Marius Luessi
September 17th, 2005, 02:51 PM
Preface:
I think this warrants a new thread, although there is another similar one right here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49790
I think this review would of been lost in that thread as it already was going off in other directions.
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What is LetUs35? (http://adapterplace.com)
A device, that when attached to a video camera together with a photographic lens achieves a MUCH shallower Depth Of Field, as seen in many professional productions, and normally only obtainable with more expensive, larger professional equipment. It is a low cost piece of equipment that "simulates" expensive equipment by achieving a similar look with a less expensive camera.
Equipment used in testing:
- LetUs35 (black anodized, 72mm thread, FD mount) from adapterplace.com
- Canon 50mm f1.2 FD lens
- Canon 28mm f2.8 FD lens
- Panasonic DVX-100AE camcorder (PAL)
- Sony DCR-PC120E camcorder (PAL)
- VEGAS 6 (for capture and flipping of image)
Cost of LetUs35: $300 retail ($180 as special deal sometimes available, i.e. beta testing, or eBay)
Competition to LetUs35 (from $$$ to $):
- Mini35 (pstechnik.de), note: about $9000
- Cine-One (cine-one.com/de/), note: incl. CineOne/Indi
- G35 (Guerilla35.com), note: not available as of this writing, but about $1000
- Micro35 (redrockmicro.com)
- Marla (marlathemovie.com), note: DIY
- DOF Machine, (mediachance.com/dvdlab/dof/index.htm), note: DIY
LetUs35's cost is the lowest of the ready-made units. Only cheaper option is to make one yourself, and I'm actually not quite sure if it can be done cheaper, especially if you calculate your hourly time spent building a unit at more than $1.50/hour! ;-)
Review:
I have read numerous reviews of various Depth Of Field (DOF) devices. They seem to have the following features (or maybe 'problems') in common, although to varying degree:
- they reduce the contrast
- they soften the image somewhat
- they introduce "grain"
- any dirt, dust or particular matter within the adapter will be VERY visible in the final video
- they 'lose' light
I first tested the LetUs35 with a DVX-100AE (and the Canon FD 50mm f1.2 lens), set to SQEEZE mode, and directly coupled to the DVX's front via the 72mm thread. An email to Quyen Le (of adapterplace.com, maker of LetUs35) helped me through some small issue with adjusting the LetUs35 so that it lines up correctly once threaded all the way. Email response was quick.
Once the LetUs35 is attached to the DVX-100AE, one has to zoom in just enough to view the full image, and set the manual focus correctly (reading on DVX was MF13).
The unit comes with an external battery pack which holds two AA (UM3) 1.5V batteries. I used NiMH as recommended by adapterplace.com. This battery pack has a switch which turns on a small vibratory motor which removes most of the very visible grain. I have already made suggestions to possibly integrate a rechargeable battery inside the aluminum housing, with a DC connection to charge that battery up. It would "streamline" the LetUs35 much more.
The cam's LCD will show the image up-side-down, which is nearly impossible to get used to. There are, however, tricks that can make the LCD show correctly, such as a magnet, or depending on the cam, a simple menu setting. (Note: I have not bothered for this test to figure out how to do this on both cams I tested it with.)
Now on to shooting:
Just looking at the LCD is VERY IMPRESSIVE, as one can immediately see the effect of shallow DOF. It is an amazingly useful tool, such as when a particular object or subject needs attention drawn to it. You can focus on one thing, and have everything else blurred out.
Results:
But the resulting video that I took with the DVX-100AE weren't quite as impressive as I'd hoped for, once I reviewed them on a broadcast video monitor. The images seemed washed out, not detailed, and losing much of the 'resolution'. DOF was awesome though of course.
BUT:
When tested with the DCR-PC120E, all the negative points I found in the DVX completely turned around:
Since the DCR-PC120E is quite harsh by itself, the introduction of the grain, smoothness/softness, etc, made the final image from the DCR-PC120E MUCH more pleasing than would of been possible without the LetUs35.
