View Full Version : Memory Card Indicator Please Help


Tariq Peter
October 18th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Hi All,

I have been using my DSLR for a few weeks now and all has been good, my first wedding is in 2 days time and today I am seeing a five level indicator on the right hand side of my LCD screen which keeps reaching the maximum and shooting just stops. The cards I have are the Transcend 32GB SDHC Class 10 memory cards, I have formatted the cards but as soon as I start to record again they stop and I see the indicator. I just don't know what to do as I have purchased 6 of these.

The indicator is on page 164 of the manual. I am recording at 1920 50fps with image set to Raw..

Please Help

Colin Rowe
October 18th, 2011, 04:16 PM
Have you got Magic Lantern running high bitrates ?
Are the cards genuine ?
Before you use any card on a paying gig, record them to full and playback to make sure they are all ok.
Better to stick to 16gb cards, all your eggs in one basket and all that. If a 32gb card fails, your going to lose twice as much footage
I only ever use 16gb Transcends, never missed a beat in any of my cams. (EX1, 550D, TM900 and HX9)
If your using DSLRs, make sure you always have 2 cams covering all the essential shots.
Do you mean 1080/50i ?
The raw setting has no effect on video recording

Tariq Peter
October 18th, 2011, 09:57 PM
Hi,

I don't have Magic installed and purchased the cards from Amazon. The cards had great reviews and were also suggested to me in this forum. 16GB cards have the same write speed so I may get the same error.
1920x1080@50FPS. I can't afford a two dslr setup yet but I have spent over 1.5k purchasing good quality highly recomended hardware. Why can't things just work!

Murray Christian
October 19th, 2011, 02:11 AM
So wait, every single one of these cards does this?
What other card have you been using?

I would find someone with a similar camera and try them in there just to make sure it's not yours that they don't get along with.

Cristian Adrian Olariu
October 19th, 2011, 02:28 AM
What camera do you have? There is no 1920x1080@50fps on Canon line of cameras.

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 03:31 AM
Sorry 1280x720@50fps t3i 600D Shutter Speed 100.

James Donnelly
October 19th, 2011, 04:04 AM
Hi,

I don't have Magic installed and purchased the cards from Amazon. The cards had great reviews and were also suggested to me in this forum. 16GB cards have the same write speed so I may get the same error.
1920x1080@50FPS. I can't afford a two dslr setup yet but I have spent over 1.5k purchasing good quality highly recomended hardware. Why can't things just work!

My original post was un-helpful, so I've removed it.

Tariq, could you try this software out to test your cards and let us know the results:

http://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/bo/downloads/h2testw_1.4.zip

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 04:23 AM
Sorry 1280x720@50fps t3i 600D Shutter Speed 100.
Keep the shutter speed at 50

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 04:33 AM
If I am shooting at 50fps should I not be using the 180 degree rule meaning the shutter speed should be 100?

Shooting video with a DSLR on Vimeo Video School (http://vimeo.com/videoschool/lesson/15/shooting-video-with-a-dslr)

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 04:34 AM
My original post was un-helpful, so I've removed it.

Tariq, could you try this software out to test your cards and let us know the results:

http://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/bo/downloads/h2testw_1.4.zip

Sure, I just need to get my hands on a PC as I use a MAC. Thanks for this.

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 04:50 AM
If I am shooting at 50fps should I not be using the 180 degree rule meaning the shutter speed should be 100?

Shooting video with a DSLR on Vimeo Video School (http://vimeo.com/videoschool/lesson/15/shooting-video-with-a-dslr)
Forget all the figures, by shooting at 100 you are reducing the incoming light, I sometimes use 100 on my little TM900 in really bright conditions, and 25 in difficult light, so long as there is not to much movement. Try different settings on your camera to see what works. But 50 is the generally accepted in PAL

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 05:36 AM
What scares me is I will find out in post what the footage actually looks like. I am shooting a wedding so movement wise I have dancing, and that’s about it. The rest is just people sitting down eating and talking. If I shoot using 1/50 that should good for low light. All these figures that are out scare me a little as I am new to DSLRs but in general would you say

50p = 1/50 basic shooting
50p = 1/100 lots of motion like dancing and sports ?

James Donnelly
October 19th, 2011, 05:56 AM
Sure, I just need to get my hands on a PC as I use a MAC. Thanks for this.

Sigh.

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Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 06:23 AM
Great, I will try this tonight. Is it worth doing a low level format on all the cards?

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 07:28 AM
What scares me is I will find out in post what the footage actually looks like. I am shooting a wedding so movement wise I have dancing, and that’s about it. The rest is just people sitting down eating and talking. If I shoot using 1/50 that should good for low light. All these figures that are out scare me a little as I am new to DSLRs but in general would you say

50p = 1/50 basic shooting
50p = 1/100 lots of motion like dancing and sports ?
1/50, full stop. Dancing does not equate to a lot of motion. Think about your video cameras, what is the shutter speed default!!!!!!!!!!!

