It would be great if anyone could share some information on how to get Virtual PC to recognize the firewire ports on my Quad G5. Thanks.

Alright, heres the problem fixture.

Basically it was a windows update issue, I got it fixed simply by updating my PC with all of the windows updates available, I am not specifically sure about which specific update fixes the problem, but I am 100% sure that this problem is caused by an old version of Windows.

So if you have this problem, please update your version of windows and it will be fixed!

Cheers.

I tried that, too, first thing. It didn't help me at all.

I tried that, too, first thing. It didn't help me at all.

Are you 100% absolutley positivley sure that your Windows version is updated? I am not the one who programmed the Preset Manager so I can't advise you on the technical aspect but it was a lack of Windows updates that did the trick for me.

Yes, I am 100%, absolutley, positivley sure that my Windows version is updated. As I said, that was the first thing I did after Steve made the suggestion last week.

Shervin, I owe you and apology.

Honestly, I did run an update. Something told me to go back and try again. For some reason SP2 had not gotten loaded. I ran another update and it started loading SP2 and, yes, that did fix the problem.

Again, I apologize.

So much for being 100%, absolutley, positivley sure!

Hey Jay,

Everyone makes mistakes my friend, no need for an apology, even if they are 100% absolutley positivley correct!

So I guess that this concludes that the problem with the run time error when loading your presets on your camera is due to an old version of windows and requires a complete installation of all windows updates.

Thank god! :-)

I have used it and love it.

I am curious how the XL2 responds when in Ext. Ctrl mode. I had the software connected through firewire and also had the XL2 connected to the production monitor via S-video. It appears that in EXT. CTRL mode acts like it is in auto mode. I played with changing settings on the fly and updating the presets and the camera would update and reflect the changes as I submitted them from the software.

However the XL2 defaults to 4x3, 60i and autogain and who knows what color balance.. The changes I made looked different when I went back to manual mode. Unfortunately this makes on the fly adjustments impossible from the software, unless someone else has an idea to work around this.

Other than that it is a great tool.

Was anyone able to figure out how to get the preset to stay the same anytime the knob is switched back to the Manual mode??

Hi Everyone,

Just a quick question, I have searched the threads and havent found the answer yet. Has the Blue Barn software been updated for Mac yet? Or has anyone out there used it on an Intel Mac through boot camp?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Tom

i've been having an issue using the blue barn manager. i installed it correctly (as far as i know), but when i hook my camera up the system and try to pick a preset (or whatever), there's a short delay and then a window pops up indicating an error's occured. then, the whole site shuts down. i've read over a couple of threads where people have talked about having this exact same issue and they discovered the problem was that they realized they hadn't let the blue barn driver know it could install on their camera, so they updated this to remedy the problem.

does this mean anything to you guys? have no idea what i may need to update, but i'd really like to figure it out so i can start messing around w/ blue barn.

thanks.

PD

does this mean anything to you guys? have no idea what i may need to update, but i'd really like to figure it out so i can start messing around w/ blue barn.

PD

Peter

It simply means that you need to do WINDOWS UPDATE on your PC. This can be done by clicking on START then CONTROL PANEL. From the CONTROL PANE, click on AUTOMATIC UPDATES. Then click on Windows update website link to open the Microsoft Update site to do the updates. Make sure you have online connection. Don't forget to restart your PC after updating.
Connect the firewire cable, switch your XL2 to EXT. CONT. mode and then start the Blue Barn Manager. Have fun.
Eb

eb,

followed your instructions. turns out my microsoft already automatically updates my computer every night. still, i restarted my computer (just in case), connected my camera, turned it to EXT CONT, and opened up blue barns. same thing. well, this time i was actually allowed to save custom settings, but the site would still shut down if i tried to choose one of the presets (1, 2 or 3) at the top of the page. this may be because i am not fully understanding what the manager is supposed to do for you, but i have to manually type in each setting before saving it. i can't (unless i'm doing it wrong) download custom presets from my camera to blue barns, or vice versa. at this point, it works only as a glamorized presets folder. i still have to manually type a custom preset into my canon if i want to mess with it. argg!! earlier, someone had mentioned uninstalling, then re-installing the file. i guess i'll give that a try.

thanks for your advice. if any other ideas pop into your head, or something i'm doing in the paragraph above strikes you as incorrect, please let me know. would love to get the most out of this manager.

PD

Had another thought Peter.

How many firewire ports do you have on your computer and how are they configured (i.e. are they built in or or fitted in an expansion pci slot at the back of your pc ?).

