View Full Version : Release cadidate for v5.3.1


David Newman
February 20th, 2011, 12:42 PM
This is the release version probably be officially released on Tuesday. As there is a holiday Monday, nothing is likely to change between now and then. Let us now if they are any big things broken, but I expect you will find this a very solid release.

Neo3D http://cineform.com/downloads/Neo3Dv531b303-110221.zip
Neo4K http://cineform.com/downloads/Neo4Kv531b303-110221.zip
NeoHD http://cineform.com/downloads/NeoHDv531b303-110221.zip
NeoScene http://cineform.com/downloads/NeoSceneV531b303-110221.zip

Build 5.3.1.303, released 22-February-2011
Added: support 4444 (alpha channel) sources to use FirstLight and Active Metadata corrections.
Added: support for r408/v408 decodes with alpha channel.
Added: support for 3D corrections for interlaced sources.
Added: support for framing corrections for interlaced sources.
Added: Alpha channel exports from Premiere Pro CS5.
Added: some .3dl support for the LookInstaller.
Enhanced: 100+ generations quality for 16-bit pixel formats.
Enhanced: 2D source can now be used in 3D productions.
Enhanced: the 601 to 709 math use for Canon DSLR video conversion.
Fixed: QuickTime 444 export pop-up window has been restored.
Fixed: QT encodes from RedcineX where missing metadata needed for FirstLight keyframing.
Fixed: DPX2CF filename length issue. Very long filenames wouldn't load.
Fixed: ParseCFHD tool to work with 3D uncompressed CineForm sources.
Fixed: a startup condition made adding keyframes to a new clip in FirstLight weird.
Fixed: Cut and paste of Keystone and DepthTilt in Neo3D's FirstLight.
Fixed: a Premiere CS5 crash.

Leo Baker
February 20th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Fixed: a Premiere CS5 crash. Which crash was fixed?

Thanks,

Leo

David Newman
February 20th, 2011, 07:00 PM
We found and fixed few issues with the Premiere plugins over the last few weeks, but I don't have details.

Axel Mertes
February 21st, 2011, 01:39 AM
Hi All,

I can only recommend that new build, the enhancements are well worth it. Boundaries have been pushed once more.

Congratulations to David & the Cineform team for this important build,

Axel

Leo Baker
February 21st, 2011, 06:25 PM
I am still gettingthe crash in Adobe Premeire pro using a Cineform preset using the latest RC. Reported it to Jake a few months ago.

I nest clips on my timeline, then I add a transition then Adobe Premiere pro cs5 crashes.

Faulting application name: Adobe Premiere Pro.exe, version: 5.0.3.0, time stamp: 0x4ce382d1
Faulting module name: CFRTPlayback.prm, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x4d5f5c53
Exception code: 0xc0000417
Fault offset: 0x000000000002ba74
Faulting process id: 0x9b0
Faulting application start time: 0x01cbd2253669ad31
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\Adobe Premiere Pro.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\Plug-ins\Common\CineForm\CFRTPlayback.prm
Report Id: ddf0c22e-3e18-11e0-b6b3-0022643237f0

Thanks,

Leo

David Newman
February 21st, 2011, 06:41 PM
We haven't yet looked into the nesting issue, I have also reproduced this. For now either don't nesting or use the desktop preset.

Ryan Gard
February 22nd, 2011, 03:29 AM
Please...PLEASE can we fix the nesting issue soon! I posted the bug many months ago and it adversely affects my workflow. The work-around causes major slow downs that would not be necessary if this one issue was fixed. I know I'm only one person, but this bug has to be the most detrimental that I have experienced in Cineform and my editor is really fed up with the issue. (I can understand why) I understand that features are the name of the game when it comes to software, but quality features are what keep customers happy.

David Newman
February 22nd, 2011, 01:25 PM
The nesting bug just went away (not a single code change on our end.)

Test now and fast if you want this in the pending release.

http://miscdata.com/temp/CFRTPlayback.zip

Unzip and replace in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\Plug-ins\Common\CineForm

Ryan Gard
February 22nd, 2011, 02:14 PM
Okay, I will test tonight to see if it works.

Leo Baker
February 22nd, 2011, 02:58 PM
The nesting bug just went away (not a single code change on our end.)

Test now and fast if you want this in the pending release.

http://miscdata.com/temp/CFRTPlayback.zip

Unzip and replace in C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS5\Plug-ins\Common\CineForm

Hello David,

I just tested nesting and adding transitions, all works perfect thank you! What was the fix?

Leo

David Newman
February 22nd, 2011, 03:02 PM
Adobe SDK, its sample code had the bug. Updated the SDK.

Leo Baker
February 22nd, 2011, 03:11 PM
That is great news! Thanks for the fix it's much appreciated.

Ryan Gard
February 22nd, 2011, 09:17 PM
Links are broken.

David Newman
February 22nd, 2011, 09:48 PM
beta is over.

The release is available through normal channels, although we have detected an issue so hold off 24 hour if you can.

David Newman
February 22nd, 2011, 10:53 PM
New patched releases for everything uploading now, ready in about 30 minutes. Request your download link through Cineform (http://cineform.com)

Jon Sands
February 23rd, 2011, 05:55 AM
Hello, I'm trying a trial of neo3d. Whenever I export a file out of premiere cs5, when I use the "cineform avi file" preset, when I click export it tries to export then windows pops up the message "cfrenderproc has stopped working" and of course the export fails. In premiere if I choose to just export a normal avi file and choose cineform as the encoder within that, it works just fine.