So, I can summarize like this:
The introduction of MORE grain, softness, etc. on the DVX proved –for me at least– to be too much. I also read that Barry G. had similar experiences when testing a G35 with a DVX. It's like having a film look applied to footage that already HAS a film look. The one positive thing is of course the addition of the shallow DOF, but it comes at a hefty price: picture quality. I guess since the DVX is so good at that all by itself, the DOF device really has to be MINIMALLY 'intrusive' on the DVX's image in all other aspects other than DOF. It really only needs to add shallow DOF, not alter the image look.
The LetUs35 just might not be able to do that alone.
B U T:
with the DCR-PC120E (and probably with most smaller cams also, maybe up to a GL1/GL2/VX2000) the LetUs35 VERY MUCH improves the look and feel in ADDITION to adding the shallow DOF.
It's almost like taking a $1000 camera, and making it into a DVX type cam, by giving it a film look, AND adding shallow DOF (I did write ALMOST! ;-). The added grain (even if only in a small amount) adds to the DCR-PC120E look, and it's fun to shoot with (although the LetUs35 is almost as big as the DCR-PC120E, so I'd have to think of how to properly attach it, as it's too much weight on the little 37mm thread of the cam)
So: the LetUs35 is a GREAT, low cost alternative to the higher end offerings. Ideally suited for probably the consumer grade cams though, IMHO. The DVX and probably also the XL-2 with their "built-in" film look, suffer too much from the added artifacts, IMO, especially as shallow DOF can be done to some degree with other little tricks without an adapter. For a DOF device to work very well with the DVX, it has to be nearly grain free and not change the image in any other way either: no or hardly no introduction of softness, no or hardly no loss of contrast, etc.
We'll have to see if the G35 can deliver in this regard (seems to cope well according to some sample clips), although like I mentioned, it is more than three times more expensive.
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The LetUs35 can turn an inexpensive camcorder into a film look camcorder with awesomely shallow DOF for under $350 (including a secondhand lens, adapter rings and shipping)
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(Notes: I didn't do extensive tests in trying to change the scene file settings with the DVX although I' sure I could of improved the picture quality somewhat.) Also: between the time when I tested the DVX and the DCR-PC100 the weather had completely changed from sunny to rainy, so I could not perform realistic and helpful side-by-side comparisons. But I will upload some screen captures soon.)
P.S.: I believe Quyen is already working on an "HD" version.
Reviewed 17 September 2005
I think this warrants a new thread, although there is another similar one right here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=49790
I think this review would of been lost in that thread as it already was going off in other directions.
=====
What is LetUs35? (http://adapterplace.com)
A device, that when attached to a video camera together with a photographic lens achieves a MUCH shallower Depth Of Field, as seen in many professional productions, and normally only obtainable with more expensive, larger professional equipment. It is a low cost piece of equipment that "simulates" expensive equipment by achieving a similar look with a less expensive camera.
Equipment used in testing:
- LetUs35 (black anodized, 72mm thread, FD mount) from adapterplace.com
- Canon 50mm f1.2 FD lens
- Canon 28mm f2.8 FD lens
- Panasonic DVX-100AE camcorder (PAL)
- Sony DCR-PC120E camcorder (PAL)
- VEGAS 6 (for capture and flipping of image)
Cost of LetUs35: $300 retail ($180 as special deal sometimes available, i.e. beta testing, or eBay)
Competition to LetUs35 (from $$$ to $):
- Mini35 (pstechnik.de), note: about $9000
- Cine-One (cine-one.com/de/), note: incl. CineOne/Indi
- G35 (Guerilla35.com), note: not available as of this writing, but about $1000
- Micro35 (redrockmicro.com)
- Marla (marlathemovie.com), note: DIY
- DOF Machine, (mediachance.com/dvdlab/dof/index.htm), note: DIY
LetUs35's cost is the lowest of the ready-made units. Only cheaper option is to make one yourself, and I'm actually not quite sure if it can be done cheaper, especially if you calculate your hourly time spent building a unit at more than $1.50/hour! ;-)
Review:
I have read numerous reviews of various Depth Of Field (DOF) devices. They seem to have the following features (or maybe 'problems') in common, although to varying degree:
- they reduce the contrast
- they soften the image somewhat
- they introduce "grain"
- any dirt, dust or particular matter within the adapter will be VERY visible in the final video
- they 'lose' light
I first tested the LetUs35 with a DVX-100AE (and the Canon FD 50mm f1.2 lens), set to SQEEZE mode, and directly coupled to the DVX's front via the 72mm thread. An email to Quyen Le (of adapterplace.com, maker of LetUs35) helped me through some small issue with adjusting the LetUs35 so that it lines up correctly once threaded all the way. Email response was quick.
