Geoffrey Cox
December 9th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Hi,
An enquiry recently asked about the recording quality of the Roland R-26 compared to the Sony D-50. Guy from Videoguys kindly offered to send an R-26 to any D-50 owners to test and so I volunteered and here are my results. Caveat: this is not a proper review of the R-26, just a comparison.
For those who don't know, the R-26 has both X-Y and stereo Omni internal mics, a plug-in mic input (mini-jack) and XLR inputs. Maximum 6 channels can be recorded simultaneously, mixed to stereo or as separate tracks. The D-50 has X-Y internal mics and a plug-in input only
Method: Tested the internal mics, plug-in mic (VMP) and XLR inputs (top quality spaced DPA 4006 pair) in a large indoor, very high roofed noisy space and a dead studio environment. Recorded voice and wooden chimes in studio space. Where possible I tried to keep all things equal especially gain levels but inevitably these were not scientifically accurate tests but qualitative ones. All recordings 48K 24bit. Listening was done in an acoustically treated environment over Genelec speakers.
Results
1) Noisy ambient recordings
R-26 X-Y pair - sounds good, clear and balanced image
D-50 X-Y pair - very similar, image slightly more solid
R-26 Omnis - sounds good but with subtle difference, more ambience as expected, lower frequencies a little stronger, warmer sound.
R-26 X-Y + Omnis - richer, fuller sound and well balanced image. Definitely the best mode for this kind of recording.
R-26 Plug-in mic: VMP - relatively thin sound
D-50 Plug-in mic: VMP - much richer and warmer sound, suggesting better pre-amp
R-26 XLR: DPA pair - these are very good mics for those not familiar (c£1000 each in the UK); excellent sound suggesting good preamps (D50 does not have XLRs)
2) Dead studio environment
R-26 X-Y - decent sound but noticeably noisy!
D-50 X-Y - much less noisy with more balanced / natural sound.
R-26 Omnis - much better, less noise, warmer sound. Still not as good as D-50 X-Y
R-26 Plug-in: VPM - OK but lacks detail
D-50 Plug-in: VMP - warmer, more detail
R-26 XLR: DPA pair - excellent sound, little noise suggesting quiet and good quality preamps though DPAs are very quiet in and high gain.
Finally tested internal mics of both machines with gains turned full up confirming the higher noise of the R-26 internal mic preamps but at high levels the D-50 comes much closer, though still lower than the noise level of the R-26.
So overall the D-50 has cleaner and warmer internal mics and noticeably better plug-in mic preamps. But the XLR inputs on the R-26 seem pretty good. The combination of the X-Y and Omnis in the R-26 are also pretty good for ambient location recordings but are a bit noisy in quiet environments.
Other things: the R-26 logs a helpful text file along with each recording with info on what inputs are used. Build quality is OK but plastic compared with the metal of the D-50 and thus picks up more handling noise. Battery life of R-26 looks like it will be a lot less than the D-50, though the latter is phenomenal.
Final conclusion: the R-26 is a very versatile and useful machine and great for ambient recordings other than in very quiet spaces. XLR inputs seem very good. Plug-in input less good. D-50 has better quality internal and plug-in inputs and much better build quality. But then, in the UK the R-26 is c£350 and the D-50, c£450.
I have recordings if anyone might want to hear them.
Geoff
An enquiry recently asked about the recording quality of the Roland R-26 compared to the Sony D-50. Guy from Videoguys kindly offered to send an R-26 to any D-50 owners to test and so I volunteered and here are my results. Caveat: this is not a proper review of the R-26, just a comparison.
For those who don't know, the R-26 has both X-Y and stereo Omni internal mics, a plug-in mic input (mini-jack) and XLR inputs. Maximum 6 channels can be recorded simultaneously, mixed to stereo or as separate tracks. The D-50 has X-Y internal mics and a plug-in input only
Method: Tested the internal mics, plug-in mic (VMP) and XLR inputs (top quality spaced DPA 4006 pair) in a large indoor, very high roofed noisy space and a dead studio environment. Recorded voice and wooden chimes in studio space. Where possible I tried to keep all things equal especially gain levels but inevitably these were not scientifically accurate tests but qualitative ones. All recordings 48K 24bit. Listening was done in an acoustically treated environment over Genelec speakers.
Results
1) Noisy ambient recordings
R-26 X-Y pair - sounds good, clear and balanced image
D-50 X-Y pair - very similar, image slightly more solid
R-26 Omnis - sounds good but with subtle difference, more ambience as expected, lower frequencies a little stronger, warmer sound.
R-26 X-Y + Omnis - richer, fuller sound and well balanced image. Definitely the best mode for this kind of recording.
R-26 Plug-in mic: VMP - relatively thin sound
D-50 Plug-in mic: VMP - much richer and warmer sound, suggesting better pre-amp
R-26 XLR: DPA pair - these are very good mics for those not familiar (c£1000 each in the UK); excellent sound suggesting good preamps (D50 does not have XLRs)
2) Dead studio environment
R-26 X-Y - decent sound but noticeably noisy!
D-50 X-Y - much less noisy with more balanced / natural sound.
R-26 Omnis - much better, less noise, warmer sound. Still not as good as D-50 X-Y
R-26 Plug-in: VPM - OK but lacks detail
D-50 Plug-in: VMP - warmer, more detail
R-26 XLR: DPA pair - excellent sound, little noise suggesting quiet and good quality preamps though DPAs are very quiet in and high gain.
Finally tested internal mics of both machines with gains turned full up confirming the higher noise of the R-26 internal mic preamps but at high levels the D-50 comes much closer, though still lower than the noise level of the R-26.
So overall the D-50 has cleaner and warmer internal mics and noticeably better plug-in mic preamps. But the XLR inputs on the R-26 seem pretty good. The combination of the X-Y and Omnis in the R-26 are also pretty good for ambient location recordings but are a bit noisy in quiet environments.
Other things: the R-26 logs a helpful text file along with each recording with info on what inputs are used. Build quality is OK but plastic compared with the metal of the D-50 and thus picks up more handling noise. Battery life of R-26 looks like it will be a lot less than the D-50, though the latter is phenomenal.
Final conclusion: the R-26 is a very versatile and useful machine and great for ambient recordings other than in very quiet spaces. XLR inputs seem very good. Plug-in input less good. D-50 has better quality internal and plug-in inputs and much better build quality. But then, in the UK the R-26 is c£350 and the D-50, c£450.
I have recordings if anyone might want to hear them.
Geoff