I've got a copy of Pauline Kael's Citizen Kane Book which contains both the complete shooting script by Mankiewicz & Welles plus the final cutting continuity from RKO, and those lines are not in there (and they're definitely not in the film, either). At this point I'm leaning toward the IMDB hoax theory: somebody probably submitted the bogus lines as a joke, and they were most likely published automatically without any fact checking on IMDB's side.

There are hardly any "deleted scenes" from Kane that were actually filmed. Robert L. Carringer's book "The Making of Citizen Kane" has an appendix devoted to pre-production sketches of scenes that didn't make the final script, back when it was called "American," mostly dealing with Kane's first wife Emily and the death of their son Howard. However there was a brothel sequence called "Georgie's Place" that made it through photography, which after an objection from the Hays Office was re-worked as the Inquirer celebration.

ha ha...thanks for your insightful post, Chris. I can't wait to print it out and send it to my old friend who caused such a stir in my old game. I haven't seen him in a long time so it will be unexpected to 'revisit' the issue. You know what they say; "Time wounds all heels."

I'm am now of the accord that imdb was hoaxed. Then it got picked up by Amazon, and from there, numerous other sources began referencing it. It will now forever be associated with the film, yet was never even a part of its production. I would never have considered it had it not been for the quote having surfaced before.

FWIW, I would personnaly prefer posters initiate rounds by posting quotes they are personally familiar with and can reference actor and scene if necessary as opposed to having found it on the net and copied it over. What strikes me about this one is that of all the references I have seen of it, they all seem to be identical in terms of punctuations and capitalizations - which are fairly complex for this quote, so the single source hoax seems to make sense to me.

-Jon

Well, I went ahead and created an error ticket for IMDB asking them to remove it from their Citizen Kane quotes page (my note reads bogus lines -- this quote is fake and does not appear in Citizen Kane). Supposedly it'll take two to four weeks for an IMDB editor to review and approve or deny the correction. Honestly I can't believe this hasn't been caught before... or maybe it has, and the hoaxer keeps submitting those lines? Which would indicate that IMDB might be a little sloppy regarding that process. We'll see soon enough I guess.

Meanwhile I'll have a movie quote game challenge for you shortly...

Okay, you won't find this quote on IMDB. Two hints: it's an Academy Award winning black and white classic, and it's a true story.

Shorty: "Ted! Ted! Hey, Ted! Ted! Hey! Put these someplace, will ya?"

Ted: "What are they?"

Shorty: "Sizzle platters! I got the phonograph in my ship but I haven't got room for the records. We'll meet in Chungking and cut a Chinese rug!"

Ted: "Okay, Shorty!"

Bonus Questions: What's happening during this dialog? And later on, Ted won't be able to cut a rug. Why?

Bud: "Hey, Army! Hey, Ted! Give 'em hell for me!"

Ted: "When we get to Chungking we'll tell 'em it was a Navy show too!"

Bud: "They'll know that when they see how broke you are! Good hunting!"

Might need to post a hint for this one. Seems pretty obscure.
Although, B&W films are not my speciality. ;)

I'll keep posting dialog and hints every so often. This one is geared toward the Turner Classic Movies crowd.

Cool, I actually enjoy the Turner Classic's, but this doesn't ring any bells.
They are also playing a ton of Oscar nominated features at the moment.

Good luck, gang!

Cheers,

Mike

Ted: "Put the flaps up."

Dean: "We didn't even have them down!"

Ted: "How do you like that -- I wonder what else we forgot?"

One of only a few minor historical inaccuracies in the movie. The flaps on Ted's airplane were actually down when they took off. Bonus question: who was it that really did take off with flaps up, and why?

These quotes are great. I want to rent this movie now ... whatever it is.

I could keep on going, but it's time now to give this thing away:

You men are going to do things with a B-25 you thought were impossible.

Okay, Chris. Looks like this one is lingering too long, and just so it doesn't drag on for ANOTHER THIRTY SECONDS, I'll drop a few remarks in hoping to GET A LEG UP on this round.

