I find myself shooting primarily without a rig, holding the camera in two hands with my elbows against my body and using the EVF, not the LCD, to create three point stability.The trick that I have used with the 5D & with a stripped down C300 is to use the LCD but brace the camera by extending the neck strap. You can see James Longley doing the same thing at times in this BTS on shooting documentary with a C300 in Afghanistan. Cinema EOS: Afghanistan Documentary, James Longley on Vimeo

Taking a C100 into battle over the next few days shooting build up and red carpet at the Premiere of The Hobbit here in New Zealand.

My 5D3 is coming along as backup, but my dealer has so kindly give me the camera to demo and put through its paces..

Have confirmed with other C100 owners that there is a software bug that changes recording to B&W when you set LCD/EVF to B&W. It will important to check for other software bugs before using our team's cameras in production. Please post here if you find them.

Shame about that. I just hope Canon don't take too long getting a revised firmware out that fixes this bug.

This new video gives a quick overview of the image differences between the 5DMkIII and C100. I already know which one I'm glad I bought.

Canon C100 vs. 5D Mark III on Vimeo

Personally, I don't see enough difference in these shots to warrant the C100 for me. I need to consider if I was already going to get a 6D would that extra $4400 be warranted?

I saw a big difference in sharpness between the two. Didnt see any moire in the brick (for either camera)

I was just this morning looking over my wife's shoulder as she was wedding we shot with a 5D3 on the bride's side & a C300 on the groom's side. The biggest difference even aside from the sharpness is the dynamic range. With the C300 footage there is detail in the highlights & shadows that is missing from the 5D3 & she had to really 'dumb down' the C300 clips to get the images even remotely matching.

One of our team member just received a shipping notice on a Blackmagic Cinema camera, yes a miracle. But the graded C100 is so good that it makes wonder if I should tell her to just use the C100 plus external for work on sets. Any opinions now that we finally have very very encouraging C100 samples. BTW most of these samples are shot at 320 ISO which reduces DR compared to the base ISO of 850, it is in the manual.

Egg on my face. After numerous people confirmed the B&W bug, it turns out that it was operator error not a software bug. Unlike some cameras I previously owned, changing the LCD/EVF to B&W while in camera also alters the display in media mode. So the clips were always in color. Have to get used to the camera.

Don't worry about it Philip - it is after all good news that its not a firmware bug.

Up early awaiting a C100 delivery :-) What do you guys think of this?

Canon EOS C100 AVCHD and ProRes 4:2:2 HQ Comparison on Vimeo

I like this test!

Looking at original file downloaded from Vimeo - looks pretty good. Love the look of those bricks :)

Would love to see something shot with a flatter profile and really see what the DR can do but thanks so much to anyone that is posting this stuff.

Also, is it just me or is anyone else not really seeing much of a difference between the AVCHD and the ProRes?

"Also, is it just me or is anyone else not really seeing much of a difference between the AVCHD and the ProRes?"

Exactly! That's what impressed me so much in this latest test video.

I'm sure if you started grading the original clips heavily then the ProRes will show its benefits but for some of the fast turnaround stuff that I sometimes do the AVCHD will be just fine.

After day 1 of shooting with the C100 i really like the images I got.

Things that are driving me bonkers.. The EVF. It WOULD be okey with peaking if canon had put a decent eye cup on it. But no, its impossible to really get your eye on it.

AND the LCD.. terrible in any sort of direct light. I see why people have put Z Finders on them.

Camera is easy to use however. Im almost temped to buy it.

A lot of that wide city outdoor scenic footage is looking pretty amazing... Itching to try one of these things out.

After day 1 of shooting with the C100 i really like the images I got.

Things that are driving me bonkers.. The EVF. It WOULD be okey with peaking if canon had put a decent eye cup on it. But no, its impossible to really get your eye on it.

AND the LCD.. terrible in any sort of direct light. I see why people have put Z Finders on them.

Camera is easy to use however. Im almost temped to buy it.

You really have to tilt ypur head, unlike any head psoyion I have ever wuse with an EVF, but then the eyecup works.

I find that shooting the the EVF set to B&W makes focusing much easier. But harder to judge WB etc. really want a Z-Finder if Zacuto, who is famous for long waits on announced products, would just release that, as well as the Plazma lights.

Can anyone inform how effective the focus assist functions on the LCD are?

Does the LCD have good colour representation?

Mine arrived mid-morning but I've not had time to do anything more than take it out of the box and admire it! Did set peaking but there are a number of settings that you can play with so I'm sure I can get it how I want it. Magnify works fine on the LCD.

