View Full Version : Final Cut Express vs Pro for Cineform


Anmol Mishra
August 20th, 2010, 03:08 AM
At time, I am using iMovie fora rough cut and then using XML import to prevent rendering the files.

I do not foresee using any effects, and the Cineform Color corrector is fine for me.

Hence, I would like to stick with FCE.

Are there gotchas about working in FCE with Cineform ? I will simply export the iMovie XML and open it in FCE to preserve the iMovie basic edit and then use FCE to render.

David Newman
August 20th, 2010, 09:13 AM
I don't believe FCE works with any outside codecs -- camera native only.

Anmol Mishra
August 20th, 2010, 06:08 PM
So FCP is the only option for MAC Cineform-native editing ? Is there any other NLE ? PPro ?

David Newman
August 21st, 2010, 09:44 AM
On Mac OSX Media 100 is native CineForm, and PPro CS5 support is only week aways with betas in a few hands already.

Anmol Mishra
September 10th, 2010, 02:35 AM
Hi David. So the only options on OSX for native CF editing are CS5 Premiere Pro, CS5 After Effects, Final Cut Pro and Media 100.
Am I missing something here ?

David Newman
September 10th, 2010, 10:23 AM
That is pretty good already, but it also works in tools from iMovie to Iridas Speedgrade, and just announced at IBC DaVinci Resolve now has native CineForm support (2D and 3D.) The only two tools not supported are the intentional closed Apple apps, FCExpress and Color.

Anmol Mishra
September 10th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Hi David. iMovie transcodes to AIC irrespective of the codec that the raw footage is in. iMovie definitely does not have a Cineform workflow.

David Newman
September 10th, 2010, 10:32 PM
There is way to make iMovie work, I seen it working without a transcode. Although it may not have been the latest iMovie, maybe 08 or 09 worked. If iMovie is important to you (really?) contact support.

Craig Davidson
September 13th, 2010, 10:29 AM
You can leave the clips in CineForm format in iMovie '09. When you import a movie, uncheck "Optimize video..." and just "copy" the files. After copying the files iMovie creates a motion JPEG thumbnail, but the source is still CineForm. I just tried a clip which was in 3D. On a 13" Macbook Pro, it drops frames under QuickTime, FirstLight or FCP, but plays smoothly in iMovies since iMovie requests a lower resolution decode.