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Chris Hurd
December 11th, 2001, 11:05 AM
Howdy folks,

Thinking about doing some re-arranging around here, to better facilitate everybody and evrything. Let me know what you think: cheers and jeers equally welcome.

The three forums under "TOTEM Poll: Totally Off Topic, Everything Media" are suffering from lack of use, so I think I'll fold them all into one forum and maybe drop it under "The DV Network."

Likewise, "DV for the Masses" will be moved under "The DV Network."

"Camera Evolution & Development" to be retired, with its one thread moved intact to "General DV Discussion."

"Community Marketplace" section to remain unchanged.

"Spotlight on DV Camcorders" to retain the somewhat lightweight GL1 and VX2000 forums.

"The XL1 / XL1S Watchdog" to become its own primary forum, with subtopics to split up the amazingly numerous posts. I'm open to suggestions... I'm thinking of organizing subtopics as the Articles section on the Watchdog, as in Lens & Optics, Microphones & Audio, Camera Support, etc. etc. *Hopefully* this will make things a little easier to navigate.

We're starting to get repeating threads about stuff that's already been talked about but has been buried weeks ago behind newer posts. Let me know what you think.

Much respect,

Chris Hurd
January 3rd, 2002, 07:47 AM
Reconstruction begins -- "DV for the Masses" has been moved, now under "The DV Network." Also, default views for the entire forum used to be 30 days, now it's 365 days. This will be helpful in showing pretty much all threads from the time we first went online until now.

Wayde Gardner
January 3rd, 2002, 08:11 AM
Chris,

What you've provided is greatly appreciated. Adding to the general knowledge pool, is it feasable to add a "Coming Events' type forum that would let folks know about shows, training seminars, special demos, user groups, etc.

I'd like to see (as I haven't found one yet) a Final Cut Pro user group in Dallas and announcements of these types of events in the Texas area.

Again, thanks for the platform.
WG
Frisco, Tx

Chris Hurd
January 3rd, 2002, 08:28 AM
Good idea, and I've been thinking about this a bit, and it will probably go on the DVinfoNet website under "Network." For now, check the thread in this Announcements forum under "Hope to see you at these upcoming events" as a temporary solution.

Regarding FCP in Dallas, check out the DVCreatorsNet travelling workshop, listed on my site under "Resources." Hope this helps,

Chris Hurd
February 20th, 2002, 11:19 AM
As of Feb 20...

"The XL1 / XL1S Watchdog" has become its own primary forum, with subtopics to split up the amazingly numerous posts. Some subtopics are Lens & Optics and Microphones & Audio, with more to follow as neccessary. *Hopefully* this will make things a little easier to navigate.

The three forums under "TOTEM Poll: Totally Off Topic, Everything Media" are suffering from lack of use, so they've been folded into one forum.

Vic Owen
February 20th, 2002, 11:55 AM
Nice change, Chris. It flows so well that I had to think about it to remember what it looked like before the change!

Cheers

Dan C.
February 20th, 2002, 12:03 PM
Great changes, especially considering how much more posts that were appearing in the XL1/s forum compared to the VX2000/PD150 one.

Ed Smith
February 20th, 2002, 12:43 PM
Just thought I will add my comment:

Much more easier to search for something on a specific topic about the XL1, neat idea.

Ed

Rob Lohman
February 20th, 2002, 01:07 PM
How about a news "channel" where people can post DV
related news? This way you have an easy news archive
without it scattered all around the other forums

Just a thought...

Chris Hurd
February 20th, 2002, 01:10 PM
Rob - Not a bad idea at all, but I gotta get caught up with a bunch of other things first!

;-)

Peter Koller
February 20th, 2002, 02:54 PM
Hi, Chris

maybe a short "read first" paragraph on the index site would help encourage people (especially the newbies, like me) to use the search function before posting a question.

Because, for my part, I found the answer to one or two questions in older posts, but only after I posted them myself and wasted everybodys time because I didnīt use the search option.

A LOT of questions I did not even think about yet have already been answered in older posts.

And the splitting of the XL-1 forum is perfect, make the sub-forums like you said and as time passes youīll see if there is need for more of them or if some of them donīt work and need to be rearranged.

Chris, this is the best forum on DV I know I canīt thank you enough for keeping it up. It is a huge pool of knowledge that can save a lot of time and money for us folks.

Adrian Douglas
February 21st, 2002, 01:59 AM
Sweet mate :)

Chris Hurd
March 9th, 2002, 10:23 PM
FYI, the "show e-mail" problem has been fixed. You guys should be able to send e-mail to each other now, thanks to a healthy tweak from Jeff Kramer, our resident server surgeon.

Ken Tanaka
March 9th, 2002, 11:23 PM
That's great news, Chris. This will be a handy feature to have. Thank you Jeff.

Ed Smith
March 15th, 2002, 05:02 PM
Chris and Jeff,

The e-mail function only seems to work to the people who have joined before 10th March (when the problem was fixed), all people after this the button does not appear.

