View Full Version : How important is your business name?


Bill Edmunds
September 25th, 2011, 09:24 AM
Simple question, really. Is there such a thing as a 'better' name for a wedding video business? Is using your own name (John Doe Wedding Films) preferable to something like "Artistic Memories" or something?

I'm thinking of re-branding my business. My old/current name is Excalibur Productions. I've been thinking of either Bill Emunds Wedding Films or Gulf Road Films. Thoughts?

Don Bloom
September 25th, 2011, 09:40 AM
I've been running under my own name for all the years I've been self employed which is since 1971. As a still photog and video guy I've never changed but back in the day as a freelancer people knew MY name so it just made sense to stay with my name for my business.
I know a lot of guys that have more business sounding names for their business but they also have more than just themselves shooting. They might have 3,4,5 or more guys shooting on any given weekend. For me, I never wanted that so I just stayed with my name. As a solo operator, it becomes personal choice I guess.

Long Truong
September 25th, 2011, 10:28 AM
That's a really good question Bill. I've been thinking about starting a new brand and still hesitating what name to give it. Since I have an obvious asian name, I'm wondering how well this would sound to non-asian clients in general as it might be more difficult for them to pronounce and remember - and would it actually affect my business overall?

If I was a world renowned filmmaker, I don't think that'll be a problem but right now, I guess I just want to find a name that's catchy and easy for people to remember, but still haven't found anything that really represents me yet.

Jeff Harper
September 25th, 2011, 10:57 AM
I would not concentrate on a great name for a great name's sake, but instead think about the web and search engines when coming up with a name. That is if getting on the first page of search results is important to you. If not, then just come up with a name that reflects your business model and video style. If you are cinematic, films in the name is good. If you are conventional video, video is better.

I personally dislike frilly or sentimental sounding names, but that is me.

"Edmund's New Hampshire Wedding Video" would be nice, though a bit long.

Michael Johnston
September 25th, 2011, 11:33 AM
My business name for my full production business is Scioto Valley Productions but I've branded my wedding side of the business is branded SVPweddings.com because we offer low cost affordable Videography and photography which is what you think of when you see a business branded as a dot com business. Personally, I don't think "Films" should be in your business title unless you are shooting on DSLR's. Just seems misleading.

I am, however, rebranding my business to SVP Media Group because most people can't pronounce Scioto correctly. Already registered the name, just need to actually rebrand everything.

Corey Graham
September 25th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Personally, I don't think "Films" should be in your business title unless you are shooting on DSLR's. Just seems misleading.

Haha, I take it one step further. I don't think "films" should be in your name unless you're shooting . . . film. Call me crazy.

Jeff Harper
September 25th, 2011, 12:22 PM
Using films in a name is simply a marketing stategy, IMO. DSLRs are no more film than video cameras are. As soon as I see films in a name I think creative or cinema. This is how I think the public would generally see it as well, which is what is important. How videographers interpret things is not nearly as important as how potential customers see it.

On the other hand, there are Hollywood film studios that use "pictures" in their name but they don't shoot photos for a living either. Touchstone Pictures, etc. I say, who cares? It's all nonsense anyway.

Michael Johnston
September 25th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Jeff,

You're right, films generally makes you think of cinema like. That's why I made the comment about DSLR's. They at least produce a cinema like image. I don't think the term fits for a business running around shooting on standard cameras that don't give that look. In that case, I think video(s) is a more appropriate term. I know it's about marketing but if you label yourself as films and can't produce that type of look, it won't be long before your reputation gets to be the guy with a cool name but that brides should stay away from. You'd be surprised how fast that negative word of mouth advertising can spread amongst brides.

At my first bridal show, it didn't take long before I knew (by listening to brides comments) who the guy was with the fancy booth and cool name that most were saying to stay away from because his videos were awful. The fanciest gear and coolest name means nothing if you can't deliver the high quality video the bride expects. Rest assured, her impression of the video will be communicated to all her single friends who will tell all their friends getting married and so on and so on.

