excuse me if this is a way to asked question...hope not so much..or easy answer from you.

i have zoom H-4 recorder but to big for pockect...

i have read many times about iRivers..and lapel...

now..up to date..what will you recomend for this job?
anything new or still iRiver?
lapel wired?


please, if you don't mind sharing the models..

thanks so much and hope not inconvinience.

You can probably find the answer if you do a search for audio recorder. There are many good choices on the market today.

I use a Yamaha Pocketrack c24. It's about $150. It's very small, has 2Gb of internal memory and you can add a micro SD card as well. It has a pop out USB jack so you can transfer the files off of the internal memory, or you can also remove the Micro SD card for a faster transfer. It uses a single AAA battery that lasts for a long time.

I have heard good things about Giant Squid mics, but years ago I started using Azden EX-503 lapel mics with my mini Disc recorders, and I have continued to use them to this day. They sound decent and are only about $20. I am certainly open to suggestions on other lapel mics, but the EX-503s do sound good and you it's tough to get a good sounding lapel mic for $20.

The Zoom H1 is perfect for this situation. It's under $100 (or local equivalent) & runs all day off one AA battery. We get great results with cheap lav mics. These recorders are also useful in other situations as the built-in mics are decent quality too so you can stash the recorder anywhere near where you want to record (singer speaker etc).

These are great - I have 3 on the go - they are discontinued but you can pick em up on ebay for about £70

Olympus - WS-311M (http://www.olympus.co.uk/consumer/2581_ws-311m.htm)

And these mics do the job for me £25

Audio-Technica - Microphones, headphones, wireless microphone systems, noise-cancelling headphones & more : ATR3350 Omnidirectional Condenser Lavalier Microphone (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/9c6eca17168eef6f/index.html)

Pete

The Zoom H1 runs all day off one AA battery.

you've got better batteries than me then!

you've got better batteries than me then!A Duracell easily lasts 8+ hours. I seem to recall that there was a bad batch of H1s that drained the battery even when switched off. Zoom replaced these defective models on request.

ah I see. Do you know any way of checking if they're affected (ie serial no) or is it just try it and see?

ah I see. Do you know any way of checking if they're affected (ie serial no) or is it just try it and see?I Googled this for you. Seems like it was a year or two ago but there is a reply from a guy in the UK who had his H1 replaced Zoom H1 Battery Drain? CheesyCam (http://cheesycam.com/zoom-h1-battery-drain/) Korg are the UK distributor & where you get support SAMSON AUDIO UK :: Tech Support - Wireless Mics, Studio Equipment & PA (http://www.korguk.com/samson/support.htm)

I would second Nigel suggestion of the Zoom H1 with a lav mics. It’s small enough to fit into a pocket. I currently looking at sticking belt clip on to one of my Zooms for this very job. I bought 3 zoom for recording during the ceremony based on the advice I received here and it’s worked out well for me.

Tascam DR8 (the H1 counterpart) is what i have been using vs the H1.
H1 is too fat to fit on the pocket

this one is the best choice for this situation

hope it helps

Micing the groom is one thing. But has anyone found the best setup for brides?

Hi i'm very new to this scene, i was thinking the same thing re the bride! also i would be worried that I cant monitor the audio especially if it's in someone's pocket, has anyone experienced problems with lav mikes picking up rustling noise from clothing etc. I had considered this solutiion but eventually went for a wireless mike system.

I've only shot a couple weddings and haven't done this yet, but you could plug the headphone jack of the sound board into one of the inputs on your Zoom and that way you can record all audio that comes out of the speakers?

Micing the groom is one thing. But has anyone found the best setup for brides?

Bride voice should pickup on the grooms mic. Don't even think about trying to mic a bride.

A neat trick with the groom's lav is to position it a bit lower down on his jacket lapel..just a small amount so the distance from his mouth is a little bit further and then audio from the priest/officiant and the bride will be slightly low still but you can raise the gain a bit for that without having the groom's voice peaking into the red which it would do if the lav was right at the top of his lapel!!!

If you are brave enough to mic a bride, Gaint Squid used to make a white mic with white cable too...maybe you would have to hook the transmitter on one of the hoops inside her dress ...I haven't ever tried it of course!!! The norm at a Church wedding is just mic the groom, if the priest is going to stand right off to one side then a mic on him is needed and lastly a mic at the lectern for readings. I normally get away with two radio mics in Churches as our priest are quite happy to deliver their sermons either from the lectern or stand close to the couple.

Chris

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Agreed! It would be a brave man who would try and put a mic on a bride! Usually the lav mic is enough to pick up the vows. I also use the on cam mic as a back up

Agreed! It would be a brave man who would try and put a mic on a bride! Usually the lav mic is enough to pick up the vows. I also use the on cam mic as a back up

Agreed again! It has always puzzled me why people think the bride needs to be mic'd. She is standing right there with the groom, right?

The groom's mic can sure pick up the bride's voice and in most cases, very useable but there will always be a difference in audio quality.

I guess it really comes down to how picky one is when it comes to quality and how comfortable your bride is with you to let you mic her.

I know folks in the industry who mic their brides and never had any problem doing it. I personally think my brides won't have any problem with me micing them either because I generally have a great relationship with my clients and they always see me as a very close friend by the time I cover their wedding so micing my brides shouldn't be a big deal. I just need to find a quick and easy setup.

I have 2 zooms and they are great little recorders but - in the grooms pocket?? really? you guys must have big pockets over there.

I use olympus recorders and never had a problem - half the thickness of a zoom and 2/3 of the height, nice and slim.

Which zoom model are you referring to?

the H1....

Hello guys, before i take the plunge investing in two Zoom H1's i was wondering if there were any better/cheaper recommendations out there? They will be used in conjunction with mics mostly for wedding/corporate work. While we're at it, what mics would you recommend? Cheers.

The Yamaha C-24 is half the size of the Zoom H1 & far more pocket-friendly particularly in those rented dress suits which only have rudimentary pockets that are just about enough big enough to hold a comb. It has a handy detachable clip too which is good for fixing it to a lectern or table decoration when it's not in a pocket. The audio quality is as good as Zoom. It powers on very quickly & has 2GB internal memory which is quite sufficient for recording all day if you record to MP3. The battery lasts all day too. Yamaha Pocketrak C24 Pocket Recorder: Amazon.co.uk: Musical Instruments

+1 for the Yamaha C24. its a fantastic pocket size recorder. mine also stays in perfect sync with my cameras so that makes life even better.

The Yamaha C-24 is half the size of the Zoom H1 & far more pocket-friendly particularly in those rented dress suits which only have rudimentary pockets that are just about enough big enough to hold a comb. It has a handy detachable clip too which is good for fixing it to a lectern or table decoration when it's not in a pocket. The audio quality is as good as Zoom. It powers on very quickly & has 2GB internal memory which is quite sufficient for recording all day if you record to MP3. The battery lasts all day too. Yamaha Pocketrak C24 Pocket Recorder: Amazon.co.uk: Musical Instruments (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Yamaha-Pocketrak-C24-Pocket-Recorder/dp/B00361MZF8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354035590&sr=8-1)

+1 for the Yamaha C24. its a fantastic pocket size recorder. mine also stays in perfect sync with my cameras so that makes life even better.

Fantastic thanks guys, looks like a better alternative to the zoom, little more pricey but within my price range. Is there a 'lock' button to prevent it from being stopped in the pocket?

Yes. The on/off button can be switched to "hold".