Maybe you could try a different firewire port if you have more than 1. I know you're able to use the XL2 with other software using this firewire port, but some software code acts differently in how it reads external interfaces etc. An example being the Canon Console software. It kept saying my XL2 was not connected, yet I could connect to Serious Magic's DV Rack and Sony Vegas 6 capture software using the same port. I had three seperate firewire ports in pci slots at the back of my pc. Changing to a different one resolved the issue.

Just another thought.

Good Luck.

Allan

Hey Ash,
I shoot football on a regular basis, so I've loaded what I believe is your "sports" preset onto my XL2, and I had a couple of questions about some of the settings in there. First of all I was curious why you reduced the "sharpness". Is that to improve motion? I had normally increased my sharpness slightly, so I found it interesting that you had it lowered. Second, I noticed that you slated that preset for 30p shooting. I'm not sure what kind sports you use that preset for, but do you find it difficult to follow the action with the stuttering that occurs in 30p? I've found it difficult to follow fast moving action such as the the ball in the air in 30 or 24 mode. Is it something you've just gotten used to? Thanks.

Dan--

Just thought I'd point out that a shutter speed of 60 Hz in 30p will give you a nice motion blur that will mitigate the "stuttering" of the motion somewhat.

Had another thought Peter.

How many firewire ports do you have on your computer and how are they configured (i.e. are they built in or or fitted in an expansion pci slot at the back of your pc ?).

Maybe you could try a different firewire port if you have more than 1. I know you're able to use the XL2 with other software using this firewire port, but some software code acts differently in how it reads external interfaces etc. An example being the Canon Console software. It kept saying my XL2 was not connected, yet I could connect to Serious Magic's DV Rack and Sony Vegas 6 capture software using the same port. I had three seperate firewire ports in pci slots at the back of my pc. Changing to a different one resolved the issue.

Just another thought.

Good Luck.

Allan


allan, thanks for the tip. i'll try that. if that doesn't work, i may have to just bury my head in my lap, sob, then get over it. quick question. what's the canon console software? i've heard a few people bring that up. do i need that for blue barn to work correctly?

Hi Peter,

No, you don't need Canon Console for the pre-sets manager. It's basically a piece of software that interfaces with the XL2 to give you control over many functions from the PC. I quite like it as at the moment, I'm useless at steady shots. Everytime I use the focus or zoom, I get quite a bit of jitter in the picture (even with the optical Image Stabalizer). Probably coz my tripod is crap :-)

A lot of my shooting will be tripod based so I'll invest in a good one. Having said that, the Console software gives you full control over a lot of parameters (focus, zoom, color gain, aperture, shutter etc, etc without touching the camera. I also capture a lot directly to pc, so the monitor and scopes in the software help me a lot. I use the camera a lot without the software, but sometimes, it's great for me to have for some of the work which means not having to go in the menu of the camera and set knobs and dials etc.

You can check out the software here and get a trial version:

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=165&modelid=10350

Check the minimum requirements before you install it because it is pretty CPU intensive. It's worth trying, but it's not for everyone.

Good luck with the pre-sets manager.

Allan

when i use this preset manager ,this is what happen :

run-time error -2147467259 (80004005)':

what this mean ?

First of all, thanks for your hard work on developing this application! I love the idea of software integration into a production workflow.
I think I've read through this thread pretty thoroughly, so forgive me if I missed the announcement...but has anyone managed to port this for OS X?

Just by an Intel mac and off you go!

:-)

I'm lucky enough to be travelling to Germany tomorrow to film the Old Timers Grand Prix at Nuerburgring. In fact I only found out half an hour ago so everything is a bit rushed!

My question is this: is the Sports preset going to work for motor sports or did you have field sports primarily in mind? I've been commissioned by a friend who wants a 'stylised' account of the event (in which he is a competitor), rather than a 'typical video' (his words). I clearly won't have time to make any tests, and as an absolute newcomer to the XL2 (four days) I was hoping for some suggestions.

Any offers? TIA.

Cheers,

Ian . . .

hey guys, im having a problem trying to install this.
after i click on the icon to proceed with installation after the bit where it gives you the option to change installation directory, it just hangs there- cpu sits on 100% and eventually just freezes.

any help would be greatly appreciated,

thanks in advance.
julz

Eventually I'll have an Intel mac-- but not in the foreseeable future...
Keep me posted on the mac version!!

Thanks!
~jeff

when i use this preset manager ,this is what happen :

run-time error -2147467259 (80004005)':

what this mean ?