Jeff Harper
September 25th, 2011, 01:38 PM
I do know what you mean Michael, of course. However, there are those who shoot with regular video cameras that do produce film like videos, and I think also film can infer more of a storytelling approach, which is another thing I think of with the term.

I also understand what you mean about those that abuse terms and jargon to pull in unsuspecting folks. Some guys want to think of themselves as artistic and barely know how to turn their cameras on!

Danny O'Neill
September 25th, 2011, 01:53 PM
There is a story as to why we went with Mintyslippers but one of the reasons we went with it was its memorable. How many times do you walk away from a wedding and say to your other shooter "What was that photographers name again?". For some reason, us humans have trouble remembering names... well, most do. And given most photogs go by their real name it adds to the pain. Mintyslippers also stands out in search results.

We too opted to avoid the sentimental name. Partly because when we started the plan was to do more than weddings so didnt want to get stuck.

You also have to think long term. What if you expand and get additional shooters. The value of the business is then in your name, your the one they want to shoot your wedding. Good in one way as you can possibly charge more for you and less for your B-crew. Bad in that... well, everyone will want you.

Mintyslippers is a brand that covers many shooters. We identify myself and Julie as the key people and introduce more as they come along.

But a brand name is only around 10% of you, your brand story is the real catch.

Chris Harding
September 25th, 2011, 06:52 PM
Hey Bill

I really do like the personalised idea rather than some obscure name... Bill Edmunds denotes that personal touch.... technically of course, neither video cameras or DSLR can produce a wedding film!! Films are shot on film !!! But if you are high end there is no reason not to use the terminology wedding film .... I guess it depends on what brides see wedding shoots as in your area??? The thing you need to figure out is what the average bride will type into Google!!!

Wedding videos, wedding films, wedding dvds, wedding videography .... Seriously stay with the personal touch but for goodness sake don't get too soppy!! "Rambling Roses Wedding Videos" screams of Uncle Ted who has decided to use his little camcorder to make some money!!!

Chris

Michael Simons
September 26th, 2011, 04:25 AM
I use my own name and still send out 3 freelance shooters ( I charge less for them). Make sure your name tells what you offer. I shoot DSLR but since I don't shoot film, I don't call myself a filmmaker. I also wouldn't just say "Bill Edmunds Productions" because what do you produce? A friend of mine has a company called "Contemporary Image" and I always ask him, "what does that mean, what do you do"?

"Bill Edmunds Video Productions" tells the story.

Corey Graham
September 26th, 2011, 04:28 AM
I like the personal vibe that is given using your name. I want to communicate "craftsman," not "company." Of course, I have no intention of sending out multiple crews or anything like that -- I work alone.

Katie Fasel
September 26th, 2011, 06:50 AM
There is a story as to why we went with Mintyslippers but one of the reasons we went with it was its memorable. How many times do you walk away from a wedding and say to your other shooter "What was that photographers name again?". For some reason, us humans have trouble remembering names... well, most do. And given most photogs go by their real name it adds to the pain. Mintyslippers also stands out in search results.


I agree, a name like that is much more memorable...same with ours, although ours has sevaral points to it. Our videography biz is called "Forever Fossilized." Not only is it memorable for people, but it's a play on our last name as well (pronounced "fossil") , and the word fossilized suggests something forever. Just lucky it all works that way I guess :-) I have to thank the maid of honor at our own wedding for coming up with that line though -- may your love be "forever Fasel-ized."

Roger Van Duyn
September 26th, 2011, 07:29 AM
Since my name isn't spelled like it's pronounced, I thought it would be better to use something easier to spell, and pronounce for the name of my business. Plus, with a last name that's two separate words, computers have always had a tendency to lose it in their databases. Sometimes my info would come up filed under the letter V, sometimes under the letter D. Sometimes the poor clerk trying to find me in their computer just didn't have any luck at all.

My bank still sends me correspondence for one of my accounts "Dear Mr. Duyn..." even though the data has been corrected by them numerous times, and is correct in other accounts from that very same bank.