Once the LetUs35 is attached to the DVX-100AE, one has to zoom in just enough to view the full image, and set the manual focus correctly (reading on DVX was MF13).
The unit comes with an external battery pack which holds two AA (UM3) 1.5V batteries. I used NiMH as recommended by adapterplace.com. This battery pack has a switch which turns on a small vibratory motor which removes most of the very visible grain. I have already made suggestions to possibly integrate a rechargeable battery inside the aluminum housing, with a DC connection to charge that battery up. It would "streamline" the LetUs35 much more.
The cam's LCD will show the image up-side-down, which is nearly impossible to get used to. There are, however, tricks that can make the LCD show correctly, such as a magnet, or depending on the cam, a simple menu setting. (Note: I have not bothered for this test to figure out how to do this on both cams I tested it with.)
Now on to shooting:
Just looking at the LCD is VERY IMPRESSIVE, as one can immediately see the effect of shallow DOF. It is an amazingly useful tool, such as when a particular object or subject needs attention drawn to it. You can focus on one thing, and have everything else blurred out.
Results:
But the resulting video that I took with the DVX-100AE weren't quite as impressive as I'd hoped for, once I reviewed them on a broadcast video monitor. The images seemed washed out, not detailed, and losing much of the 'resolution'. DOF was awesome though of course.
BUT:
When tested with the DCR-PC120E, all the negative points I found in the DVX completely turned around:
Since the DCR-PC120E is quite harsh by itself, the introduction of the grain, smoothness/softness, etc, made the final image from the DCR-PC120E MUCH more pleasing than would of been possible without the LetUs35.
So, I can summarize like this:
The introduction of MORE grain, softness, etc. on the DVX proved –for me at least– to be too much. I also read that Barry G. had similar experiences when testing a G35 with a DVX. It's like having a film look applied to footage that already HAS a film look. The one positive thing is of course the addition of the shallow DOF, but it comes at a hefty price: picture quality. I guess since the DVX is so good at that all by itself, the DOF device really has to be MINIMALLY 'intrusive' on the DVX's image in all other aspects other than DOF. It really only needs to add shallow DOF, not alter the image look.
The LetUs35 just might not be able to do that alone.
B U T:
with the DCR-PC120E (and probably with most smaller cams also, maybe up to a GL1/GL2/VX2000) the LetUs35 VERY MUCH improves the look and feel in ADDITION to adding the shallow DOF.
It's almost like taking a $1000 camera, and making it into a DVX type cam, by giving it a film look, AND adding shallow DOF (I did write ALMOST! ;-). The added grain (even if only in a small amount) adds to the DCR-PC120E look, and it's fun to shoot with (although the LetUs35 is almost as big as the DCR-PC120E, so I'd have to think of how to properly attach it, as it's too much weight on the little 37mm thread of the cam)
So: the LetUs35 is a GREAT, low cost alternative to the higher end offerings. Ideally suited for probably the consumer grade cams though, IMHO. The DVX and probably also the XL-2 with their "built-in" film look, suffer too much from the added artifacts, IMO, especially as shallow DOF can be done to some degree with other little tricks without an adapter. For a DOF device to work very well with the DVX, it has to be nearly grain free and not change the image in any other way either: no or hardly no introduction of softness, no or hardly no loss of contrast, etc.
We'll have to see if the G35 can deliver in this regard (seems to cope well according to some sample clips), although like I mentioned, it is more than three times more expensive.
======
The LetUs35 can turn an inexpensive camcorder into a film look camcorder with awesomely shallow DOF for under $350 (including a secondhand lens, adapter rings and shipping)
======
(Notes: I didn't do extensive tests in trying to change the scene file settings with the DVX although I' sure I could of improved the picture quality somewhat.) Also: between the time when I tested the DVX and the DCR-PC100 the weather had completely changed from sunny to rainy, so I could not perform realistic and helpful side-by-side comparisons. But I will upload some screen captures soon.)
P.S.: I believe Quyen is already working on an "HD" version.
Reviewed 17 September 2005