Is this fixed in the build linked above? I can't tell because I just went to the cineform site and it sent me the download email, however the link it sent me for neo3d windows links to a broken 3mb archive.

David Newman
February 23rd, 2011, 08:56 AM
There is a typ-o in the download link for Neo3D. It is 531 not 513. That will be fixed when we get into the office.

Jon Sands
February 23rd, 2011, 05:14 PM
Ah, thank you!

Justin Lovell
February 23rd, 2011, 07:05 PM
BUG!

I have 2k footage from si2k. Opened in FL and it shows a purple 1 pixel bar down the right hand side of the image.

If I zoom to 1.0002 it will go past it, but it also shifts the color correction.

David Newman
February 23rd, 2011, 07:17 PM
Don't get that here with my SI footage.

Justin Lovell
February 23rd, 2011, 07:24 PM
very strange..

I'm looking through all the footage that I scanned with the SI around that time, and it is only one project that has the bright pink line on the right side of the image. Hmm.. wonder if there was some kind of sync issue on those files to cause this.

Mike Falconer
February 24th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Page is closed. Can't access.

Justin Lovell
February 25th, 2011, 09:32 AM
5.3.1 bug FL:

If i change the zoom up 1.0002 + the exposure on the image shifts.

David Newman
February 25th, 2011, 07:33 PM
Justin,

We made made that much better. It is cosmetic bug in that it will not impact output quality of rendering or playback, however it is annoying. It mostly impacts re-framing with a LUT applied. It is not new, been there ever since we added zoom. As I'm on a quality kick (got the 444(4) codec running to 1000 generations and still looking awesome), I decided to look the FL preview bug.

Here are the latest Decoder components used by FirstLight, Premiere, Vegas etc.

http://www.cineform.com/downloads/CFHDDecoders.zip

Unzip and replace components in
C:\Program Files (x86)\CineForm\Tools

Jon Sands
February 26th, 2011, 07:00 AM
David, the premiere pro bug I talked about on the top of this page still exists with this latest release. Any idea what could be going on?

Leo Baker
February 26th, 2011, 07:14 AM
Hello David,

I am converting Panasonic p2 hvx200 footage shoot at 720p. Anytime Iuse HDLINK to convert these into Cineform I am on Windows 7 pro, using Neo 4k latest build I downloaded form the Cineform website yesterday Neo4K v5.31 build 304 - CURRENT VERSION 5.

The p2 files convert using HDLINK, when I play them back the audio is normal speed, but the footage itself is playing back x3 faster as if it is being fast forwarded???

Thanks,

Leo

Gary Brun
February 26th, 2011, 08:21 AM
I have tried everything... but can not for the life of me find out how to export as an alpha file with Prem CS5 and Cineform.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

David Newman
February 26th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Jon,

No other reports, so you have a support issue, likely not a bug.

Leo,

Nothing changed in HDLink, support ticket please.

Gary,

Its seems something has broken with PPro alpha export. I put it on the list.



As this thread describes an older build, please post it new threads.

Gary Brun
February 26th, 2011, 01:47 PM
Thanks for the reply David.
Just sent through a bug to cineform support with a small video file.

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Chris Barcellos
February 26th, 2011, 02:34 PM
I loaded the beta a couple of days back, per the link in this thread, and I started having playback issues with newly rendered files on WIndows Media player. I would bet an error message about "com support". Last evening, I was still having issues, as I was sorting through archived films that were archived in Cineform AVI., and I had problems playing back some of those. I uninstalled this version, and reinstalled a version in had on board from November. Seemed to resolve playback issues.

Matthew Amirkhani
February 26th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Hi David,

Today I updated my Neoscene to v5.3.1. I tried to use it but after 5 seconds got error messages.
Here is what I tried to do in HDLink:

Capture option:
Automaticelly connect to CineForm Avi
Split on Scene change.

Errors messages:
Error connect pin sample rate cl Encoder 0x80040207 The owner SID on a per user subscription dosen;t exist in RT capture conver. cpp at 973

I never had this issue before therefore I unstalled and went back to the older neoscene build. I also tried to submit a ticket but I can't remmember my password and I am still waiting for Cineform to sent me my password email!!

Thanks
Matthew

Leo Baker
February 26th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Hello David,

I have just submitted a support ticket about the Panasonic mxf p2 issue. I also got the render problem when I tried to do an direct export in Premeirepro cs5 withthe render process crashing. I was able to sue the Adobe Media encoder queue, however on this new build I not seen this problem. But I will keep trying to get the crash to see if it is something in a paticular project.

Leo

Lloyd Coleman
March 2nd, 2011, 09:30 PM
All is working well for me. Thanks for the continued updates.

Gary Brun
March 4th, 2011, 12:25 PM
I really need ro be able to export the cineform alpha.
Do you know when it will be fixed?

Thanks

David Newman
March 4th, 2011, 01:59 PM
It is fixed, but not related to this thread. Please contact support.

Gary Brun
March 5th, 2011, 03:46 AM
OK... thanks David.
(Im sure the alpha chaneel was mentioned in this thread) :-)
Will do.

Brett Munoz
March 29th, 2011, 09:37 PM
I am getting the nesting issue with the march 15 release. The cfrtplayer.prm appears to be the cause.

David Newman
March 29th, 2011, 09:43 PM
We contacted Adobe about this.