Tom Morrow
October 7th, 2011, 01:27 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, it seems the limiter in the Tascam DR-05 recorder is digital rather than analog, and therefore is not any help in avoiding clipping. E.g. If a 1dbFS signal causes clipping without limiting, it will also cause clipping when limiting is turned on, because the clipping happens in the A->D conversion before the digital limiting. (Edit: Read on to discover that I later concluded there can be some use to digital limiting)
I did a quick test to verify this... I played a song from my ipod into the dr-05 through an 1/8" cable. I had the volume adjusted to a level that just barely caused the Peak LED to flash (Aside: Beware that the input on the DR-05 does not accept true line level signals; its input clips below consumer-line level). Turning on the limiting function did not seem to reduce the amount of time the Peak LED flashed.
So is Tascam's marketing message:
TASCAM handheld recorders have a limiter during recording,
so that sudden loud sounds won’t be distorted.
totally incorrect? I could see advertising the limiter as a compressor to smooth out vocals or something, but unless I'm mistaken a digital limiter cannot have that effect, unless implemented with a higher-dynamic-range A->D converter before the limiting which the DR-05 clearly doesn't have.
At any rate if they wanted this to be a legitimate feature they should publish the limiting ratio (e.g. 10:1) and the level at which it engages. They don't so I'll have to assume this is a fantasy feature.
I don't mean to be downbeat on the DR-05; I think it's the best $100 that could be spent and quite competitive with the H4N.
I did a quick test to verify this... I played a song from my ipod into the dr-05 through an 1/8" cable. I had the volume adjusted to a level that just barely caused the Peak LED to flash (Aside: Beware that the input on the DR-05 does not accept true line level signals; its input clips below consumer-line level). Turning on the limiting function did not seem to reduce the amount of time the Peak LED flashed.
So is Tascam's marketing message:
TASCAM handheld recorders have a limiter during recording,
so that sudden loud sounds won’t be distorted.
totally incorrect? I could see advertising the limiter as a compressor to smooth out vocals or something, but unless I'm mistaken a digital limiter cannot have that effect, unless implemented with a higher-dynamic-range A->D converter before the limiting which the DR-05 clearly doesn't have.
At any rate if they wanted this to be a legitimate feature they should publish the limiting ratio (e.g. 10:1) and the level at which it engages. They don't so I'll have to assume this is a fantasy feature.
I don't mean to be downbeat on the DR-05; I think it's the best $100 that could be spent and quite competitive with the H4N.