Guys, its happen the same with me, it happen when i try to read the preset or try to load it to my xl2, after the run-time error occured, then the preset manager shut by it self.
for you to know, my xl2 is 'pal' version, while i read that most of you guys use the 'ntsc' version, are there any possibilities that this thing that make it happen..
any one can help us please..?
Thanks alot to you all..

Just thought I'd check.

Thanks,

Tim

Just thought I'd check.

Thanks,

TimCanon still hasn't released the Mac developer's kit, and at this point, I doubt they ever will. So, no. :)

I made sure my camera was connected properly and in the "Ext Cont" position, however when I tried to save the file to my camera, i kept getting runtime errors...

Can someone explain how I would place a file (Documentary.bbp) onto my camera?

***Update***
No driver installed, fixed it! Thanks me.


Thanks
Tim

Has anybody used the Presets Manager on an Intel Mac using Parallels or Boot Camp?

Obviously I'm referring to an Intel Mac running Windows

Canon had a Console demo on an Intel Mac during the XL H1 Road Show tour earlier this summer. I saw it up close and personal; it runs fine in that configuration.

Canon had a Console demo on an Intel Mac during the XL H1 Road Show tour earlier this summer. I saw it up close and personal; it runs fine in that configuration.
Was it running under Windows on the Mac, or natively on Mac OS X?

Okay, I've read nearly all 9 pages of posts in this thread and thought that I'd revisit a question posed earlier...

There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port. There are however several, if not close to all of them out there, that operate on a USB port. After searching around, I found a $40 USB/1394 hub at B&H.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=IOHFW3U4&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=370317

Now, does anyone know if it would be possible to connect the PDA to the Hub via USB, and the XL2 to the Hub via a 4 to 6 pin 1394 cable?

Now I know the one problem with this setup is that the Hub needs its own power supply. But if this setup would work, it wouldn't be the first time that I've bought a battery and cut off the 110 end of a power supply. Any thoughts???

Basically, I run a Mac system (non-intel) and don't have the resources to purchase a Wintel. The only thing I would use the Wintel for anyway is the preset manager, and if i can make it portable in an inexpensive way - all the better.

Has anyone actually loaded the program on a PDA? Does it seem to function except for the connection to the XL2?

Any and all feedback appreciated...

Kevin

***** EDIT *****

I think just answered my own question and I got too excited and posted too fast. It appears that to connect to the computer, you connect 1 1394 and 1 USB and the Hub expands each individually. The circuitry probably doesn't overlap (essentially 2 hubs in 1 housing). Does anyone know of a hub that you connect just a USB to and then can connect 1394 to the hub? Or am I simply beating a long dead horse?

Thanks again,
Kevin

Okay, I've read nearly all 9 pages of posts in this thread and thought that I'd revisit a question posed earlier...

There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port.

[...]

Or am I simply beating a long dead horse?


If it walks like a fish and talks like a fish... ;-)

Was it running under Windows on the Mac, or natively on Mac OS X?The Console demo on the Intel Mac I'm referring to above was running Windows XP.

And for Kevin:

Sorry but there's no such thing as USB to FireWire or vice versa.

Somebody needs to invent a FireWire-equipped PDA, but I doubt it'll ever happen.

While I was looking around for the elusive pda with firewire I did find this...

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGNUX280P

Made by Sony, PDA size, has firewire (with included port replicator)... but not PDA priced (1900 USD).

There was a comment about running the Preset Manager on a Windows compatible PDA, but the problem was that there aren't any PDAs with a firewire port. There are however several, if not close to all of them out there, that operate on a USB port. After searching around, I found a $40 USB/1394 hub at B&H.

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Has anyone actually loaded the program on a PDA? Does it seem to function except for the connection to the XL2?

Any and all feedback appreciated...



Hey Kevin,

I like the enthusiasm here. I had it a while ago when I went to some 3d modeling developers for a mobile 3d solution. Alas, since the Pocket PC PDA is a very different type of Windows, any program need to be compiled specifically for them (unless you run a Java applet). Unless Blue Barn or someone else compiles the tool for PPC, the firewire/usb issue is the least of the problems.

I hope someone figures it out though. I can't wait to try it. Anyone need a beta tester for this?

Maybe this has already been covered, but how exactly do I set the presets. When I select them in the preset menu I see the looks change, but when I back out of the menu my display goes back to normal. This is most apparent in the B&W setting on there. So is there something I have to do to enable my preset?

Use the buttons on the part of the camera near the tape door, on top, right next to where it says "eject" to select the custom preset you want, and turn it on or off.

