Jeremiah Rickert
January 11th, 2012, 01:57 AM
Hey all. I have done a lot of capturing of live shows, and usually I get a 2 channel mix-down of the board feed and pipe it right into the XLR's on my camera. This time, however, I was given a thumb drive with 32 .wav files on it. (16 tracks x 2 halves of show)
I pulled them into Vegas and the mechanics of 5.1 sound panning are fairly obvious, but I'm wondering what the "philosophy" should be. I feel like there's a big-picture thing that I'm missing. The show was a mix of interviews, skits, and music. My instinct is to throw all the talking forward, the music in the middle/front and the crowd in the rears.
The 16 tracks are really 14, because the last two are mix-downs, but here is the list of what I have:
01. Wireless 1 (Host)
02. Wireless 2 (Co-Host)
03. Wireless 3 (Various)
04. Emcee/Announcer (seated in a theater box stage left)
05. Statler (seated box stage right)
06. Waldorf (seated box stage right)
07. Desk Mic (host on Wireless 1 also had a this mic on his desk)
08. Stage Mic (Front center mic used by individuals and a musician at one point)
09. Room Left (attached to light rack above audience)
10. Room Right (ditto above)
11. Cue Left (Music tracks)
12. Cue Right (Music Tracks)
13. Trumpet Left (Instrument mic)
14. Trumpet Right (Instrument mic)
15. Downmix L
16 Downmix R
Should I downmix some of these together before rendering out the AC-3 file?
I did a quick and dirty mix using stock levels and just moving the panning "dot" where I thought it should go and rendered it out. I burned a Blu-Ray right from the timeline in Vegas and tested it out on my home system. My receiver decoded the DD5.1 just fine, it sounded okay to my ears, but the surrounds were a little soft. THEN we had a cast/crew viewing of the rough-cut and I brought my Blu-Ray player and the disc and connected to through HDMI to the host's TV, but he didn't have a sound system just right into the TV. There was crackling that sounded like clipping coming out of the TV speakers for several spots in the show that I didn't hear in my home test. That's why I think there's some big picture thing that I'm missing.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks!!
JR
I pulled them into Vegas and the mechanics of 5.1 sound panning are fairly obvious, but I'm wondering what the "philosophy" should be. I feel like there's a big-picture thing that I'm missing. The show was a mix of interviews, skits, and music. My instinct is to throw all the talking forward, the music in the middle/front and the crowd in the rears.
The 16 tracks are really 14, because the last two are mix-downs, but here is the list of what I have:
01. Wireless 1 (Host)
02. Wireless 2 (Co-Host)
03. Wireless 3 (Various)
04. Emcee/Announcer (seated in a theater box stage left)
05. Statler (seated box stage right)
06. Waldorf (seated box stage right)
07. Desk Mic (host on Wireless 1 also had a this mic on his desk)
08. Stage Mic (Front center mic used by individuals and a musician at one point)
09. Room Left (attached to light rack above audience)
10. Room Right (ditto above)
11. Cue Left (Music tracks)
12. Cue Right (Music Tracks)
13. Trumpet Left (Instrument mic)
14. Trumpet Right (Instrument mic)
15. Downmix L
16 Downmix R
Should I downmix some of these together before rendering out the AC-3 file?
I did a quick and dirty mix using stock levels and just moving the panning "dot" where I thought it should go and rendered it out. I burned a Blu-Ray right from the timeline in Vegas and tested it out on my home system. My receiver decoded the DD5.1 just fine, it sounded okay to my ears, but the surrounds were a little soft. THEN we had a cast/crew viewing of the rough-cut and I brought my Blu-Ray player and the disc and connected to through HDMI to the host's TV, but he didn't have a sound system just right into the TV. There was crackling that sounded like clipping coming out of the TV speakers for several spots in the show that I didn't hear in my home test. That's why I think there's some big picture thing that I'm missing.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks!!
JR