Hope you can sort this out.

All the best,

Ed Smith

Chris Hurd
March 15th, 2002, 05:22 PM
Jeff anticipated this problem. Our work-around for now is to go through about once every week or ten days and update everybody, so... please stand by...

Jacques Mersereau
March 17th, 2002, 10:37 AM
Hi Chris and Everyone,

Now that the DV-L seems to be down (over a month and a half . . . so much for new servers)
I would love it if this community would work the same way. All posts/replys are
sent via email. Yes, lots more stuff to go through, but much easierIMO to see everything
than clicking through web pages. I am interested in all subjects.

P.S. I assume you're working NAB again this year. . . Canopus or ?

Rob Lohman
March 17th, 2002, 11:15 AM
Great idea to allow more choice. I prefer my web pages with
the "what's new" feature. Use it all the time. I get swamped
by e-mail everyday, so please, no more :) ..... but options are
always great to have.... now about the Email notification option
that is default enabled on every post..... Chris?

Chris Hurd
March 17th, 2002, 11:42 AM
I appreciate the suggestions, but the advantage of a web-based message board over a mail list server is that everyone who can find the site can read the board. It's open to everybody. No need to subscribe to a mail list.

DV-L will return to action very soon (see Resources page at dvinfo.net for more info about what the DV-L is).

These message boards allow on-site archival for all discussion topics; we can always go back to an old topic and renew the discussion. For now, I recommend using the "e-mail notification" feature to stay on top of favorite discussions.

Additional input/debate/suggestions are always welcome of course.

Robert Knecht Schmidt
April 26th, 2002, 01:49 PM
Hi Chris,

I can't find any explanation for the titles given to some folks. For example, what distinguishes "Regular Crew" from "Contributor"? And is there a chain-of-command heirarchy? E.g., is there a Vice Kennelmaster to take over in the event of the death or incapacitation of the Kennelmaster? (Heaven forbid!)

Ken Tanaka
April 26th, 2002, 08:43 PM
Understandable bewilderment, Robert. The titles are based on the number of postings the member has made. The exceptions are the titles "Wrangler", which designates a moderator, and "Kennelmaster" which designates...Chris. No, there's no real hierarchy around here. Moderators can move threads, delete threads, etc. Chris has top control of the site. We're all volunteers and pitch-in as needed and as available. Chris has designed the warm-body support such that there's someone available nearly 24hrs a day.

Robert Knecht Schmidt
April 26th, 2002, 09:01 PM
But it can't be based entirely on numbers of postings. That's why I asked about the Contributor/Regular Crew distinction.

Ken Tanaka
April 26th, 2002, 10:59 PM
Yeah, 'tis. I don't have the exact title/count table at hand but I believe your next change will come when you pass 50 posts.

Robert Knecht Schmidt
April 26th, 2002, 11:19 PM
How come some members are marked Regular Crew, with a wide range of post numbers? For example, at the time of this post, Peter Koller has 57, EdwardTr has 43, and ronluc8667 has 27. They're all marked Regular Crew. This will be my 42nd and I'm a Contributor.

Also, some Tourists have fewer posts than some New Boots.

I'm guessing that it could be time-based as well as post-based, but I can't pull out a pattern.

I'm sure DVInfo.net title rankings are the product of a genius formula better guarded than Coca-Cola's.

Adrian Douglas
April 26th, 2002, 11:21 PM
Robert,

This is part of a post from Chris in Jan, hope it clears up your confusion.

For anyone who's interested, here's how your user titles break down. These appear on the boards when you post, just below your user name.

less than 5 posts: Tourist
less than 20 posts: New Boot
less than 50 posts: Regular Crew
less than 90 posts: Major Player
more than 90 posts: Trustee

User who has an article on the XL1 Watchdog or elsewhere on DVinfoNet: Contributor

User who chips in resources to insure success: Sponsor

User who happens to be Jeff Kramer, the community's server wizard: Warden (hope it's not too warm in the engine room, Jeff)

Robert Knecht Schmidt
April 26th, 2002, 11:34 PM
Sweet, thanks Adrian. (I completely forgot that Chris published an XL1 review of mine when the site was young. That was a whole girlfriend ago!)

Rob Lohman
April 27th, 2002, 08:34 AM
How many earth time slots is a "girlfriend" ? :)

Chris Hurd
April 27th, 2002, 09:20 AM
Howdy from Texas,

From personal experience, a "girlfriend" can be anything from a day or two, up to about six months. Before I got married, the longest I had been able to sustain one was about six months. I've heard that some can go on for years. I'll accept that as a valid measure of time.

