I've just been sent a shooting script for a corporate video for an American client. I'm shooting b-roll and interviews in London. The script contains a term I have never heard before: chiron. It seems to be used where I would use the term lower third.

I have been doing this for a living for a good few years now but it's the first time I've ever seen this expression!

Can anyone confirm the meaning?

Thanks.

I may have answered my own question. I think it's supposed to be Chyron, a caption generator.

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Yep, you got it.

Yes, back in ancient history, Chyron was the leading supplier of on-screen text equipment to TV stations.

"Chyron" became a generic term for any on-screen text.

Also referred to simply as "Font".

As in:
Technical Director: "And.... lose Font."

The same thing happened with the term, "Dubner." When I started at Grass Valley Group in January 1987, we had recently purchased the company, which made character generators and other graphics boxes.

I think the problem was that "Character Generator", at seven syllables, was too long. So users called it the Chyron, the Dubner, or whatever the product name was. From a proper noun, the word became a general noun, then a verb, and probably an adjective and adverb too.

Add a Dubner. Dubner it! Be quiet; I'm Dubnering! I'll ship it after it's been Dubnered. :)

Also see: "CG" (pronounced "See-Gee")

I think "CG" came into vogue a bit later as "computer generated", though "CG" text was used on switcher button labels. Verbally, it was "the Dubner" at the post houses I visited. That might have varied by region though.

Also, verbally in the field, we were "Grass", though nobody within the company called ourselves that. It was always "Grass Valley Group" or "GVG".

I was familiar with Capgen (no prizes) as a text generator, but Chyron was new to me both as a brand and as a script direction. Note it's spelt 'chiron' in the script I have.

Interesting stuff (ish!).

Thanks for all the replies.

I think "CG" came into vogue a bit later as "computer generated", though "CG" text was used on switcher button labels. Verbally, it was "the Dubner" at the post houses I visited. That might have varied by region though.

Heard CG in a number of CONTROL ROOMS talking about Character Generator... never hear Dubner though... You might be right with the "regional" thing though... mind you, I've only been at this since '98...

Interesting discussion, agreed.

I was first aware of Capgen in the early 80s when my stepfather was one of the old school graphics guys at one of the UK regional TV companies (Anglia). For the Saturday afternoon sports results they used Letraset until the Capgen arrived, then he had to be reskilled. He always says it took the heart out of his graphics work, though, and was never a fan!

Ah, the 80's... We had a Chyron VP-2 in the tiny video production group in college. I think it was generally referred to in the industry as the "VP- Too Slow", which could be a problem when the director was shouting "Change Chyron! Change Chyron!".

Even though it was only a character generator, I used to do really crude graphics on it by distorting and spacing the characters to make rudimentary drawings. It was fascinating that you could make it transition from page to page by pressing a momentary switch wired to contacts in the back of the box... (We were easily amused in those days.)

The first character generator I bought for work was based on a very early personal computer from a company called MindSet. JVC was marketing their machines in the mid 80's for CG and very simple animation.
I remember the excited call I got from my vendor telling that the memory cartridges I had ordered had been upgraded from 8Kb to 32Kb at no extra charge! Which was good because they were about $200 each!
They looked like game cartridges and plugged into slots in the front of the machine, each one held about 30 pages of text. A "page" of text could be as small as a single line or even single character, each page being some individual item to add to the live production or editing pass one screen at a time. Fading and keying was accomplished with an external box with a big slider that the video signals passed through.
Oddly though the operating software actually used an animated graphical user interface years and years before we had Windows on any PC's at work.

"You crazy kids..." **scratch** **spit*** "Why when I started back in the seventies...."

If the text wasn't in the FILM CHAIN as a slide - "Slide up" was the TD's call. "Super OVER" was the switching command. Then we put the white text on a MENU BOARD in the studio, shot it with a camera and it was luma-keyed over.

But yeah, the character generator when it came in was called that. "Character generator" or "See Gee" Chyron was also used as a name/verb. Never saw or heard dubner, but that might be a regional thing. I was working in television in Houston in the early - mid seventies.

Richard, I expected at least a 'dagnabbit' in there!

All very interesting. Thanks to everyone for chiming in. My client has sent the updated script today and it's still misspelt 'chiron'.

Just to add my 2 cents worth....

I've come across the following:

Super, Cap, CG, Aston, Riley ...they all mean the same thing.

And I came across a 'new' term (for me) last year - 'Shot-lock'.

It's a term used in Autocue's Q-Series electronic newsroom system for live news - a shot-lock is a mark on a script which indicates where a caption should be used.

As a side-bar, at the university where I teach the first home assignment given to first year TV students is to research a list of '50 words used in TV News' - and it's very interesting how many (or few) they get right.

If anyone fancies having a go I'll happily post or send them the list.(You'll have to find the answers yourself!)

Every industry has it's own jargon - and in the UK I've found the BBC and commercial broadcasters have their own individual terms for the same thing (It's a shovel, no it's a spade, no it's a digging implement!).

While I personally might be relatively fluent in 'TV News speak' - I guess I'd be lost if working on a film set or other environment.

And Ian - Letraset? When I started at the BBC when we needed, for example, an animated map showing a motorway route not only were Letraset letters applied but a hole was cut in the cardboard map and then an 'animated' cardboard line was pulled live during the broadcast to show the route.

How things have changed! I guess it's a bit like the difference between the first flight by the Wright Brothers and the F-22 Raptor.

Yeah, jargon can make everyday stuff seem special. Like these terms:

* A spring clothespin with the wooden bits turned around - a C47.
* An extension cord - a stinger.
* A branch used to cast a shadow - a branchasaurus.
* Something that "goes between" - a gobo.

And on and on... :)

Yeah, jargon can make everyday stuff seem special. Like these terms:

...
* A branch used to cast a shadow - a branchasaurus.
...

And on and on... :)

I think you mean "branchaloris", which is a combination of branch and cucoloris, which is more commonly known as a "cookie" - a sheet of wood or foam core with cutouts, used to cast patterns of light.

I like the idea of a branchasaurus though - sounds like the kind of thing my nephew would come up with (he's in a bit of a dinosaur phase right now!)

Hehehe. We're a bit naughty when we're on location. When I shoot with the regular crew we have a few in house expressions that sound really grand but actually mean very banal things! As a couple of my clients hang out here I will keep them to myself ;-). We use C47 a lot - that one always makes me giggle.

On a (pretty much completely) unrelated note. When we do sound checks involving attractive ladies, we are VERY bad people. We ask them to say a couple of words which are particularly sibillant or plosive (and we explain what this means to add technical credance), like 'yes' and 'baby'. We explain that it's important to check volume as well so we ask the speaker to say each word three times with increasing volume. I leave the rest to your imagination . . .

I have no doubt that in this age of ridiculously over-sensitive political correctness, one day we will lose a customer (or our liberty!) as a result. Meanwhile, we giggle like drains every time we do it. I'm nearly 50.

* An extension cord - a stinger.

STRINGER, isn't it?

Stinger/stringer - that could be another regional thing. I've certainly only heard them called stingers.

I recently dug up an old promo tape for Chyron, circa 1984. 2 fonts! 4 typeface sizes! Can do drop shadow and borders! I should upload it to youtube. lol

"Stinger" on all the TV and Film sets I've ever worked. But yeah, could be a regional thing.
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