My initial response to reading you clues was thinking about "No Time for Sargeants", which is completely the opposite of the one you are actually hinting, but due to your hints (planes....true story...Academy Award...etc) I'm going to have to go with one I saw sparingly probably about 21 years ago. (I managed a video store in the mid to late 80s so I ran alot of classics on the floor loop during the weekday mornings but only saw them sporadically due to transactions. We ran alot of Academy Classics Series and I think this may have been one of them...not sure.)

Anyway, your film is "30 SECONDS OVER TOKOYO" and is based on the documented events surrounding the Doolittle Raid. (The History Channel ran a few specials on it some few months ago.)

Okay, you won't find this quote on IMDB. Two hints: it's an Academy Award winning black and white classic, and it's a true story.

Shorty: "Ted! Ted! Hey, Ted! Ted! Hey! Put these someplace, will ya?"

Ted: "What are they?"

Shorty: "Sizzle platters! I got the phonograph in my ship but I haven't got room for the records. We'll meet in Chungking and cut a Chinese rug!"

Ted: "Okay, Shorty!"

Bonus Questions: What's happening during this dialog? And later on, Ted won't be able to cut a rug. Why?


What else? Mission prep. They are speaking in ad-hoc code.

Well, lets just say Ted's become a bit of a stumper.

-Jon

What else? Mission prep.
-Jon


Or are they in mid-mission? correct here if wrong.

I could keep on going, but it's time now to give this thing away:


And just for the record, I began typing my guess before your give-away clue.
-J.

Good for you, Jonathan! It is in fact Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. This movie has been on my mind recently not only because it ran on Turner Classics the other day, but also because the 65th reunion of the Doolittle Raiders is taking place in nearby San Antonio in April.

Now for the bonus questions breakdown:

What's happening during the "sizzle platters" dialog? The air crews are getting ready to take off from the deck of the Hornet. Ted won't be able to cut a rug later because of a very serious injury.

Who was it that really did take off with flaps up, and why? Lt. Bill Farrow's airplane, the last of sixteen B-25s to leave the deck of the Hornet that morning, took off without benefit of flaps because the pilots were startled by an accident. A sailor slipped and fell into one of the spinning propellers on Farrow's aircraft, losing an arm. The mishap wasn't fatal, but in the resulting confusion, the flaps were cycled again which retracted them to the up position. Since they were the last aircraft to take off, they had the benefit of extra deck space for a longer takeoff roll and were therefore just barely able to get into the air without flaps.

Anyway, it's a great movie, one of my all-time favorites: Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. All yours, Jonathan!

Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo... I've never seen it! Sounds like a very interesting flick though. I wonder if it will be playing on my cable network... maybe on the classics station that I have. We get some of the Turner Classics on occasion. If not then I'll have to request it.

Nice choice!

Mike

Good for you, Jonathan! It is in fact Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo. This movie has been on my mind recently not only because it ran on Turner Classics the other day, but also because the 65th reunion of the Doolittle Raiders is taking place in nearby San Antonio in April.Wow! I thought of that movie when I read your first clue, but only because I sat down and watched most of it with my dad last Sunday afternoon. I kept pointing out the way the bomber would jump up and over the trees on approach, then climb from ground level to bombing level in less than 2 seconds. I guess I'm spoiled from watching more modern effects!

Mark

Okay, the conch is mine, so here goes....


Person 1: "We're goin' in there with nuthin'."

Person 2: "We're goin' in there like everybody else. Nine guys, no weapons."



I expect this will be guessed really quickly, so for a bonus: Briefly describe the basis for this dialogue.

-Jon

Ocean's Eleven? Going into the casino. 9 makes sense because i think 2 of them were look outs

Ocean's Eleven? Going into the casino. 9 makes sense because i think 2 of them were look outs

Nope. Try again. (Nice try though.)
-Jon

... Ocean's Twelve? I haven't seen it, but I didn't know if it was the same type of thing.

Nah, what I meant by "nice try" was that I could easily imagine the quote being spoken in one of the 'Ocean's' movies, but in any case, you are still way off. There's pretty much no similarity between Ocean's Eleven, or Twelve and the movie I'm quoting from.

Here's a quick hint. The film I quoted from was released in 1979.