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 07:34 AM
Great, I will try this tonight. Is it worth doing a low level format on all the cards?
Just format (IN THE CAMERA), and as mentioned earlier, try the cards in a different camera or video camera. Its unlikely there are all duff. If none of them work in your DSLR, it would look like a camera fault

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 07:41 AM
The XHA1 default shutter speed at 25p is 1/25th and the footage is choppy. I need to change it to TV mode and increase it to 1/50 to make it watchable.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/progressive_video.do

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 07:43 AM
Just format (IN THE CAMERA), and as mentioned earlier, try the cards in a different camera or video camera. Its unlikely there are all duff. If none of them work in your DSLR, it would look like a camera fault

Yes but in the Camera there is an option to format and low level format so I will go with the low level format. It takes longer but I think its better to do that.

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 07:50 AM
The XHA1 default shutter speed at 25p is 1/25th and the footage is choppy. I need to change it to TV mode and increase it to 1/50 to make it watchable.

Canon Professional Network - 25F Progressive video: the cinema show (http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/technical/progressive_video.do)
Last time. 1/50 and thats all there is to it

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 07:51 AM
Yes but in the Camera there is an option to format and low level format so I will go with the low level format. It takes longer but I think its better to do that.
It wont make a lot of difference, but try it if you want. Have you tried all the cards in the camera yet???

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 08:00 AM
Not at home at the moment but I will later. 1/50 "last time" is a bit harsh, I must say you are going against what pretty much every forum, YouTube video and piece of advice I have ever been given. I would love to hear other forum members’ thoughts on this also.

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 08:22 AM
Sorry Tariq, didnt mean to appear harsh, its just that you dont seem to willing to try anything for yourself. I have never shot 25p, and never will, simply because of the jerky nature of the footage. I have never used any shutter speed other than 1/50, for anything other than light control. Its simple, try shooting some footage, at various shutter speeds, then play it back, you will soon see for yourself what works, and what doesn't. The bottom line is, you need to know your equipments performance capabilities inside out. The only way to is to shoot, shoot, shoot, then tweak to your own preferences. I will admit, I am not a great fan of using DSLRs for wedding shoots, I did try for a year or so, but the DSLRs were, and still are, used as B cams only. For me they added far to much extra work in a wedding situation. And I was never taken with there relatively low resolution, and aliasing and moire problems. But hey, each to his own.

Tariq Peter
October 19th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Hi.

Thanks for your comments, I am willing to try but DSLRs and 50fps is a new concept for me. The footage is fine shooting at 50fps@1/50 or at 50fps@100fps I don't see a major differnce. What I really don't want to do is shoot knowing that my camera is set up correctly using advice from experts. e.g DSLR video & shutter speed - Digital Grin Photography Forum (http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=157509)

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 09:02 AM
Like I said Tariq, try it, and satisfy yourself that it is doing exactly what you want it to do. When it is just so, leave it at that and you can shoot with confidence.
Good luck with the wedding by the way

Colin Rowe
October 19th, 2011, 09:19 AM
Check this out Tariq, it may help. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-xdcam-ex-cinealta/142635-ex1-should-i-shoot-1280-x-720-50p.html
Lots of different opinions, as I say, the best way is to try out all settings and see which one works for you.
Good luck.

Bruce Foreman
October 20th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Hi All,

my first wedding is in 2 days time and today I am seeing a five level indicator on the right hand side of my LCD screen which keeps reaching the maximum and shooting just stops. The cards I have are the Transcend 32GB SDHC Class 10 memory cards, I have formatted the cards but as soon as I start to record again they stop and I see the indicator. I just don't know what to do as I have purchased 6 of these.

Please Help

Put all of them aside until you can return them or sell them. What you are seeing is the "buffer bar", it appears, fills up, and shuts your recording process down because the card media cannot keep up with the camera.

Either you got some bad cards or they are "counterfeit" (which I doubt because Transcend is not a topnotch brand that gets counterfeited).

Do not even think of using those on a wedding, you are flirting with disaster.

Spend the money to get several SanDisk media FROM A TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE (SanDisk is probably the most counterfeited brand, which should tell you something), format them in camera and test them thoroughly.

But don't "dink around" with those Transcend cards anymore. (Watch all the Transcend "True Believers" argue with me here).

Bruce Foreman
October 20th, 2011, 08:25 PM
Not at home at the moment but I will later. 1/50 "last time" is a bit harsh, I must say you are going against what pretty much every forum, YouTube video and piece of advice I have ever been given. I would love to hear other forum members’ thoughts on this also.

YouTube video is about the last place I would trust for knowledgeable advice, and on the "forums" you have a bunch of people "echoing" every piece of bad advice folks have tossed out there.

Pay attention to what Colin Rowe is trying to share with you.

Kin Lau
October 21st, 2011, 06:42 AM
Put all of them aside until you can return them or sell them. What you are seeing is the "buffer bar", it appears, fills up, and shuts your recording process down because the card media cannot keep up with the camera.

Either you got some bad cards or they are "counterfeit" (which I doubt because Transcend is not a topnotch brand that gets counterfeited).

Do not even think of using those on a wedding, you are flirting with disaster.

Compatibility is still a problem with certain cards. I have a Class 10 Patriot SDHC that I have quite a bit of trouble with in my 600D/T3i but works perfectly in my GH13 and GH2.I have Class 4, 6 and 10 cards from about 6 other different brands and they all work well with all my cameras except for the Patriot.

On the other hand, several of the cards that work well in my cameras aren't even recognized in my H4N.

But that last line is very true.... don't use them for a wedding.