View Full Version : 32GB SxS Pro vs. (for almost the same price) 64GB SxS-1
Malcolm Hamilton February 17th, 2011, 10:07 PM Hi there,
I'm thinking of getting another card. I see the 32 GB SxS Pro card is a little under $800, and the 64GB SxS-1 is a little over $800.
I've not strayed to SD cards because some posters on this forum continue to insist that SxS is the most dependable, and I'm happy to go along with that. But is the SxS-1 inferior to the SxS Pro?
Thanks for your advice,
Malcolm
Ahmad Husni February 17th, 2011, 10:47 PM I have use the 64Gb SxS-1 for a month now, currently owning SxS-1 32Gb (the old one), SxS Pro 16Gb and 8Gb. The new SxS-1 G1A have faster data transfer than SxS Pro, 1.2Gb/s vs 800Mb/s. Can spot the difference in the transfer, every little speed helps, I get 30-35Mb/s constant on my Vista laptop. The SxS-1 is claim to have 5 years of life if every day been recorded at full capacity and transfered. That is already good to me, I didn't shoot everyday, I guess mine guess could survive up to 10 years.
I choose 64Gb because I still feel my footage are best safe in the card itself, rather than transfer to my laptop and backup to an external HDD, and I'm still dreaming to get the PMW-500. A single 64Gb is sufficient for my ENG 3-5 days shooting. So for the purpose of my work, SxS-1 and SxS Pro get the job done, but I find SxS-1 delivers more value to me. I wouldn't sum it up by saying SxS-1 is inferior to the SxS Pro.
Dave Gosley February 18th, 2011, 06:15 PM An interesting thing, being able to run 3 - 5 days of ENG shooting (non repeatable events) onto one card and reluctance to backup to a computer..
I run 3 x 8GB and 1 x 16GB SxS Pro cards and I back up to a computer at every given opportunity, in fact I am soon to buy a macbook pro 15" with an SxS socket built in specifically for in-field backup.
Not sure how I'd cope with all a weeks shoots on a single card if that card went iffy for whatever reason. I tend to finish a shoot and transfer immediately. I am tempted by the cheaper card options, but have not yet had the courage to try them. Not had any problems so far with the SxS Pro sticks iether.
Ahmad Husni February 18th, 2011, 09:27 PM Didn't mean I didn't transfer it. I still transfer all my footage by the end of the day, but without formating it when I have the 64Gb on my hand, and this is when I think I still have sufficient space to shoot on the next day. What I mean is I believe my footage are safer in the SxS more than my 4 years old laptop and the portable HDD. If I still have my other SxS to spare, I'm not formating the card at all until my next job. :-)
Dave Gosley February 19th, 2011, 05:34 AM Sorry - I apologise, it was your comment "I still feel my footage are best safe in the card itself, rather than transfer to my laptop and backup to an external HDD" that I took to mean you preferred to have your footage on the card rather than transfer it to more robust storage media and therefore didn't. If you are backing up the card you are doing as much as most of us are doing.
If you are worried about HDD reliability in the filed you could try a solid state hard drive or a DROBO to backup to, depend on what you've got as power sources available to you. I backup to a 5 year old dell laptop that has a raid 0 array on it - so it's not by any means the safest to backup to (probaably the worst as I am relying on two hard drives being stable instead of one) but I still trust it sufficiently to wipe my cards and start again mid shoot..
That said, I am in the market for a good s/h macbook pro which I will probably stick a solid state drive in and have a safety external solid state drive as an addition in field.
Sony have recently offered £80 ($130 todays rate) for an 8GB stick surrendered to them against the purchase of the new 64GB stick - which sort of mmakes it more attractive.
Ahmad Husni February 19th, 2011, 07:20 AM No worries. Should have explain it much clearer. That offer is attractive, wish we could have the same here.
David Morgan February 19th, 2011, 12:05 PM Everything I've read about the difference between the PRO series is the number of write cycles. You can look it up to get the figures but S x S-1 will last for years. I use (2) 32 gig cards myself.
Malcolm Hamilton February 19th, 2011, 04:09 PM Sony have recently offered £80 ($130 todays rate) for an 8GB stick surrendered to them against the purchase of the new 64GB stick - which sort of mmakes it more attractive.
Hi Dave,
Would you mind providing a link to that deal? It might just cause me to push the 'buy' button...
Regards, Malcolm
Steve Siegel February 19th, 2011, 05:38 PM Interesting thread, but can I change the direction a bit? I am (very, very reluctantly) about to make the jump from tape to solid state. Can anyone recommend a light weight, reliable way to save 10 or 15 hours of memory card footage while out in the field. I dread carrying another 10 lbs of baggage as laptop, and hard drive, and reader and power source, as well as copying and reformatting cards before getting home and really reviewing the footage. Tape is so easy, so cheap and so convenient. Oh well, that's progress.
