View Full Version : New Technicolor Profile Is Amazing


Thomas L. Phillips
April 30th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Since I downloaded it and install it on my 7D and 5Dmkii, I have not stopped playing with it. It was designed for the 5D, but I cannot tell the difference on the two camera.

I hope to have some video examples up later today. Comparing the Flat versus the New Technicolor Picture Style.

Here is the link to how to get it on your camera.

April 2011 Vincent Laforet’s Blog (http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2011/04/) ... on-5dmkii/

Thomas

Dave Murray
April 30th, 2011, 10:35 PM
Uploaded the technicolor profile in my 7D. Shot a test video with the recommended profile settings. Color graded with the S-curve lut using Red Giant in AE CS5. I'm quite impressed with the result. Beautiful color, saturation and contrast. Definately an improvement from the flat profile I have been using. Thanks for sharing.

Ben Denham
May 1st, 2011, 06:05 AM
Check out this thread to see my first test and a few thoughts on its strengths-

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eos-5d-mk-ii-hd/495287-technicolor-cinestyle-initial-tests.html

Kelly Huffaker
May 1st, 2011, 07:40 AM
Right on! I'll probably download this sometime today and test it out with my 7d. I convert my files with Neoscene which does have a very slight gamma change from the original .mov file, so I wonder how much different it'll look.

Kent Frost
May 1st, 2011, 10:19 AM
Will this work on a 550D?

Ruben Kremer
May 1st, 2011, 10:31 AM
Will this work on a 550D?

I can confirm that the Technicolor profile works on the 550D/T2i just fine! Did a few quick shots around my desk and all works exactely as it should on the 550D...

Lee Tamer
May 3rd, 2011, 02:27 PM
just used it on my 60D and it works

Mikey Williams
May 3rd, 2011, 05:28 PM
just used it on my 60D and it works


How did you get it to load in the 60D? I can't get the EOS Utility to open up the Technicolor profile, it simply won't let me click on the open file icon.

Luke Gates
May 6th, 2011, 06:17 AM
I really want to test out the new technicolor profile but I'm skeptical to install it on top of magic lantern. Using a T2i. Anyone out there have any success with this?

Jeremy Pevar
May 6th, 2011, 02:29 PM
All that we're talking about here is a Picture Style. It should not in any way effect, or be effected by, Magic Lantern. The first thing to do is download the latest versions of the Canon software for your computer - EOS Utility, etc. Once you have done this, follow the simple instructions that come with the Technicolor Picture Style.

Good luck!

Lee Tamer
May 7th, 2011, 09:15 AM
How did you get it to load in the 60D? I can't get the EOS Utility to open up the Technicolor profile, it simply won't let me click on the open file icon.

Really? It worked fine for me, I followed the instructions on the site and had no problems. it showed up on my camera as a user defined setting

Jason Burkhimer
May 7th, 2011, 11:05 AM
How did you get it to load in the 60D? I can't get the EOS Utility to open up the Technicolor profile, it simply won't let me click on the open file icon.

Make sure your dial on the actual camera is turned to the C1, C2, or C3 setting that you are going to save the profile on. Also remember to save the settings in camera once its installed.

-burk

Chris Barcellos
May 7th, 2011, 03:38 PM
I really want to test out the new technicolor profile but I'm skeptical to install it on top of magic lantern. Using a T2i. Anyone out there have any success with this?

Yes, works just fine. I have used Magic Lantern with the Profile. See this vimeo post for test with t2i and 5D, in which I used the false colors to set exposure in first place:

Technicolor Cinestyle tests T2i v. Canon 5D Mark II on Vimeo

Lloyd Coleman
May 7th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Chris,

Curious why you are using the 5248 LUT rather than the CineStyle? Do you find it more accurate or pleasing? For me the CineSytle is on the verge of being too flat and the 5248 even more so. I'm just starting to play with this and trying to find what works best for me and would love to hear what you have found.

Thanks, Lloyd

Jimmy Toha
May 8th, 2011, 09:57 PM
I think some people prefer their shot to be as flat as possible during filming so that all the information of the shot - shadow details, under and overexposed areas, color are retained. They can then, during post production, play around with the contrast or saturation level to achieve the look that they want.

