If more people shot what they wanted ... and not what the bride thought was best ... we might all be making more money + better products. Think of it like Independent Film vs Studio ... alil more Trainspotting if you know what I mean mate.

In the end, funders select what feature films going to be made, you only make just what you want if you're spending your own money.

If more people shot what they wanted ... and not what the bride thought was best ... we might all be making more money + better products. Think of it like Independent Film vs Studio ... alil more Trainspotting if you know what I mean mate.

I think that's putting the cart before the horse. Making better products doesn't always mean making what 'we' want to make. Better products means making things that other people want to buy, and that's how you get to raise prices. Some people want Short Form, others want Documentary, some want both. The two are not mutually exclusive. They both need to be high quality.

And of course, we serve the customer. The customer doesn't serve us.

(Some) Brides only THINK they want something because they don't know differently. Its OUR job to educate them with all the options.

"(Some) Brides only THINK they want something because they don't know differently. Its OUR job to educate them with all the options."

Sooo true Aaron. I can't count the number of times I've witnessed a client re-formulate an opinion about something during their consultation with me.

I actually give the bride the choice between a conventional video camera (Canon A1) and a DSLR (7D and 60D). I show her sample videos of both. She chooses the dslr EVERY time (at a higher price). So in fact, she is "choosing" which camera she wants me to use for her wedding.

We have always had an array of tools to work with to put out a product. I don't see DLSR/large sensor camera shooters bashing the ones that are using anything BUT a large sensor camera. I don't see how it gives anyone the right, to bring down someone shooting with a camera, different than the one you/anyone is shooting with. If your shooting with an XHA1, don't smash someone for shooting with a DSLR because you don't like the image. Like Michael stated earlier, his brides simply choose the look of the 7D over the A1 footage. He's giving them the choice and it's clear to him which one they choose. Is it because it's a fad? Maybe. But how many people in the world are making their bread and butter, on todays fad or hot ticket item? It's called business. If your not offering what's hot, you may be missing out on potential clients. Not because the want the 5D, or the 7D, but if they see your video shot with a large sensor camera, 8 times out of 10 they will favor it. They don't know what it's shot on, they just like the 'look'. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, but offering a higher end product isn't a bad thing. If your trying to defend which camera will be around in 10 years, guess what? We'll all be wrong! I personally like the shallow-er depth of field, low light capabilities that a large sensor camera offers. If you personally like the look of a fixed lens camera, than by all means keep shooting with one.

I think it's a matter of using the tools you feel comfortable with. I can understand the need for filming in low light levels and many other factors.

The very shallow DOF is an aesthetic decision,perhaps giving an element of glamour to the event. However, this shouldn't get confused with the story, which can be told with a wide range of cameras.

I suspect using DOF to direct the audiences attention can be a bit of the red herring, because they often tend to scan the people who are talking or moving rather than necessarily the sharpest part of the frame. However, this doesn't mean that losing focus is good practise, but this may explain why people may get away with it. Poor sound is another matter and you can't get away with that.

... do I get the feeling that this forum is filling up with DSLR wedding shooter issues/questions?

...there seems to be a lot of DSLR technical issues discussed here that should be in the 7D or Canon forum and not in the wedding and events forum?

Technical questions about DSLRs belong in our DSLR-specific forums.

This particular board -- Wedding / Event Videography Techniques -- is
about wedding and event videography techniques *only.* We've had a bit
of a problem with wedding filmmakers and videographers using this board
for just about any old thing, including DSLR questions. Please, use the
entire DV Info Net forum system. EOS 7D questions belong in the EOS
7D forum, etc.

It's not just DSLRs either, but audio questions, etc. I realize that you're
here because you're a wedding shooter, as I too once was. But think: are
you asking a general question that's probably better served on one of our
other boards? Keep in mind that the *entire DV Info Net forum system* is
a wedding shooter's forum. Not just this one board. The whole site here
belongs to wedding shooters.

I've been out of town for the past two weeks, so this thread got a little bit
out of control. If you see a problem with rudeness, trolling, etc. then the
way to handle it is *not to respond to it* but rather to *use the report post
function* which is the little "!" icon to the left of any post, and we'll evaluate
it and clean it up if necessary.

For everyone: just because a person presents a point of view that is opposed
to yours or does not reflect the status quo, does *not* mean they're trolling.
Thanks for understanding,