When this thread popped back up I took another look at the Sony computer I mentioned earlier - the UX series - and it runs Windows Vista Business, not the pocket pc version. So the preset manager would work on this machine - alas, there is still the problem of the price tag...

is there a link to download collection of all the presents posted so far?

every link given earlier is this thread is non-existing now , any help would be great

thanks

is there a link to download collection of all the presents posted so far?

every link given earlier is this thread is non-existing now , any help would be great

thanks

Last post in this thread what you're looking for?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48293

Last post in this thread what you're looking for?

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=48293


yes ! but is there any other resource (link) where i can get more presets?

Nope, this is the best, most complete one on the web. What you need to do now is to create your own presets, and share them here, that way you're helping to build the collection.

GEE Canon. . .

It' only been 3 years now. . . ya got that Mac Version Done YET?

Jenny,

Stephen Duke is the designer (as I understand it) of the Blue Barn software.

its a great tool !!!! .. and i didnt had a PC with Windows XP on it either, but i got one from a friend and got a firewire card in it just to use this presets managers..... Jenny , i would suggest if you have space to keep a mini tower, look around on ebay or craiglist you might get a good XP machine under $50 ... its worth spending for a mangers like this !

GEE Canon. . . Canon had nothing to do with the Blue Barn Pictures XL2 Presets Manager. The Blue Barn Pictures XL2 Presets Manager was developed by Stephen Duke of Blue Barn Pictures, not Canon.

3 years now. . . ya got that Mac Version Done YET?It should be obvious by now that a Mac version is *not* going to happen, sorry. There is no Mac version of the SDK that made the PC version possible in the first place. And that's certainly not the fault of Stephen Duke or Blue Barn Pictures.

Hi,

regarding Presents.

I have been in trouble deciding what sharpness I should keep the presents at.

Of course different situations requires different presents, but I have been mostly filming for a upcoming doc,
and since al the shots aren't 100% certain to adept to the film, I have been trying some different presents.

Mostly I go with a tweaked DOCUMENTARY presents:

Gamma = Cine
Knee = Low
Black = Press
NR = 0
VDetail = 0
Color Matrix = Cine
Color Gain = 3 / 2
Color Phase = 2 / 1
Red = 2
Green = 0
Blue = 0
SetupLevel = -1
Sharpness = -3 / -2
Coring = 6
MasterPed = +2

Although I find many of my shots to be to saturated, this doesn’t come as a surprise but I find it hard to choose the right amount of colour, to much or a bit less?
Regarding the sharpness, I'm double, off course you want 35mm/digital cam sharpness, but often I feel that a bow +0 is leaning the image to artefacts (don’t know the proper word), lines appear etc. With sharpness brought down towards -2 / -3 there’s better regarding the lines. But should one go lower? Like -4 / -5?

Here I post some examples, 1 is a macro shot with tripod (somehow, I feel that the resolution appears higher with a tripod) with the 16X manual lens and al other shots are from the manual also. 2 is shot with in 4:3 mode and here I believe the sharpness and colour are working out fine. I will post some more later. I'm a student in film, there is much to learn. But any feedback is welcomed!

Please tell what gain and sharpness you prefer, it will really help me decide.
I also love the Blue Barn tool.

Best,
David

Wow, over three years and still going.

Jenny, Canon officially only released an SDK for the PC. They were working with a mac software house based out west for the mac SDK, and demoed it at NAB some time back, but as far as I'm aware it was never released. So, alas, I never ported the Presets App over.

If you are using a mac (like me), then (if it is an intel version), dual boot the system and run the presets software on the window portion (like me). You can also do this for the Canon controller software.

steve

Hello everyone!!
First post on a great forum!!!
Just purchased a Xl2 last week as an upgrade from a GL2 for shooting my highschool football games. As expected the footage was a bit "bland". I was going to try some different presets and then saw the Blue Barn Custom preset software. I had to download the manager a bit differently as I'm running Vista on my internet computer. I downloaded the manager and preset onto a flash drive, and then downloaded them onto my other comp which is running XP with SP3. Everything went perfect and the download to the camera with the manager and drivers was complete.

Now for the nubie problem.
How do I get the individual preset into the camera????? I've been following the manual on pages 70-72 and I must be doing something wrong.
On page 72 where it says to go to "read preset" I can't open that area of the menu. It is always the purple color which must mean that that particular function is not turned on.
For the life of me I cannot figure how do to turn that function on.
And then how do I download the preset into the cam?

I know that I'm just overlooking something simple, but then it's the simple things that baffle me!!!