Build quality seems really good/better than I remember from handling a pre-launch C100 at the CVP/Canon Soho Hotel event in London a while back. EVF is, well, pretty much rubbish (but we all knew that by now). Fan is near silent but chucks out a fair breeze (you can set it on Auto so it only comes on when really needed).

Handling is superb with that grip in whatever position you want. Just charging up all three of my new Canon BP-955 batteries - so when I do get some time this weekend I can see what's this baby's capable of!

Can anyone inform how effective the focus assist functions on the LCD are?

Does the LCD have good colour representation?


The focus assist is very effective on the LCD. Like mentioned above by Andy you can tune the peaking to a number of different settings and the magnification works all the time.

The LCD is a lot like the C300, although not quite the same (smaller maybe). It doesn't work well under harsh light and isn't as accurate as id like. Although, the images I get in post look better than on the LCD.. but that is still less than ideal in the grand scheme of things. This may have something to do with the fact that I am shooting on a tweaked EOS Std profile.

Here is our first test last night with the C100!

Sauder Monte Carlo Event on Vimeo

giving up on my BMC preorder this week and picking up a c100. very excited. anyone else in NYC with a c100 yet?

Ok. So, I own a 5DmkIII and some good lenses. What's possible here that couldn't be done with my mkIII? I want to understand... (because I would have to explain it to my wife)
Bill

Ok. So, I own a 5DmkIII and some good lenses. What's possible here that couldn't be done with my mkIII? I want to understand... (because I would have to explain it to my wife)
Bill

From what I see in the posts and in the few examples out so far, Bill, consensus seems to be that it's not that the C100 blows away the image of the MKIII, but that it still wins out due to better sharpness and better dynamic range overall -- the cinema log being a great plus, too. And then of course there's the benefits of having the video camera controls w/ better audio, etc. But I'm not a MKIII owner; rather I'm an XF300 and T3i owner trying to figure out which direction to go in next... and I have a wife, too.

Right. I was about to pull the trigger on a 6D to replace my 60D which, frankly can't compete at receptions with the mkIII. But, you know how this goes, if I was gonna spend $2100 might as well spend $6500... :)

I use the 5D3s & a C300. I think that for my purposes the C100 would be as good as the C300. The images look just as good in terms of resolution & dynamic range (where the C300 makes my 5D3s look inadequate) & I don't need a broadcast ready CODEC. As it's half the price if I were buying today I would probably save my money & buy a C100 as it has a couple of additional features that I would like e.g. AWB, push AF, 15% smaller & lighter.

NIgel, have you considered selling your C300 and the Mk3 to buy a couple (or 3!) C100s? There is a lot to be said in having just one type of camera to make life easier not to mention having all the images match.

I am considering selling my camcorders (HMC150s) and MK3 to replace with C100s picking up a couple

Having said that, for the bride prep a DSLR would still probably be a good choice for portability and compactness. A C100 isnt big but a DSLR is smaller.

if i'm reading the specs list correctly... they didn't give the c100 the wft port? can someone confirm this on their camera. rather disappointing if they left that bit out

if i'm reading the specs list correctly... they didn't give the c100 the wft port? can someone confirm this on their camera. rather disappointing if they left that bit out

I can confirm they left out the WFT port and only the C300 and C500 are WFT capable. Canon had to take away some of the C300 features to make the price point low and not take sales away from the C300.

Pulse by stillmotion on Vimeo

Pulse - Behind The Scenes on Vimeo

I'm not sure what I like more, the way all that footage turned out or the subject material itself. Awesome little piece.

So I decided on a whim to buy the C100 after all. Coming from using the AF100 man it's going to take a while to get use to shooting with this new camcorder. Liking it so far though.

*One thing I notice that hasn't been mentioned is that while filming you can change the ISO in increments just like a DSLR. You are not stuck with 3 ISO/Gain settings while recording.

re Pulse.
Hugely impressive piece of work. At times the shallow DOF is a bit much for me, as i'm not sure what i'm supposed to be focussing on, and would rather see more of the image sharply. Even so the colours and the image quality are superb. I did notice some funky stuff in the motion, but that's probably the internet.

Interesting subject matter too. Thanks for posting.

NIgel, have you considered selling your C300 and the Mk3 to buy a couple (or 3!) C100s? There is a lot to be said in having just one type of camera to make life easier not to mention having all the images match.I have certainly considered it & am just about to put my C300 up for sale (anyone interested?:-)

Now I have had the opportunity to use a C100 & realise that it does do everything that the C300 can do for me & more. The first thing that stuck me is how much smaller & lighter the C100 is compared to the C300 without any compromise on build quality. The EVF has noticeably higher resolution compared to the one on the XF105 but is not as good to use because it is fixed (the XF105 extends & swivels up & down) but crucially lacks a proper eye-cup. It also lacks anywhere to fit an eye-cup. It's a shame as if you could get you eye comfortably up to the EVF then the image is fine. The LCD is decent. Not as good as the C300 but sImilar to the one on the 5D3. It is a little restricted in how you can position it but good enough.

