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Alan Emery
November 23rd, 2011, 02:40 PM
Hi Ron,

Your frustration is coming through loud and clear. I remember feeling the same way. So I dug out the pieces and stuck them together again to see if I could figure out what I had done previously.I did some experiments and if the HV40 and HV20 work the same way and if there is nothing wrong with your cam, cable, or nanoflash, this worked for me and might work for you.

Some obvious stuff first. Nanoflash set to HDMI source. HDMI cable stuck in the IN socket of the nanoflash (I have made this mistake or I would never have been so bold as to mention it)!

I plugged everything in and turned it all on. No source message.
I turned the camera off an on. No source message.
Leaving the camera on I turned the nanoflash off and on. No source message.
Leaving everything turned on I unplugged the HDMI cable at the nanoflash, then plugged it in again. Hooray I got the HV40 to come through.
Leaving everything turned on I unplugged the HDMI cable at the cam end and then plugged it in again. Once again the source connected.

It would appear, at least in my case, that the key is connecting the cable with everything turned on. It doesn`t work if you switch the cam or the nano off and on. It only works by plugging the last connection of the cable in after everything else is connected and turned on.

Hope this helps,

Alan

Dan Keaton
November 23rd, 2011, 03:39 PM
Dear Allan,

Thank you for your assistance.

Since I have never personally had any trouble using the HV30 with the nanoFlash,
I wonder if something in the HDMI circuitry of the cameras changed from the HV20 to the HV30.

Ronald Jackson
November 23rd, 2011, 05:13 PM
I've actually got it working. The key with me seems to be turning the Nano on (i.e. connecting the power cable) and then, just as the bar appears on the LCD, switch the camera into record/tape mode.

A couple or three things though:

1) The Nano records the screen display, which it does not when used with my XLH1. Need to turn this off.

2) No audio. Presumably there are both camera and Nano specific settings for this.

3) My remote control cable (purchased from NanoFlash.net and until now unused) only works intermittently.
I needed to jiggle, pull etc etc the connection between the cable and the socket on the Nano but so unreliable I detached and instead changed to using the Record/Stop buttons on the Nano which worked okay.
A nuisance this as you need a full set of fingers or even two hands to use Record/Stop.

(Maybe I need to send the cable to C.D. for a check out. I use the remote socket without any problems with the C.D. timecode cable with my XLH1)

Dan commented about poor low light performance of the HV20 and I can confirm this on what was a gloomy day, gain nearly everywhere and the effect of this seems to be exacerbated with the Nano and its high bit rates.

Ron

Dan Keaton
November 23rd, 2011, 05:42 PM
Dear Ron,

You need to turn off the viewfinder data so it does not go out the HV20's HDMI output.

You need to check the Audio Menu on the nanoFlash.

You probably have do not have the Audio Source set to Embedded for your HV20.
The setting for your XL H1 will be different since the XL H1 does not have audio embedded via HD-SDI.

If the Remote Control is not working properly, then nanoFlash.net will replace it.
Please contact me so we can diagnose the problem.
Is the plugged into the Remote Control connector securely, The collar may not be pushed forward.
Please note, please do not attempt to force it.

Alan Emery
November 23rd, 2011, 07:00 PM
Hi Dan,

I have two nanoflashes. The remote cable works on one of them and does not work on the other. Not sure what this means regarding Ron's inconsistent remote cable but just an observation.

Hi Ron,

You should not need to record on the cam in order to record onto the nanoflash. There is no way to get the cam to trigger the nano through an HDMI cable. If you want a backup, then running the cam at the same time as the nano is a good idea, but it should not be necessary. Also the HDMI should carry both video and audio if it is getting to the cable. So Dan's suggestion of checking the the cam audio menu is a good idea.

Alan

Dan Keaton
November 23rd, 2011, 07:27 PM
Dear Alan,

Thanks.

Just to be clear, I was speaking of the Audio menu, specifically the Audio Source menu item in the nanoFlash.

I edited my original post to be clearer.