I have put up my Vegas 9 license for sale in the classifieds.

What is the consensus on Vegas 10? Am I mistaken, or is there less than usual discussion about this upgrade than previous versions?

I edit straigforward corporate and wedding videos, and doubt that I'll benefit from any of the changes...how does it perform in timeline performance with m2t files compared to Vegas 9....about the same? I imagine rendering speed is about the same...am I right?

Overall, I like 10. Yes, there's some bugs - but any software of this size will have some bugs. I know they are working on the next update. But there's many new features - probably my favorite is the new OpenFX plugin API which really expands the capability and variety of plugins once manufacturers start supporting it. We've already seen updates from NewBlueFX and BorisFX and I would expect to see others available going forward.

Thanks Edward.

How is timeline peformance vs 9? How about rendering speed?

Anyone tested it, is it pretty much the same for m2t files?

What excactly does the much touted GPU accelerator do to improve things?

The speed is about the same for me - most of my stuff is DV, though. Other formats (like videos from still cameras) got a huge speed increase. I haven't seen anything get worse - speedwise - in what I've done.

The GPU Acceleration is only available when rendering to the Sony AVC renderer. There is no GPU acceleration during preview.

Edward, what is Sony AVC? I imagine if I don't know what it is I don't need to know, but I'm curious. Is it a consumer version of AVCHD, or what? Or the Sony version of AVCHD?

File - Render As - then pick Sony AVC as the file type. Click on "Custom" and you can see the GPU option listed in the "Encode Mode".

I just test out a 1 minutes video clip render Sony avc. I rendered 2 exact clip, one render with CPU only and the other with GPU encoded. With GPU option, it renders almost 1 minutes faster. I was expecting way faster. My PC is i7 920 6gigs ram. Nivida GTX260 card.

My first series of projects on v10 have involved lots of greenscreen compositing of Canon 5d clips over large jpgs. I've been very pleased with the increases in timeline performance for the dSLR clips.

Not being yet involved in 3D, for me v10 has been a quiet but effective upgrade. Haven't cut any hdv with it, haven't yet done any AVC renders, but I'm sure I will.

Render speeds VS v9 seems similar. The nice thing is it works pretty well on my desktop with mov native from 5D2. IT is a little slower in my Alienware laptop. However I m getting this black screen problems which my clips playback as black screens. IT happens for both previews and sometimes on the timeline. works at first then after some editing it plays a blank screen!

Not sure if there is something wrong but my desktop is indeed a little cranky. I'm going to observe if the same happens on the Alien laptop.

It is ironic that I would first read about the most serious issues the day after I sold my Vegas 9 license...in this and other threads.

On the other hand, at $149 for the upgrade I would have to buy it now anyway. I'll be leaving vegas 9 on my workstation until 9.b comes out, if not c. The first release of an upgrade is always buggy.

It is ironic that I would first read about the most serious issues the day after I sold my Vegas 9 license...in this and other threads.

On the other hand, at $149 for the upgrade I would have to buy it now anyway. I'll be leaving vegas 9 on my workstation until 9.b comes out, if not c. The first release of an upgrade is always buggy.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding things, and I personally don't care, but I don't think Vegas licensing works that way (e.g., you can't sell your CDs/license and keep the software on your box, and for that matter, sell your license and just keep the upgrade). But then again, I'm probably clueless about these things.

Quote: "...and I personally don't care," If you don't care then you wouldn't have posted.

I can legitimately upgrade AFTER I sell my license, and yes technically I should remove it but since I'm upgrading who really cares? I called Sony and they laughed. The rep promised no one would come and arrest me.

You can legally sell your license for older copies (and keep the upgrade). However, if you upgrade to 10 and sell your license for 9, you cannot legally keep 9 on your machine. Sony is very lenient in letting you sell your older, NO LONGER USED, versions.

Quote: "...and I personally don't care," If you don't care then you wouldn't have posted.

I can legitimately upgrade AFTER I sell my license, and yes technically I should remove it but since I'm upgrading who really cares? I called Sony and they laughed. The rep promised no one would come and arrest me.

Actually, I can easily not care (who does and doesn't have a legit copy) and post anyway because I ended up learning something about Vegas licensing in the process (which helps inform what I may or may not do, which is something I do care about). And BTW, this is why I explicitly used the words "I think" and "I'm probably clueless."

Well, you learned something, and so did I.

While Sony may be a little more liberal than most, please take care to note this is not typical in my experience as a LAN Admin. Most upgrades are sold as EXTENSIONS to the existing full license, thus not separable. Otherwise they would likely never sell a full license. Generally, you must have owned (and retain) an originating full license at some point. Full can many times include upgrade rights from software bundled on a PC, such as as upgrading from Dell (OEM) install of Windows 98 to Best Buy retail purchased upgrade to Windows XP.

Also, software such as Adobe bundles, while they allow for two ->non-concurrent use<- installs, cannot be broken out among more than those two machines. You cannot say buy the bundle and sell the Illustrator to a friend and keep the rest.

With OEM, CPU based, volume, lease/rental and other forms of licensing, this whole area gets way more complex than can be covered in a discussion post.

While it's true the software police likely won't come to your home for a one-off sale, pretty much everyone on this board creates intellectual property. If you don't respect other's IP rights, why should anyone respect yours?

I feel duly chastized, and acknowledge that I am a horrible person.

If anyone else feels the need to address this, email me personally, but please don't waste more forum time on this. I'm SO sorry I even mentioned it.

Just curious. If I started with 9, then upgraded to 10 and sold my copy of 9 to someone else. If I had fatal crash and had to reinstall, would I be able to reinstall with just the v10 install discs? Once I upgrade, do I get a full license on 10 such that 9 literally doesn't matter or isn't needed to get back to a full install of 10?

Bill, the answer is yes. If you have the 10 installer and a 10 serial number, you can install and activate without needing 9 - even if it was acquired as an upgrade.

Do note that if you sell your 9 license after using it to upgrade, the person purchasing it will NOT be able to "upgrade" - if they want 10, they'll pay full price.