Plus, the name of my company is probably easier to remember than my name anyway. The words even rhyme, plus they have a positive connotation.

There are a lot of variables when it comes to a good name. And then there's the whole separate matter of keeping a good reputation for whatever name you come up with for your business.

And there's always the unexpected to deal with. Suppose the original poster happens to be a big (but still nice) guy, and decided to name his business "Big Bill's Video" Some people might unconsciously think "big bills" as in "too expensive for me..."

Plus, changing the name of your business might be inconvenient for your present client base. Weigh the various alternatives very carefully.

Personally, I think Excalibur sounds classy, connotes Royalty.

Chris Harding
September 26th, 2011, 08:18 AM
Actually since Corey has now posted I think you cannot do better than what he has!!

Seriously "Bill Edmunds Weddings" really says it all ..it's personalised and it depicts your business perfectly without slotting you into a gendre. If you shoot cinematic wedding films on a Red or shoot low budget weddings on a Handycam you are still Bill Edmunds Weddings!!!

There is also no harm at all in dual branding for either weddings (high and low end) or commercial jobs and use Gulf Films for more commercial/business productions.

Chris

Corey Graham
September 26th, 2011, 09:14 AM
Actually since Corey has now posted I think you cannot do better than what he has!!

Thank you Chris, that means a lot!

William Smyth
September 26th, 2011, 12:18 PM
For me, using my name really wasn't a good option. My name is so common (even with the slightly uncommon spelling) that it just seemed too anonymous. Joe Doe Videography, anyone?

Plus, while I shoot most of the weddings, I do have other shooters working for me.

We tried to come up with a name the evoked a certain feeling that was somewhat different than the usualy wedding video company names.

From a marketing standpoint, maybe the best names are things like, Miami Wedding Videos or Boston Wedding Videos. Let's face it, when a bride starts searching for a videographer online, those will be the keywords she uses on Google.

Joe Thompson
September 26th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Bill,

There is another option of course. You could just change your name. If you're fortunate enough, and cool enough to be called Don Bloom, which is even one syllable less than James Bond, you're truly laughing :) Heck, all you really need at that stage is a tag line to go with it (Don Bloom | Shooting to thrill). I can see it already, Wix.com - Website built by EmiliaandBill based on Blank Website (http://www.billmccool.com), International wedding cinematographer and legend 2012.

Anyway, you asked a simple question, but unfortunately you won't find a simple answer on here. You can look at the replies, or you can take a look at those inspirational vendors on the eventDV top 25 list, and you'll find guys using frilly & sentimental names, and guys going by their non cool name which is making them big bucks, so no black and white answer as to a 'best' company name or domain.

Firstly, what tickles YOUR fancy first and foremost. Forget about those search engines for a second, what rocks your boat? It's your company perception that you're building up, so make sure you're 100% happy with how it's perceived by YOU. Costly to change again later. Get it right now, and take a long term view of your goals and ambitions. If you expand, your company identity shouldn't need to as well.

Next get your Customer's hat on. Joe Thompson is not cool, and i decided that i could add a personal touch in my end product, so decided to go with a company name that ticked the boxes and criteria below.

short | catchy | memorable | consistent | marketable | available | relevant | expandable | unique | familiar

With the customers hat on, I like as few syllables as possible in a domain & company name, but heck i'm just lazy. Keep it short and snappy. By finding a short syllabled company name, you're increasing the chances of being remembered, being found, and not forgotten. Try and choose words that are familiar, that customers will not mis-spell. I hate having to type long urls, it's a pet hate of mine. I will goggle a short version of it, to try and avoid the long ordeal of typing it.

i.e. I'll just google Joe Simon

For me it's a bonus if the customer gets a vision of your market, or the feature package or service that your selling, through your company name, before even looking at your portfolio, so if you are going with a frilly name, perhaps choose words that are relevant to the perception you're trying to create of your company. Not hugely important, as this is where your online branding comes in.