Dave Gosley February 19th, 2011, 06:07 PM Sure, these two are offering the deal sponsored by Sony: http://www.cckmedia.co.uk/ /
Sony SxS Trade-In Promotion - News - Proactive (http://www.proav.co.uk/news/na160.aspx)
Is a good deal - I have three 8GB cards and would like the 64GB's but I still can't afford it - don't need it badly enough..
Dave Gosley February 19th, 2011, 06:19 PM Interesting thread, but can I change the direction a bit? I am (very, very reluctantly) about to make the jump from tape to solid state. Can anyone recommend a light weight, reliable way to save 10 or 15 hours of memory card footage while out in the field. I dread carrying another 10 lbs of baggage as laptop, and hard drive, and reader and power source, as well as copying and reformatting cards before getting home and really reviewing the footage. Tape is so easy, so cheap and so convenient. Oh well, that's progress.
I had a Canon XL-H1 for a while that I hooked up a FireStore onto. When I found it was lacking in space I changed the hard drive to a 320GB which gave me about 11 hours. I guess I limited myself to the 11 Hours whatever it was by choosing the 320GB drive, if I had gone bigger...?
Maybe the same could be done with the Sony PHU 120K - it is a hard drive inside it..
Could also consider solid state replacement in the same unit?
You would of course have to forget any idea of warranty..
Bill Ward February 19th, 2011, 07:32 PM One of the Nexto units?
Steve Siegel February 19th, 2011, 07:55 PM Yes, Nexto looks like a perfect solution. It isn't large and he fact that you can quickly review footage removes a lot of anxiety.
Malcolm Hamilton February 20th, 2011, 02:14 PM Sure, these two are offering the deal sponsored by Sony: CCK Media Technologies (http://www.cckmedia.co.uk/) /
Sony SxS Trade-In Promotion - News - Proactive (http://www.proav.co.uk/news/na160.aspx)
Is a good deal - I have three 8GB cards and would like the 64GB's but I still can't afford it - don't need it badly enough..
Thanks Dave. Unfortunately, I live in Canada, and I don't think I can get that rebate here.
Malcolm
Dave Gosley February 20th, 2011, 03:06 PM I went and checked the online claim form - it only lists European countries, thats a real shame..
Mark Slocombe February 20th, 2011, 06:14 PM An interesting thing, being able to run 3 - 5 days of ENG shooting (non repeatable events) onto one card and reluctance to backup to a computer..
I run 3 x 8GB and 1 x 16GB SxS Pro cards and I back up to a computer at every given opportunity, in fact I am soon to buy a macbook pro 15" with an SxS socket built in specifically for in-field backup.
Not sure how I'd cope with all a weeks shoots on a single card if that card went iffy for whatever reason. I tend to finish a shoot and transfer immediately. I am tempted by the cheaper card options, but have not yet had the courage to try them. Not had any problems so far with the SxS Pro sticks iether.
Dave, where do you get a macbook pro 15" with an SxS socket built in? Is it brand new?
Dave Gosley February 21st, 2011, 03:18 AM From a source I know and trust well on Apple kit, the 15" macbook pro has had an SxS slot for years, until 12 months ago when they took it out. However all is not lost - apparently the 17" still does have one, so I will be purchasing a 12 months plus old macbook pro 15 or a newer 17" - not sure yet but I really like the idea of slapping prem pro on it so I can edit before getting back to the studio..
Clark Cooper June 9th, 2011, 12:59 PM Yes, Nexto looks like a perfect solution. It isn't large and he fact that you can quickly review footage removes a lot of anxiety.
Steve, the Nexto DI units are a dream to use. The NVS2500 (500GB) stores approximately 20 hours of XDCam EX footage. And if you want to remove even more anxiety, you can simultaneously backup to both the Nexto and another hard drive at the same time. Though in my experience the Nexto device has rejected every Windows and Mac drive I've attached to it — until I format it fresh with the Nexto (FAT32, I believe).
Philip Howells June 12th, 2011, 09:49 PM Going back to the original thread we use three 64Gb cards for our 3-EX1R wedding shoots.
Unless the shoot is remarkably long, we don't need to use the second card (32Gb in each camera). Not having to worry about changing tapes/CF cards (as we did when we used MRC1s) is great.
Jim Stamos August 14th, 2011, 08:12 PM phillip, the 64gb cards are 950.00 now, not sure if theyre the ones that dont have the 5 year limit or not. have you had any issues with them? i was only able to get 2 16gb cards when i got my ex1r a few months ago. but i need more storage in that i shoot alot of weddings as well and 2 16s dont cut it. id be better off going for the 64 at this price rather than 2 32s at 750 each
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