Hi. I'm finally at a point in my life where I want to bring the dream of making nature films from the back burner to the front one.

I initially went to collage as a marine bio major, but left with a degree in journalism. I left the assignment desk in a TV newsroom, to get back to school to pursue a wildlife and conservation bio degree. I had some family issues that caused me to withdraw from school and I started a video production company.

Now, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to get into this field. I'm planning on relocating from Rhode Island to the Hampton Roads area of Virginia. I've been contacting TV stations and news contacts I have down there...but have never shot wildlife before and just want to go through the most effective process!

I welcome any advice you all can provide!

Thank you in advance!

~Miraj

Miraj,

Are you going to have your own gear or will you use a broadcast stations gear?

Are you going to focus on a particular area of wildlife?

Al

Your best bet is an internship/entry level position with a West coast or East coast company that specializes in natural history production. You also should immediately start shooting your own work in the area that interests you. As you know you are looking for a job in a very specialized and small part of the documentary world.

My opinion: First thing you need to do is make sure you're at a sufficient standard in terms of both working with animals and using a camera - a lot of people wanting to do this are woefully inadequate at one or both. This means knowing how animals behave and react to humans in their proximity and how to deal with them to allow you get close. And camera-wise this means being able to make steady, in focus shots with the 35mm equivalent of 1200mm lenses, on erratically moving targets - this is not easy, but it is essential.
The only way to do this really is to get out there and shoot. Ideally you'd do this on the sort of kit you'd hope to work with - so full-size broadcast video cameras typically at the moment. For this reason I'd say you'd be better off practising on an old DSR500 than a modern EX3 or the like. Working with a full size heavy camera set up on a big tripod is very different from a little EX3 with an 800g lens on a little Manfrotto head.

The other thing to do is to watch and study as many wildlife progs as possible. Take note of the sort of shots the camera team is getting - that's the sort of thing you need to be getting. If they're getting tight head shots of a certain species and you got out and only get tiny specks then you need to do something different. Then take note of what constitutes their sequences - shot size, variety, pacing etc., to get an idea of what you need to provide for the editor to make a sequence work.

Then haul your showreel around, offer to assist and do jobs for free, and try to be as friendly and amiable as possible.

Good luck.

Steve

Wow! You guys are awesome! Thank you so much for the advice. So much to consider. I have been obsessed with watching nature films for about 20 years, but haven't really, truly paid attention to composition and technique. I will continue to study as I take the advice I've been given. I'll also get out there and start shooting! Thanks again for your attention and advice!

Three words and an acronym: BBC Natural History Unit

Miraj: "I've...never shot wildlife before..."

I agree with Steve. No amount of textbook studies, courses or diplomas beats time spent working in the field. "The only way to do this really is to get out there and shoot."

I believe you will find everything you need on this amazing site:WildFilmHistory - Home page (http://www.wildfilmhistory.org/)

Interesting website, David. I'll have to find time now to visit it again and view more! :)

Dave thanks for the web site!!\\


Miraj,

Get out in the field and always take a camera anywhere you go!!! You just never know what you will come across!!!

One book worth getting at the library or buy would be "The Art of Photograping Nature"by martha Hill and photographer Art Wolfe. It in not a how to book but deals whith artistic aspects there of!

Hi Miraj

I'd also add to this. Film festivals and competitions. These are great platforms for you to get exposure, make contacts and start to get a career moving. From personal experience this has really propelled things forward for me this year!

Mat

Mat,

I would like to ask you to tell a bit more about this. I have more or less the same question as Miraj, but seem to be a few steps further in the process. Made a documentary a few years ago with a prosumer handycam and managed to get it broadcasted on Dutch national television. Shot a documetary about kingfishers with the same equipment, that has recently been published in conjunction with a photobook, and in cooperation with BirdLife Netherlands. However, I still consider myself as a starter, anxious to make a living out of it as a filmmaker/producer. What are the things you have done? What festivals and competitions did you refer to? What did it bring for you?

Maybe Steve Phillips can also add some advice to my questions.

Cees van Kempen

I think most of the wildlife film festivals take submissions from "beginners", so Wildscreen, Jackson Hole and the others. Cees it seems like you're heading in the right direction, now you have something to show producers, and if you have any amazing ideas they may take you up on them.
Assisting is also a great thing to do, though with shrinking budgets it might be something you need to do for little pay or for free. Best of luck.
Steve

Hi Cees
Steve certainly nailed it for me and certainly has lots of experience to back it up! The fact you've had material broadcast in some way must mean your getting something right. I'd be interested to hear more about the type of broadcast your films fell under?

Me...well I've recently been short listed for Wildscreen (BBC Newcomer) Wildscreen Festival 2010:*Home (http://www.wildscreenfestival.org/) - WIth a film I produced independently over the last 3 years. - You can see a thread for it further down in this forum.

After the nomination I was asked to assist on a number of shoots including one with the NHU and Chris Packham. I've now furthered one of the relationships and I'm now shooting a number of sequences for a BBC Natural world film. Its really a huge step forward to be involved in something of this profile and some of it is about meeting the right folks at the right time BUT...the spark was the nomination. I'm of course hoping to build more contacts over the festival week!

Best of luck
Mat

Dear Mat and Steve,

Thanks for your posts. Very helpful.

