View Full Version : NewBlue Stabilizer question


Harry Simpson
September 3rd, 2010, 04:26 PM
So I had to shoot an event with no tripod and i knew I'd be buying Stabilizer so I went to their website and bought it - After getting the footage onto the timeline in probably 15 clips, I added the stabilizer to the entire track and realized I didn't have a clue as to how to set the parameters so I went to help and like the second line in the help says
"Note that this version of Stabilizer is not optimal for Vegas Pro. If you are running Vegas Pro 8.0 or higher, please install Stabilizer Pro."
So I'm running this in Vegas Studio 10 HD - is that ok for "this version" of Stabilizer? I went to the web site for NewBlue and couldn't even find a Stabilizer Pro - wtfwt?
Then I tried to fill out a help ticket and after loging in and filling out every required field it kept popping up a message saying I must complete ALL required fields. ARGH!!!! their web site sucks!

I had bought a lot of their FXs like a few weeks before I upgraded to 10 from 9 only to find these FXs included in the upgrade.

I'll assume they say PRO they dont mean Vegas Studio 10 HD

Craig Longman
September 3rd, 2010, 04:46 PM
I'm not sure what Stabilizer Pro is, but I'm just curious, did you find the v10 built-in stabilization just not good enough? For any particular reason?

Don Bloom
September 3rd, 2010, 10:50 PM
Harry sorry to hear about the problem but I have to say I've had nothing but great sucess with NewBlue customer service. I had purchased a plugin about a year or so ago and had a problem getting it to load up so I filled a ticket and they emailed back with in a few hours, eventually we worked on the phone as well and got it taken care of with in a very very short time. Maybe give them a call?

Roy Alexander
September 4th, 2010, 03:19 AM
I am using VMS HD 10 PLATINUM and it has its own stabiliser which works well. I to could get no sense from Newblue about their stabiliser and eventually gave up on it.

Edward Troxel
September 4th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Stabilizer Pro requires Vegas Pro 8 or Vegas Pro 9 because it uses scripting to perform the analysis process.

For Vegas Movie Studio versions (and older versions of Vegas Pro), you must use "Stabilizer" which does not need scripting. Stabilizer performs the analysis process on the fly when playing back the timeline or rendering. Stabilizer Pro has an "Analyze" button which starts a script to preform the analysis process.

So, yes, the "Pro" version will not work in any of the "Movie Studio" versions.

Harry Simpson
September 4th, 2010, 10:00 AM
Where is stabilizer built in to VMS HD 10 PLATINUM?? You mean I blew $100 for nothing!! I'm looking in the FXs and only see the NewBlue Stabilizer I bought. What's it called?

Mike Kujbida
September 4th, 2010, 10:52 AM
Right-click on the event and select "Stabilize Media".
You can see a video describing it on the Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 10 Video Editing (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope/videoediting) page.
It's the second item listed on the Vegas Movie Studio Release Notes (http://sony-090.vo.llnwd.net/dspcdn/releasenotes/moviestudiope100_readme_enu.htm) page.

Harry Simpson
September 4th, 2010, 12:48 PM
Thanks Mike!

in the Read-Me and the Promo site for the procuct - two places i never visited. I was looking in the FX list.

So the next question - does this work well?

Mike Kujbida
September 4th, 2010, 01:57 PM
Sorry Harry but I use Vegas Pro and have never used any stabilizer product (paid or free) so I can't comment on its quality.

Bruce Phung
September 4th, 2010, 05:25 PM
I am sharing my experience in regard to stablized video. I am using Vegas pro and I have spent probably more than 8 hrs of trying varies setting in VirtualDub and not able to find the correct setting. Although I have seen some impressive sample destablized footage in VirtualDub.

Today I download a trial version Vegas 10 platinum, just want to test out their bundled NewBlue stablized feature is awsome and easy to use. The only problem I am having is the stablized footage caused video quality degraded. My testing footage is Cineform AVI was beautiful, after destablized the video is not so beautiful any more. I just want to know anyone else encounter video quality loss after destablized??

Robin Davies-Rollinson
September 4th, 2010, 05:37 PM
You will experience quality loss when stabilising due to the image being enlarged somewhat to hide the jiggling edges caused by the stabiliser

Bruce Phung
September 4th, 2010, 06:21 PM
I am sharing my experience in regard to stablized video. I am using Vegas pro and I have spent probably more than 8 hrs of trying varies setting in VirtualDub and not able to find the correct setting. Although I have seen some impressive sample destablized footage in VirtualDub.

Today I download a trial version Vegas 10 platinum, just want to test out their bundled NewBlue stablized feature is awsome and easy to use. The only problem I am having is the stablized footage caused video quality degraded. My testing footage is Cineform AVI was beautiful, after destablized the video is not so beautiful any more. I just want to know anyone else encounter video quality loss after destablized??



