View Full Version : Someone needs my EX! footage for FCP. Need help.


John Peterson
August 30th, 2010, 06:42 PM
I edit using Sony Vegas on a PC, but someone in California who uses FCP asked me for some EX1 footage I shot and I am not sure how to send it to her.

The BPAV folder is around 22GB and I have it stored on my hard drive. How can I get the footage to her for her to edit in FCP?

Thanks for the help.

John

Craig Seeman
August 30th, 2010, 08:07 PM
Burn BPAV onto Blu-ray data disc and ship overnight. That assumes person has a Blu-ray drive.

Otherwise put BPAV onto an external hard drive and ship overnight.
Macs can read both FAT32 and NTFS formatted drives although they can only write to FAT32 without additional utility but that's shouldn't be important.

Craig Seeman
August 30th, 2010, 08:11 PM
Use ClipBrowser to split BPAV into sizes that will fit into DVD-R data discs. ClipBrowser has a function that does this. Use good Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden discs. You'll need a bunch depending on how they're split but I trust this more than hard drives personally.

Dean Harrington
August 30th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Get a storage site that will allow you to upload and then, have her download from there! Or use DropDMG and make 4 gig segments and burn and send on regular DVDs if you don't have blue-ray.

Perrone Ford
August 31st, 2010, 12:31 AM
Or go buy the cheapest SDHC 32GB card you can and send on that. Lot's of ways around this problem.

Dean Sensui
August 31st, 2010, 12:38 AM
Get a compact Firewire drive from Other World Computing or a G-Drive and put the footage on that.

She can send you the drive back after the footage is transferred. I do this when collaborating with other editors. Faster than burning discs. And I use the same drives for field work, too.

Dean Sensui
August 31st, 2010, 12:41 AM
Come to think of it, Perrone's idea is better.

SDHC is almost bulletproof. And you can just stick it in an envelope. Cheaper than boxing up any kind of HDD.

And if you get a good SDHC card, you can use it in your EX1 with the MxM or MxR adapters.

Perrone Ford
August 31st, 2010, 03:18 AM
The nice thing about the SDHC... if they don't send it back... well ok. If I sent someone a g-drive and didn't get it back I'd be PISSED!

Craig Seeman
August 31st, 2010, 05:15 AM
32GB SDHC cards ranging from around $70 for bargain basement to just over $200 for something you'd trust in an EX camera. A cheap external hard drive can come in at less that a cheap SDHC card. Then again shipping an SDHC card is going to be less.

I'd love to FTP files that size if only clients had the bandwidth and services handled things larger than 2GB chunks.

John Peterson
August 31st, 2010, 06:28 AM
Thanks for all the replies. Very much appreciated.

Since this is a "favor" at my own expense and she doesn't have a Blu-Ray drive I think I will split it into multiple 4GB files and send it on a stack of DVD-R discs. I'll check out DropDMG as Dean H suggested first.

Thanks again.

Regards,

John

EDIT: It appears that DropDMG only works on a MAC so that's out. I have a PC and she has the MAC.

John Peterson
September 1st, 2010, 05:39 AM
It turns out that she only needs the footage for a web video.

Is there a format I can convert it to using Clip Browser that would be smaller and that she could use in FCP to make her web video? I also have Sorenson Squeeze and Procoder 3.

Thanks,

John

Craig Seeman
September 1st, 2010, 06:19 AM
Personally I think 35mbps is very small.
Without guidelines from her, anything smaller could become a major headache depending on what she's using to edit it. I don't consider "the web" as something that justifies taking something through another round of heavy compression. These days YouTube offers up to 1080p and Vimeo 720p.

Craig Seeman
September 1st, 2010, 06:23 AM
Please re-read my post August 30th, 2010 10:11 PM. Please re-read Sony's info about ClipBrowser. It can split BPAV sized for various disc formats.

Thanks for all the replies. Very much appreciated.

Since this is a "favor" at my own expense and she doesn't have a Blu-Ray drive I think I will split it into multiple 4GB files and send it on a stack of DVD-R discs. I'll check out DropDMG as Dean H suggested first.

Thanks again.

Regards,

John

EDIT: It appears that DropDMG only works on a MAC so that's out. I have a PC and she has the MAC.

John Peterson
September 1st, 2010, 07:23 AM
Thanks Craig,

She just sent me an upload link to her boyfriend's website. Not sure if it will accept a 22GB file.

The problem I have is that I don't use FCP or a MAC and know nothing about them. She doesn't need the entire BPAV folder. Only about 3/4 of it has what she wants. So this can be made smaller.
I can load the BPAV folder into Clip Browser and pick out what she wants in the folder, but then what do I convert it to that will open in FCP on her MAC?

John

Perrone Ford
September 1st, 2010, 07:28 AM
I haven't done this before, so I am just going through my ClipBrowser.

Open your BPAV in ClipBrowser > Clip > Split Folder > Select option > Start.

Looks pretty straightforward.

Olof Ekbergh
September 1st, 2010, 07:36 AM
To FTP 22GB wil most likely take a few days, and then she has to download as well.

The best thing is like Craig says copy the BPAV folder to a cheap HD USB or Firewire, and have her buy it or send it back to you. Or you could use a couple thumb drives or SD/CF cards by splitting the file as outlined above.

Then send her a link to download Sony's SW.
Sony | Micro Site - XDCAM EX (http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/micro-xdcamexsite/resource.downloads)
or
Sony of Canada E-support (http://support.sonybiz.ca/esupport/eSupportHome.asp)
or
Sony : XDCAM & XDCAM EX Software Downloads : United Kingdom (http://www.sony.co.uk/biz/content/id/1237477930789/section/product/product/xdcamcamcorders?preserveContext=true)

John Peterson
September 1st, 2010, 07:36 AM
I guess BPAV would be the best for FCP then.

I'll split it and upload the resulting folders containing what she wants. Thanks for the help.

Regards,

John

John Peterson
September 1st, 2010, 09:01 AM
Turns out the maximum upload size is 1GB.

Here is what I did:

Using Clip Browser:

1. I created a new folder

2. Selected the clips that I wanted

3. Copied and pasted them to the new folder (BPAV folders are automatically created.)

4. Split the folder into 4.7 GB sizes.

5. Ended up with 5 folders that I can burn to 5 DVDs.

Question: Which program will burn data dvds that can be read on both a PC and a MAC.

ImgBurn?

Thanks,
John

Olof Ekbergh
September 1st, 2010, 10:51 AM
Any program, will do. If you can read the DVD on a PC you can read it on a Mac.

You may have to make the files a little smaller like 4.3GB to actually fit on the DVD's. But maybe not, just don't be surprised if the 4.7 does not fit.

But this system will definitely work.

John Peterson
September 1st, 2010, 01:11 PM
Thanks for all the help everyone. I sent her 5 DATA DVDs created with RecordNow Max with instructions and she is very happy about what she will receive thanks to all your helpful suggestions.

Regards,

John

Gints Klimanis
September 1st, 2010, 01:46 PM
Thanks Craig,
She just sent me an upload link to her boyfriend's website. Not sure if it will accept a 22GB file.
John

No way. You would have to archive it and split it into parts. That's not even mentioning the reliability of the upload and download let alone the time required to upload. I doubt you could upload so much data in less than a few days unless you have a corporate Internet line.

(EDIT) delted misinformation noted by Perrone

Perrone Ford
September 1st, 2010, 02:04 PM
For a web video product, just export your files with ClipBrowser to a lower resolution/bitrate to MXF.

This won't work cross platform.