Mat: the film that was broadcasted (by RTL Netherlands) is a documentary I made, when traveling with my mate on an angling expedition in Ethiopia/Sudan/Kenya. We lived with a tribe, still hunting for crocodiles with spears. Though it was a fishing trip, I consider it more as an adventure/nature documentary. It is by the way not the type of films I intend to make in future. These will be 'true' nature films, like the Kingfisher documentary I produced afterwards.

I am trully interested in the perspectives of film festivals. Though my first movie was broadcasted and the second one became a succesful (independent) publication with a photobook, I still consider myself as 'beginner'. All has been done as a side activity and it is only this year I invested in more or less professional equipment. I have high ambitions in becoming a filmmaker/producer. The 'problem' is that I am owning a small management consultancy. At the age of 46 and having a family to support I do not want to give up my business, just following my boyhoods dream and without knowing where to go. So I intend to learn as much as possible about filmmaking and producing (techniques, markets, commerce etc.) for the coming years, hopefully to be able to make the switch. Any advice is welcom, and I might get back to you with more questions in time. For now, Mat, succes in Bristol next month!

Sorry Miraj for taking over the discussion with Mat and Steve. Hopefully it is for your benefit as well. I will draw back now.

Cees, might you be able to find a market making DVDs of certain subjects? This is certainly very doable these days and could be something you do when you have the time rather than doing full time.
As with a lot of jobs, doing it full time is often not as enjoyable as doing it for fun! You often find that you need to use bigger, heavier gear, shoot subjects that you're not that excited about and not have time to do other things you want to do. Not saying it's an awful job by any means, though!
Steve

Steve, Thanks for the suggestion. I believe you are right about dvd markets. it is actually what I did with the kingfisher project: dvd with book. It would actually be a good idea to try to sell it more internationally. Will do a search to find publishers/distributors in other European countries to assist me. I would also be very willing to send you a copy of the production if you let me know to where to send it (use my e-mail). (Same to you Mat). And about your remark that you do not always like the subjects to film when you do it fultime: that is one of the reasons to have the ambition to be producer at the same time. To create owm productions. I believe I am too self-willed to follow instructions :-) That is the route I like to work out and regarding the fun factor, I am very, very willing to take the risk of doing it full time.

Finally i am a member on here, as the topic is getting into wildlife films.

I have tried to look at this for past one year and have decided on making it with DSLRs , is it a feasible option to take making full wildlife films with DSLRs.
For Lenses i am talking about wide of 17 to a tele of 800 and 5D M II.
Have been impressed with the quality it produces, but have to agree to it that it is a big challange to film .

Wanted your advise on
1) Do you think its feasible to make a full Wildlife film with DSLRs
2) Market for them

This is a self funded venture and i am not yet into it full time , working on a day job and filming , editing , research and other things around it.
Planning to get into it full time but in few years time.
"Cees van Kempen" i read that you did work on a kingfishers film sometime back, thats the subject i am working on however am unable to find a field expert in it in India, making it a difficult job.

Would welcome all advice i can get on the above.

Thanks
Vishal

I think it just depends on what your standards are and what market you're aiming for. For broadcast it might be tricky as the codecs in DSLRs are not great. For wildlife shooting in general with telephoto lenses you may have big problems with rolling shutter skew making everything wobble. Also outdoors focussing via the LCD screen is going to be tricky. On the 5D there is no slow motion which for me at least rules it out completely - better going with the 7D as you get 720/60P and better telephoto reach.
On the other hand if that's your budget, then you'll end up with a film which otherwise would not be made.
Steve

Dear Vishal,

First of all I hope you make your dream come true. I have no opinion about filming a nature documentary with a dslr, since I have no experience with it.

It is not clear to me if you have any specific questions about the subject kingfishers for filming. If so, please let me know and I will try to give you any advice you need. (I was in Keoladeo national park in Bharatpur long time ago. Marvelous kingfisher paradise.)

Cees

Cees

The Kingfishers i am working on is the Oriental Dwarf Kingfisher , there is only a records of them visiting certian areas in monsoon but no records of them year around.
I am looking at someone whom i can discuss the Movement Pattern of these birds.

cheers
vishal

Very, very interesting subject, Vishal. Alas I cannot be of any help, I have no knowledge at all of this species. Good luck with your search and I would really like to know when your project is going to come to life.

Vishal,
It is a pretty colourful bird. It is a summer visitor along the base of the himalayas from NW Bengal, Assam, khasi hills.

Where did you photograph them in monsoons?

I am filming with a Mark IV, and can only say that it is not easy giving the handling quirks of the HD DSLRs vs camcorders.

Cheers,
Sabyasachi

Sabyasachi

We do find these birds in the Western Ghats, in the monsoons they come up the ghats to breed and in the other seasons they go down but always staying in the Western Ghats area.
The birds are silent in the non-nesting season and hence not very much observed, records show that the birds have been found in Summer in the lower reaches of the ghats around the Konkan area.

I have filmed them in the Western ghats top area in the monsoons, spent 13 weeks doing so to get some footage which is around 30 odd minutes with the birds. To get close to the bird imported a Nikkor 800 mm but then i could not trace the birds after that, Monsoons have been pretty heavy this time and the nesting records in most of the areas show damage to the nests due to excessive water.

I know its a amazing forest bird and will spend my years shooting this one to make a video on it.

Best regards
Vishal