Bare in mind, that customers will see 10 results on any search page, so a catchy domain could just be the difference. In a congested industry, being unique is vital IMO, and if a Bride is undecided after looking at 3 portfolios, she might just decide to go with the guy or gal, with that unique and catchy company.

Nowadays, i think social networking is important, and if you're a user of twitter, facebook or vimeo etc, you might want to check that your chosen name is available on these sites, before committing to your end selection. Important to some, may not be to others. Probably being a perfectionist, but i'd like to keep consistent identity across all sites that i use or market on.

Lastly, there is the small matter of branding, touched on above, and there's a story to be told on every website, so choose a name that fits a theme, because this just might be another small deciding factor that makes a bride choose you.

I purposely didn't include 'searchable' in the list of criteria that's important to me. I feel that if you keep a blog (which I do), and if you regularly update a blog (which I tend to do), then search engines will pick up on relevant content within. I've googled wedding cinematography, and only 2 results showed up in my region, with the word "weddings or video's", so a lot of clever tagging can be done on your site. Interestingly, most were non cool names.

To conclude it's personal preference at the end of the day bill. Find a name you're proud to call your company. Also, it's one thing getting in the top 10 of search engines, but you still need the customer to walk into your shop, so to speak, and remembering you after the experience, so bare that in mind.

Don Bloom
September 26th, 2011, 04:02 PM
I was going to change my name to Bill Edmunds or Joe Thompson, but since I couldn't decide, I have to keep what my parents gave me. Too bad James Bond is already taken.
O|O
/--\

James Strange
September 26th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Think i've got you all beat in the unfortunate name area.

My name is James Strange

I trade under StrangeWorx Productions

When I set up, I didn't know how i'd make my living,

9 years later, for better or worse, I am a wedding video man.

In hindsight, I think JS wedding films would have been better, and I toy with the idea of changing every no w and then.

But I am pretty established as StrangeWorx Productions, and everything involved in changing is pretty daunting!

But, StrangeWorx Productions is quite an unusual name, it doesn't make it obvious what I do.

I've recently added 'wedding films' to the end of 'StrangeWorx Productions'

Still think about a total change though.....

Chris Harding
September 26th, 2011, 07:04 PM
A small but important point is that spelling your business name should be easy. I started a business for my son doing Weighing Software so we called it "softweigh" ..pretty logical and simple I would have thought??? People still stuggle to find the website because they look for "softway" so in James's case having the "X" in your business name might cause people not to find you as they could quite easily look for "Strange Works"

Chris

Michael Simons
September 26th, 2011, 08:32 PM
Think i've got you all beat in the unfortunate name area.

My name is James Strange

I trade under StrangeWorx Productions

When I set up, I didn't know how i'd make my living,

9 years later, for better or worse, I am a wedding video man.

In hindsight, I think JS wedding films would have been better, and I toy with the idea of changing every no w and then.

But I am pretty established as StrangeWorx Productions, and everything involved in changing is pretty daunting!

But, StrangeWorx Productions is quite an unusual name, it doesn't make it obvious what I do.

I've recently added 'wedding films' to the end of 'StrangeWorx Productions'

Still think about a total change though.....

"People Are Strange Productions" wouldn't work?

Don Bloom
September 26th, 2011, 09:17 PM
"People Are Strange Productions" wouldn't work?

Jim Morrison might file a lawsuit. Oh wait, I guess he wouldn't.

James Strange
September 27th, 2011, 12:52 PM
Flashbacks of childhood bullying....

That's song was sung to me ..... A LOT!

Bill Edmunds
September 27th, 2011, 01:12 PM
Thank you to everyone here. Great insight and advice from all of you! I'm probably going to go with Bill Edmunds Wedding Films since it will associate the business with, hopefully, a personal touch. And its easy to remember.... I think. I have used the term 'Films' to connote creativity and to stand out a bit. I haven't encountered anyone who thought I was actually shooting on film... and DLRs footage looks like film anyways! A ton of movies are shot on video as well, so you could argue they technically aren't films. But Peter Jackson and George Lucas seem to be doing okay ;)