View Full Version : saturation of cineform


Justin Lovell
February 21st, 2011, 08:08 AM
I'm in need of a more saturated raw image for telecine work. Problem is that scanning a flat negative film strip with a flat camera yields a really difficult image to saturate. If i saturate it once, render that, then saturate the rendered image i get very goos, clean results. If i just really saturate the source image, it get very digitally noisy.

two looks might do it. one at the top for applying a look before saturation. and another look that could be applied down stream.

or a .look that could be created like the candy color look, but even more saturated

can you do that?

Any other suggestions?

Mike Harrington
February 22nd, 2011, 12:28 AM
Possibly you are getting the clean result with double application because the wavelet encoding is doing a slight denoise to the image on re-encoding (which it does....slightly)
(also if your using film scan setting for cineform....you will preserve a lot of the grain of the film, which might be a good idea, but you may have to remove later)

if thats the case you may want to pump up the saturation to where you want it the first time around and run some noise removal
Neat Video - best noise reduction for digital video (http://www.neatvideo.com/)

the product looks cheesy...but i know a lot of compositors who have licenses for the foundry's $4000 noise removal plugs, and will use this instead

Justin Lovell
February 22nd, 2011, 05:19 PM
Thanks for the tip.

Unfortunately, I'm dealing with quite a bit of footage that I'm scanning in everyday, and to add one more render process would really kill our workflow. Cineform's metadata work is incredible, just to have a little more control over the saturation without having to re-encode would make a huge difference.

Also - some secondary saturation controls would really beef up first light.
Individual color saturation... we want it!