I start to like it. Here is what I find, NewBlue stablizer stablized my video footage fine. I compared the stablized video and the source on the timeline, the quality is very good, I am satisfy with it. I don't know what happened or what setting I have on the above statement about video degradation. Now is is just as good as the original video. I am very satisfied.

Craig Longman
September 4th, 2010, 06:26 PM
I start to like it. Here is what I find, NewBlue stablizer stablized my video footage fine. I compared the stablized video and the source on the timeline, the quality is very good, I am satisfy with it. I don't know what happened or what setting I have on the above statement about video degradation. Now is is just as good as the original video. I am very satisfied.

Bruce, do you mean the built-in Stabilizer in VMS v10, or the NewBlue separate, purchased plug-in? I ask, only because you mention downloading v10 to test it, but you refer to the NewBlue one in your assessment.

Bruce Phung
September 4th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Craig.

I am trial the built-in Stabilizer in VMS v10.

Roy Alexander
September 5th, 2010, 02:45 AM
I have used the stabilizer built in to VMS 10 platinum as I stated in my earlier reply. If there is any degrading of the image I have not noticed it enough to detract from the enjoyment of the video content. It is far more distracting to me to have a jumpy image. To me anyway, HDV is so far better than SD that a slight degrading of the image still results in a much better image than SD. I take the view that if you use the stabilizer feature on the complete video, there is no other image for the viewer to compare with and so it is accepted without comment. Furthermore I believe that content is more important than image quality. Of course if you can achieve both good content and good image quality then you are onto a winner and it should be the aim of your video and film making.

Edward Troxel
September 5th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Today I download a trial version Vegas 10 platinum, just want to test out their bundled NewBlue stablized feature is awsome and easy to use.

Just to clarify things... the stabilizer bundled in Vegas Movie Studio is NOT the NewBlue stabilizer. It is based off of Mercalli.

Mike Kujbida
September 5th, 2010, 07:03 AM
If anyone is interested, Mercalli recently released version 2 of their stabilizer ($200) and reports so far are very good.

Mercalli V2 (http://www.prodad.com/home/products/videostabilizing/300391667,l-us.xhtml)

Roy Alexander
September 5th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Take note Mecalli V2 does not work with any VMS versions. It only works with Vegas Pro.

Harry Simpson
September 5th, 2010, 10:02 AM
Welp the Vegas Movie Studio Mercalli stabilizer worked great cept that it cropped my video down in size so about 20% of the outer frame was lost. I had to remove it. The NewBlue stabilizer seems to distort too much too. Course this probably is my inexperience with the features too....but I've only a limited amount of time to to get workable workflows down...

Bruce Phung
September 5th, 2010, 11:22 AM
My test footage has lower 3rd and after destablized, the lower 3rd gone. So it is best not to have any text on it if you gonna destablized it. Add any texts afterward.

Roy Alexander
September 6th, 2010, 02:15 AM
If it's any help to the contributers of this thread who have had bother with the stabilizer programme of VMS10 Platinum, they may be interested in my findings. I too found that the stabilized clip was very much magnified and couldn,t be used. I had used the selection of Intense analyze and thinking that this was the reason I tried again and selected Hand Held Camera analyze but it made no difference to the amount of magnification. I then noticed that before the selection began a notice asked me if I wanted to create a subclip. I accepted the offer and not only was the time taken to stabilize drastically reduced, the resultant magnification was unnoticable on the treated clip, and while the big shake wasn't completely gone, the treated clip was highly acceptable with almost 100% shake free.

Harry Simpson
September 6th, 2010, 09:18 AM
Roy,

<<create a subclip>>

Saw that but had no idea what that meant - did it create a new file? I've read and printed out the help files and they are just not very in depth.

Roy Alexander
September 6th, 2010, 10:26 AM
Harry. The procedure I used was to place the clip to be stabilized on the timeline and then copy and paste it onto another track. Click onto the copy clip and select yes to making a sub clip, I chose the general analyze. When finished the stabilized subclip is automatically placed onto the project panel. From there you can drag in onto the timeline. You can of course just select the original clip without making a copy. I make a copy so that I can drag the stabilized copy onto the timeline next to the original and this way I can compare the two clips. You can then save the stabilized clip onto the hard drive and insert into your video when ready by cutting out the original clip and replacing it with the stabilized one. If you stabilize the original clip then no new clip is placed on the project panel but the original shot itself is stabilized. If you are not happy with the result of the stabilized original clip you can de-stablize it. I hope this may be of some help to you.

Harry Simpson
September 7th, 2010, 11:31 AM
Thanks Roy,

I'll have to try that. So the subclip resulted in no magnification/cropping?

Roy Alexander
September 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Harry. There must of been some cropping because that's the way the stabilizer works, but it's not enough to be noticable. Make sure you do not select intense stabilization as that makes heavy magnification.