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Johnnie Caraballo
December 8th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Hello,
Going to be in the Market for another Camcorder.
Looks like the NX5U/AX2000 have been around for a while.

Matter of fact, most of the cameras on Sony's site are kinda getting long in the tooth.

Any place I can go to read up on any rumors or possible info on new products coming out soon?

I would hate to buy and then 2 months later Sony releases better and cheaper cams.

Thanks for your time.

Les Wilson
December 8th, 2011, 10:41 AM
Panasonic is shipping it's nab announced cameras that may interest you. It's not what u asked but related.

Johnnie Caraballo
December 8th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Les,
Thanks for that info.

If you had $7,500 to spend (Wedding Events - Low Light is critical) what camera(s) would you consider and why?

I had the AX2000 but was robbed this past weekend. I loved the camera. Great lens that got down to 1.6f for indoor receptions. I was thinking about getting it again but then was thinking it might be updated soon - or maybe I should look at another brand?

Thank you for your time.

Les Wilson
December 8th, 2011, 06:59 PM
While I do some events and understand the camera features that *I think* are good for event videography, I'm reluctant to map that onto Weddings as I just don't do them. I have a 3-chip ENG and a DSLR to do the various things I do as a one person outfit. They are flexible and cover a lot of ground. You may not need flexibility, you may need equipment more geared toward weddings. I will say that DSLRs are a pain for events. Especially the ones that stop recording every 12 minutes. YMMV

David Wayne Groves
December 9th, 2011, 03:49 PM
I would grab a NX5U to replace your AX2000, the price difference is very small and the gains are well worth it...I own both and you can't go wrong going with the NX5U...

Jerry Porter
December 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM
For just a little more you could pick up an EX3 from B&H. With the current rebate they are coming in at 7,800. There also seems to be some pretty good deals on used 1's and 3's on here lately. Probably guys gong to the new F3.

Steve Minnick
January 5th, 2012, 11:45 PM
I was wondering the same about the NX5...it's out of stock at B and H Photo/video. Wondering if something new is coming from Sony around the corner.

haven't heard anything though with regard to rumors...even for NAB.

anybody with some news?

Tom Hardwick
January 6th, 2012, 04:03 AM
Well I'd be very surprised to hear the NX5 was to be dropped. Generally Sony cams in this category have a 4 year lifespan or so (see the FX1/Z1), though this might well be reduced for the HDV tape based Z5, Z7 and V1. When the NX5's lined up against the Canon and Panasonic opposition its performance:price ratio looks very healthy indeed.

tom.

Kyle Root
January 7th, 2012, 07:43 AM
I'd love to know if there is a site similar to Nikon Rumors for Sony. lol

I've had my NX5 for almost 12 months now and still love it.

From my perspective the only thing I would want changed really woud be whatever it takes to take it to 4:2:2, (or better even) like the Canon XF series.

I simply love the NX5s ability to dual record to the FMU and SD cards at the same time. This is truly the best feature for wedding videographers because you get an instant backup of a once in a life time event that you can't reshoot! Plus SD cards are cheap!

John Knight
January 7th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Philip Johnston from HD Warrior has made the following prediction for 2012 - he seems to know his stuff... and I would tend to agree with this one...

"Sony : I predict a NX7 camcorder with interchangeable lenses, 50MB/s, 4:2:2 and once again 10bit. This camera may take on the SxS media and be a direct competitor to the Panasonic HPX250 and Canons XF305"

I'm not fussed on interchangable lens or SxS - but an NX5 with 50MB/s, 4:2:2 and 1080/50p is what I want!

Glen Vandermolen
January 7th, 2012, 11:14 PM
I believe all of Sony's NEX/NXCAMs cameras use the AVCHD codec. That means, for now, a maximum bit rate of 28mbps in 1080/60P. And 4:2:0, 8-bit native recording onto SDHC cards.
If Sony makes a 50mbps, 4:2:2 NX5 replacement camera, wouldn't that make it an XDCAM? I would think the competition for the HPX250 and XF305 will come from the EX1/3 line, recording onto SxS cards. An EX5, perhaps.