The Canon C100 EVF is pretty good if you crank your head to the side to fit the strange eyecup to your face, not the normal head position for using an EVF. Don't bother with the LCD for hand held now, the image is pretty good, You cannot use the EVF in the same head position as you would have on an C300

been playing with it a bit, and i must have an unusually shaped head, as i don't find it terribly uncomfortable to use the evf. my forhead braces against the top handle and seem decent enough to deal with.

one thing i am wondering is if the rubber of the evf can come off in lieu of an aftermarket option

having a little bit of fun with it thus far. still on the wall about profiles. log gives a lovely blank canvas, but in hauling down those highlights it does bring down the overall exposure a decent notch

Hi,

Reading all information and looking to the samples, my question is what kind of lens is everybody using or what is adviced.
I know there are a lot of possibilities but when you are putting movies on please mention also which lens used because this wil make for certain people the choise easier.

THX
Wil

Many (like me) will use the Canon 17-55mm F2.8 IS EF-S as the main 'go to/walkabout' lens on this cam. If you buy only one lens for it, my advice is to get this one.

A full kit of lenses for me would be a tokina 11-16 f2.8 , Canon or Tamron 17-55 f2.8 (depending on budget) and a Canon 70-200.

Primes and Macro lenses are great too but imo more for effects and cinema style stuff where you want to avoid distortion at all costs or want a shallower DOF.

Thread moved (finally) from Industry News to Cinema EOS.

Chris! you're Alive! been missing you.........

Jim Martin
Filmtools.com

Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it? I am looking to upgrade into the near future and I'm thinking about getting this.

Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it? I am looking to upgrade into the near future and I'm thinking about getting this.Yes used it on 2 weddings so far. The EVF is pretty much useless for me. Taking a while getting use to where certain buttons are located. I really miss the ability do Over/Under-crank and no 60P. Besides that very happy with the image. Great improvement over my previous camera. Haven't blown the highlights badly as the other cam did. 87% a happy customer.

Has anyone used this camera yet and has anything negative to say about it.

LOL! Okay...

It doesn't have 720p50/60, it doesn't have an intervalometer, it doesn't show 'Shot Duration' whilst shooting, you can't really control the camera without the hand grip attached, only one manufacturer at present is supporting the HDMI start/stop protocol (others may follow), the EVF is a little small, the codec shows pain on scenes of high detail with fast motion, the screen won't tilt down or face front, there's no built-in mic for scratch audio unless you fit the top handle,

It's easy to poke and find fault. But a lot of us are voting with our hard-earned cash. My FS100 has paid for its self, and it's there for when I need it, but I've got a whole lot of run & gun stuff to do next year, the market's gone 1080p over 720p, I don't need slomo, and so it's only the lack of the intervalometer that sucks.

I think the biggest negative has already been outed: The C100 is just a gateway drug to the C300.

Yep, I didn't even inhale and I'm hooked..
Translation,, just ogling the C100 has only convinced me that the C300 is my next camera.

"The C100 is just a gateway drug to the C300."

to be clear, the c100 screen DOES face down, and does face forward a little bit, just barely enough i've found to be somewhat helpful for self interviews.

and the lack of a body mic can be fixed with any sub $20 laptop mic, so not really a big hassle there.

and the lack of a body mic can be fixed with any sub $20 laptop mic, so not really a big hassle there.It needs to be a battery powered mic as there is no voltage available from the mic socket. It's the same on the C300 & Canon DSLRs.

to be clear, the c100 screen DOES face down, and does face forward a little bit, just barely enough i've found to be somewhat helpful for self interviews.

Sorry Darren - hoped the 'LOL' comment would show I was scraping the bottom of the barrel to find anything to be grumpy about.

Yes, I've been hovering over the 'buy it now' button of the Rode VideoMic Pro, but it's a big wobbly phallus on my little neat camera. Your point about a cheapo $20 radio shack special is well taken. However, thanks to Chad's test, I may have to invest in the Rode.

However, the fold-back reverse angle screen thing is (may I buy you a pint over this) a little tenuous? :-D One can connect up the absolutely necessary Ninja accessory recorder, and simply spin it round to the talent to show them what we're shooting.

I'd take these little inconveniences in favour of awesome run and gun ergonomics.

But I will remain ever so grumpy over losing the intervalometer - I live in hope of a new Firmware upgrade.

a firmware update with a timelapse function and 1080 50/60p (this cameras shooting AVCHD after all) i'd jump into one.