I thought this would go really quickly, I'm sure most folks on this thread have seen this movie at least once. But if its not picked up by tomorrow, I'll lay down another quote from it tomorrow afternoon.

Try again.
-Jon

At first I thought it was "the outsiders" but then the year nixed that idea.
Still thinking, maybe one more clue would help.

Oh, it's a shame that I have to take the throne back so quickly... but we gotta keep this train moving.

Jonathan's quote is from one of the great low-budget cult classics of all time: The Warriors.

The basis for this dialog: very early in the movie. The boys are on their way into the Bronx to attend a gigantic conclave called by Cyrus (can you dig it), president of the biggest gang in the City. In compliance, they're not packing. It's supposed to be a peaceful gathering... but it doesn't turn out that way.

This is a Walter Hill film, which means it's practically Peckinpah. Right up my alley! Back at ya with another quote shortly,

I just called it the throne... Jonathan called it the conch... it's probably been called lots of things before in this thread, but I propose that from now on we call it The Remote.

Well At least I was on the right track, Maybe with another clue I would have guessed it, oh well. I haven't seen the warriors in years, I knew it had something to do with a rumble. Alright Chris, you have the mic.

Thanks Chris. I had hoped to get back much earlier to lay down another clue, but got REALLY swamped this weekend and wasn't able to get back to the thread.

It was indeed The Warriors and Chris swept that up admirably.

Now that he is once again in possession of The Remote, I anticpate a need for a well tuned thinking cap. I await the next round.
-Jon

Okay, took awhile to think of this one... reaching back a ways, from 1980.

First Guy (can't speak due to injury): "Mmmm-mmm!"

Second Guy: "What's he sayin'?"

Third Guy: "He said to tell ya we done it for Dixie and nothin' else."

Sound familiar but can't put your finger on it? More quotes to follow.

Well, I know I don't know the answer, but just cuz its sitting here, I'm gonna take a quick stab at it, though I know its wrong. I gotta get this ball rollin'.

I'm guessing Southern Comfort. (I know it came out a year after the one you listed - but I had to guess.)

-Jon

Ah, Southern Comfort... you're getting warm, because my film starred one of the leads from Southern Comfort (and it wasn't Powers Boothe). If it helps, my film is a period piece. And believe it or not, despite being a period piece, it actually has something in common with The Warriors (and what would that be?).

A Main Character: "My little brother was fifteen years old. Now you think about that... on your way to Hell!"

Wow, a psychic link because I was originally thinking of Powers Booth when I guessed wrong - weird...In any case, I think you are pretty much giving it away now since most of the other folks in Souther Comfort were transitioning into or out of tv land during the early eighties, and what is left over leaves very little theatrically released period pieces.

Following a logical trail, I can only assume you got to thinking about Walter Hill from my last round.

He made a family film in 1980.....family film in a very different sense of the term. Family members playing family members. (Acting talent from the Keach, Carradine, and Quaid families)

It ain't Peckinpah, but still a great movie in my opinion.

The Long Riders.

-Jon

PS: Regarding your preference for Peckinpah films - Over most of the last two decades, our little town of Healdsburg has played host to an old theater that was refurbished, updated, and named the Raven Theater. The guy behind it has since left the area (I think he now lives in your neck of the woods) and although it is now attached to a smaller adjacent mini-theater film center, the main house is falling severely out of use. (Our town if full of idiots who don't know how to let a business do its thing.) Long story-short, The guy who ran the Raven had a thing for Peckinpah, and about once a year or so, he would run a week-long Peckinpah festival. It was great. On top of that, when pickins' were slim, He'd run The Wild Bunch for a weekend just for kicks.

Good times.

-Jon

It ain't PeckinpahIt ain't Bad Sam... but it's the next best thing, his protege Walter Hill.

Cool theater story! That I would like to see.

Thanks for saving me the effort of making a point about the unique casting in Long Riders.

It's all yours, Jonathan!

Okay, so here goes the next round.

This is from a very stylized film that was practically bursting at the seams with high-powered talent.