There's no guarded formula about the rankings, but it is a mix between the number of posts and levels of contribution. This is still a very young board with a small population (yes, over 1,050 members is still considered small, but I like it that way). The counts required for a step up in ranking have changed up, and will probably change up again in the future as things get bigger and busier. Here 'tis:

a Tourist has made fewer than 5 posts -- this is somebody who might just be passing through, or wants to use the board to get a specific question answered. Obviously this is someone who's just recently joined; no way of knowing yet how long they'll stick around.

a New Boot has made more than 5 but fewer than 25 posts -- this is somebody who seems committed to using the board but is still fairly new. It's like a probationary status. They're here and are part of the team; let's see if they can stick it out.

a Regular Crew member has made more than 25 posts -- these folks are the backbone of the community, who have earned the right to full-fledged membership status by virtue of all the posts they've made. They have "arrived."

a Major Player has made more than 75 posts -- it seems like they swing through here quite a bit, and they're very vocal, we always hear from 'em. At the rate these folks go, they don't remain Major Players for long, as they're always moving up.

a Trustee member has made more than 150 posts -- someone who's obviously committed to making regular use of the boards, answering questions and helping out. If this person asked to borrow the Ford, I'd probably toss 'em the keys. They've been around often enough, I feel like I can trust 'em.

an Inner Circle member has made more than 250 posts -- beer drinking buddies for sure. But you don't see too many of them because I've invited most of 'em to serve in a different capacity, as forum moderators.

It's very important to note, however, that these rankings which are based on post counts really don't mean anything at all except to give you an indea of how often somebody is using the board. It certainly is *not* intended to be any measure of skill, expertise or knowledge. It's really just for fun, and that's all. There are no smiley's or emoticons or avatars, so to make up for that, we can have some minor fun with the titles.

a Contributor, as was pointed out earlier, has an article on the XL1 Watchdog or elsewhere on DVinfoNet -- I wanted to acknowledge these folks somehow... this title doesn't reflect any number of posts. Whenever I recognize somebody who has something on one of the sites, I just go in and give 'em this custom title.

a Sponsor, to repeat, chips in resources to insure success -- these are the vendors who have banner ads on the site. When they post on the boards, I want you to know that they've kicked in monetarily, which makes them truly wonderful people.

a Wrangler is a forum moderator -- they mostly come from the Inner Circle group, like Adrian and John, but sometimes they get suckered into the job because they know what they're talking about (Don Palomaki). There is one Uber-Wrangler who has more power than the rest, and that's Ken Tanaka. He and server-meister Jeff Kramer qualify as "vice-kennelmasters," I guess. What really worked out in this regard is that with Adrian and John in the Far East, Rob in Europe and Ken and others here stateside, there's somebody around pretty much all the time.

Finally, there's a smattering of custom titles here and there, but they're fairly rare. Consider it as kind of like an Easter Egg hunt. I'll start you off with an easy one: who is the Machinist Mate?

;-)

Hope this helps Robert, if you don't like your Contributor designation just let me know, since we know each other personally and have had breakfast together a few times at NAB then you qualify for a rare custom title. But it better be a good one!

Rob Lohman
April 27th, 2002, 12:22 PM
I'm probably spoiling it for others... but I found these:

Kennelmaster - Chris Hurd
Machinist Mate - the graphics guy
Number 1000 - Adam Brooks
Warden - jeff

What have I won?

Vic Owen
April 27th, 2002, 03:28 PM
Ha! Even though, in Texas, they don't have much of what we in Washington refer to as trees, maybe Chris could scrape up enough to carve you a new pair of wooden shoes, and send it over filled with some real Tex-Mex! :)

Robert Knecht Schmidt
April 28th, 2002, 06:59 AM
Chris, you're too generous. I'm cool with Contributor. Once I get a little better at bass, you can upgrade me to Fifth Beatle status.

Mark Austin
January 4th, 2003, 01:03 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : I'm probably spoiling it for others... but I found these:

Kennelmaster - Chris Hurd
Machinist Mate - the graphics guy
Number 1000 - Adam Brooks
Warden - jeff -->>>

Slash Rules - (the Mighty) Josh Bass (da kid's amazing, top 20 and closing...)

Dylan Couper
January 5th, 2003, 02:16 AM
I always wondered what the story behing "Slash Rules" was. G&R fan?

Chris Hurd
January 28th, 2003, 10:33 AM
Recently modified...

For anyone who's interested, here's how your user titles break down. These appear on the boards when you post, just below your user name.

less than 3 posts: Tourist
less than 20 posts: New Boot
less than 100 posts: Regular Crew
less than 200 posts: Major Player
less than 300 posts: Trustee
more than 300 posts: Inner Circle

User who has an article on the XL1 somewhere on DVinfoNet: Contributor

User who chips in resources to insure success: Sponsor

Robert Knecht Schmidt
January 28th, 2003, 10:56 AM
Looks as if right now you'd have to crack the Top 20 to make it to Inner Circle.

Chris Hurd
January 28th, 2003, 11:14 AM
The rate some folks are going, this shouldn't be too hard to do.