Chris Barcellos
May 8th, 2011, 10:38 PM
Chris,

Curious why you are using the 5248 LUT rather than the CineStyle? Do you find it more accurate or pleasing? For me the CineSytle is on the verge of being too flat and the 5248 even more so. I'm just starting to play with this and trying to find what works best for me and would love to hear what you have found.

Thanks, Lloyd

Lloyd:

Technology is moving so fast. Actually, I made this test film just about an hour before I found David Newman's post re: Cineform Cinestyle .lut. I could not get the Cinestyle download to work in FIrst Light, so I pick 5248 as a based to edit from in Vegas. I have since looked at the Cineforms Cinestyle look, and I think it looks pretty nice and willl be working with that.

Jeff Troiano
May 9th, 2011, 09:25 AM
I posted this in another thread about this topic, and thought I'd ask the same thing here.

Could someone correct me if I'm wrong, would using the LUT be like using a "canned" look, inside magic bullet looks? I could take the flat profile video and put into color, or some other grading program, or use color correction in my NLE, and dial in a similar look. With the LUT, it gets me there, then I can tweak, or I can stay with the flat profile, and create my own look?

Ted Ramasola
May 9th, 2011, 10:37 AM
The LUT is your base point for your grade.
The LUT is not the same, strictly speaking, as the "canned" look that you mentioned as it merely "reverses" the s-curve that lifted the shadows and controlled the highlights in the image.
However, how useful the provided LUT is depends on the program that you use to open it as some can provide better tweak controls than others.

Chris Barcellos
May 9th, 2011, 11:06 AM
The way I look at Cineform's FirstLight is I am applying the "in camera" look I want after the fact and in a file that is better suited to take the adjustment. So I shoot the very flat file (now Cinestyle), process it all to Cineform and then apply the adjustment instantaneously to the files using first light. Then in opening in my NLE (in my case, Vegas Pro) all my footage for that scene has been processed that way, and I can then make less adjustments in the NLE for the final product.

I think this is very similar to what those who like to do in camera setups, but in this case, you don't burn the look into the original footage.

Nigel Barker
May 10th, 2011, 04:22 AM
I am really not sure what use the LUT file is a using the LUT Buddy plug-in for Final Cut Pro it takes 3-4 minutes to process a 20 second clip on my 2.5GHz MacBook Pro i.e. it's basically unusable because of the excessive processing time. It also crashes FCP if you just apply the supplied LUT so inside LUT Buddy you have to import, convert to 3D & hen export the LUT ready for re-import. I am assuming that this is the correct way to use the LUT but am surprised that no other FCP users have mentioned the crashing. It looks like you can get back the correct look using the 3-way colour corrector in any case & this does work instantly.

Lance Watts
May 10th, 2011, 10:55 PM
I'm not sure why you're crashing. It works fine for me.

Jon Braeley
May 11th, 2011, 06:05 AM
While I think this profile is a step in the right direction and I do not want to put a damper on this workaround, it also tells me my choice of abandoning the 7D was right. On it's release I jumped on the 7D but right away had worries over the final results unless I changed my workflow - especially grading for final output.
The end result was a very flat profile, like many users I guess. But I come from old school photography and could'nt help analysing my footage before a color grade .... not a good idea. Grading 7D is especially difficult and quite often it left me actually changing the look, whereas the original intention is to improve the image.

Now it's easy to see why Bullet Looks are so popular with these cameras. My workflow uses color as the final grading tool. I guess I was used to Sony's cine-gamma curves which are superb ... so I am heading back that way with the F3. I will head back to DSLR's to check out 5DIII and my fingers are crossed - hopefully there will not be so many workarounds... hey we may even get uncompressed out.

Nigel Barker
May 11th, 2011, 05:01 PM
I'm not sure why you're crashing. It works fine for me.It works OK for me now I downloaded the new LUT that Technicolor released that doesn't crash FCP when you render the footage. It still takes way too long to render.

Jeff Troiano
May 12th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'm going to post this here as well in the other thread about the technocolor profile.

On a site I read, in their weekly news letter, they had an article discussing what a LUT is. It was written by a professional colorist. Basically he was saying a LUT used to make you flat video look nice for editing, but should be removed, so that the flat picture could be the base for coloring.