yas,
Yas and myself will be meeting on the 3rd Dec to test out the Sony z1 (like FX-1) with SG35.

Wayne Kinney
December 1st, 2005, 01:13 PM
Hello,

I carried out a test shoot with the DVX100 and SG35 today. A big thank you to Stephen Pipe for making time to test the SG35 with his DVX100. We put together a quick sequence indoors, lit by a single 350w tungsten. December weather in the UK rendered outside shooting a no go.

Here is a clip, 26MB Quicktime 7 (please update to latest quicktime version to play) h.264 codec:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/SG35_dvx100.htm

And below are some pictures of the setup:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0197a.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0199a.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0200a.jpg

There are a few changes i want to make to the SG35 before offering it to dvx100 users, which im working on now.

Any comments would be great.

Yasser Kassana
December 1st, 2005, 01:33 PM
That was gooooood shiiit man. no seriously very clean footage. I'm coming on saturday man...

Justin Tran
December 1st, 2005, 09:36 PM
man that setup is looks rather big, how is it for portability/handheld stuff? DLing the footage now....

was that a dvx100 or 100a?

Wayne Kinney
December 2nd, 2005, 05:40 AM
Hello, thanks for your comments.

Yes, that matte box really added to the overall length.

It was DVX100a.

Will be testing with the z1 tomorrow.