The following quote is very brief, but comprises the initiating sequence of an infamous (though low-key) scene that involved the much anticipated pairing of two very notable actors. This info practically gives it away, but I'll post the quote anyhow.


Character One: "How you doin?"

(pause)

"Whatdaya say I buy you a cup of coffee?"


Character Two: "Yeah, sure. Let's go."


Character One: "Follow me."

Friends ... the movie.

Friends ... the movie.

I didn't realize they had made a movie version. But I never watched the show so I never kept up on what they're up to.

In any case, Friends it is not. (The movie I am quoting is a one word title though)

Next clue:

The film I quoted from was released in 1995

The film I quoted from was released in 1995.

Aha! Thank you. I had an idea what it might be, and was about to ask you for a hint via the release date. And indeed, the one I'm thinking of was out in '95. I might have this one cinched, yet again...

Heat.

Pacino meets DeNiro.

Aha! Thank you. I had an idea what it might be, and was about to ask you for a hint via the release date. And indeed, the one I'm thinking of was out in '95. I might have this one cinched, yet again...

Heat.

Pacino meets DeNiro.


Bingo. ding ding ding !

I only quoted the very short traffic stop scene as I think the dialogue from the next scene in the coffee shop would have been too obvious.

The remote is yours, Chris.

-Jon

Sorry guys, it's been a very busy past couple of days, but I'll have a head-scratcher for you in the morning.

Hey its been a couple of weeks and chris is a busy man so i don't think he'll mind if i pick this one up and dust it off.

This is a tricky one, i think its only for the hardcore film buffs but it was a great film and its a long quote.

"I was called to the bathroom at the cemetery to take care of something. I walked in the bathroom, and in the middle toilet right there... somebody didn't s##t in the toilet, somebody s##t on the toilet. They s##t on the wall, they s##t on the floor. I had to clean it up, man, but before that, for about 10 to 15 seconds man, I just stared at somebody's s##t, man. To be totally honest with you, man, it was a really, really profound moment. Cuz I was thinkin', "I'm 30 years old, and in about 10 seconds I gotta start cleaning up somebody's s##t, man."

I might be wrong maybe it'll go pretty fast.

Andy.

I cheated and looked it up. I won't spoil it for everybody, but I gotta ask, is it a good movie? I'm always looking for something new to rent.

Thanks Andy for rescuing this thread -- it's true that I got snowed under with work and just couldn't get back into this. I appreciate the revitalization here but I would like to ask that from here on out let's keep it relatively clean, please. The occasional *** word is fine once in awhile but I'd prefer that we keep this thing from getting vulgar with every other word in the line. Thanks in advance,

Yeah Chris fair enough didn't mean to lower the tone, its just that its probably the best quote in the film and it will most likely resonate with just about every filmmaker at some point or another (big clue by the way).

Mark, this film in my opinion is one that we all should watch so i suggest renting it, its a crazy film but worth a watch.

Andy.

No takers?. here's another more well known quote from the film

"It's alright, it's okay, there's something to live for... Jesus told me so!"

If you've seen the film you will definitely get it from that.

Andy.

Is it Dogma?

sorry Jeff good guess but its not quite as mainstream as that..

Okay here is a realy obvious clue, the plot is about a guy trying to get his movie made.

Hopefully that helps if not i'm all out of clues so the next clue will be the name of the film.

Andy.

The film was 'American Movie', i'm surprised it didn't go considering the high number of American members here at dvinfo.

Anyway first come first served, its up for anyone who has a quote so fire away

Andy.

OK, this one should be easy... who knows.

"This ending’s silly. Why would the courtesan go for that penniless writer?"

Unfortunately, I know this, My wife loves this movie and I can't stand it, I still can't believe she dragged me to the theater when this came out, talk about torture, Mulon Rouge. Not sure if I spelled it right?

You are correct, Mark, except for the speilling (Moulin Rouge). It is definitely a love it or hate it kind of movie, but I happened to love it.

Your turn.

"I've never heard of half of these guys and the ones I do know are way past their prime.
Most of these guys never had a prime.
This guy here is dead.
Cross him off then."

This movie is one of my all time favorites. This should go very quickly.