Justin Hewitt
January 8th, 2012, 04:38 AM
I was hoping for a firmware update to the NX5 that might improve the wandering focus issue with AUTO mode and perhaps trick up the feature list eg Histogram ...
I see the NX7 is getting one Q1 this year according to several sites ....
I'm not expecting it ... but it would be nice .....

Cristian Adrian Olariu
January 8th, 2012, 06:18 AM
I'd love to know if there is a site similar to Nikon Rumors for Sony. lol

Yes, there it is: sonyalpharumors | Home (http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/)

Ron Evans
January 8th, 2012, 08:34 AM
I got my NX5U when they first came out. My other cams are CX700, XR500 and SR11. The sensors on the NX5U are clearly SR11 vintage compared to the XR500 or CX700 so my main wish is lower noise sensors like the consumer cams. Next would be some of the consumer cam features like spot focus in particular.

I think the Panasonic AG 160 is now a better camera so Sony may add some improvements to NX5U by firmware or introduce a new model to compete.

Ron Evans

John Knight
January 8th, 2012, 03:54 PM
I see the NX7 is getting one Q1 this year according to several sites .....

Can you post links?

John Knight
January 18th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Both my Sony resellers are having time-limited specials on current models, including the NX5... I'm predicting a new model on the way to be announced mid-March in the leadup to NAB! :)

Ron Evans
January 18th, 2012, 06:04 PM
Well there is a new CX760 so I maybe a new NX76.. to match. I have both CX700 and NX5U and have several wishes for a replacement or another model in the lineup. The consumer cameras have less noise and that is something I would like improved in the NX5U, as I have said before spot focus etc would be nice too. A model to compete with the Canon XF lineup would also be good too especially if it was a larger sensor model like a 1/2" single sensor NX with the consumer features . One can wish...

Ron Evans

Johnnie Caraballo
March 16th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Both my Sony resellers are having time-limited specials on current models, including the NX5... I'm predicting a new model on the way to be announced mid-March in the leadup to NAB! :)

I'm holding this to you! If not - you wil have to eat your socks : ) ~

Ray Turcotte
March 18th, 2012, 02:59 AM
Sonys official announcement site is here:

Sony Global - News Release (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/index.html)

on Jan 23 2012 Sony Announced

Sony Global - News Releases - Sony Develops Next-generation Back-Illuminated CMOS Image Sensor to Embody the Continuous Evolution of the Camera (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201201/12-009E/index.html)

Ron Evans
March 18th, 2012, 09:57 AM
Yes I saw that too. My initial response was cell phones, Cybershot and tablet cameras. Will be interesting to see what comes out in the next few months as the last release quoted was August.

Ron Evans

John Knight
March 25th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Ohhhhh ohhhhh this looks good!

Sony Global - Sony Develops "IPELA Engine", Capable of an Industry-First 130db Wide Dynamic Range in Full HD Quality (http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201203/12-037E/index.html)

Heath McKnight
March 28th, 2012, 09:39 AM
The problem with a potential NX5u replacement would be, given Sony's history, an announcement at NAB, but it won't ship until late summer, early fall. I need a camera now, but would hate to have to wait. Panasonic, JVC and Canon's similar offerings are nice, but I've been on Sony cameras for over 7 years now, and I'm familiar with the menus, etc. the NX70u looks good, but I think it lacks an ND filter, as does the FS100.

Heath

Tom Hardwick
March 28th, 2012, 09:58 AM
Any camera that appears to lack an ND filter still has them Heath, but I know what you mean - you're after controllable ND.

John Knight
March 29th, 2012, 10:55 PM
HD Warrior Blog Archiv Our man in NAB 2012 (http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2012/03/28/our-man-in-nab-2012/)

"Sony are due to update the EX range of cameras and the NX-5 is looking tired...."