Dear all,

I have a question regarding making of a DCP. I need a DCP of my short s3D film and since I have no previous experiences with making a DCP for 3D, I was wondering if You guys could recommend me some post-production companies that make 3D DCP for reasonable price?

I've heard that there is also some software which enables everyone to make a DCP from their home computers, but I don't know if it is really so simple. If that is true, does anyone know the name of particular software?

All your wise advices and help is much appreciated!
Rahela

The software options available that can accommodate 3D DCP usually starts at about $8000 US.
If you just have a short film it isn't worth it. If your film is 20 minutes or longer then it might be something to consider.

I've had DCPs done by Technicolor and Deluxe. Besides some confusion over colorspace/gamma the results were superb. Ideally you would provide DPX sequences in XYZ colorspace but I provided TIFF sequences in RGB at 2048x1080 (2K.) However, they can accept 1920x1080 and then format it correctly for the 2K DCP. Only 24P or 48P are acceptable as framerates for digital cinema packages. 25p, 60i and 30P will not work.

The only thing I would reconsider now is the "ghost-busting" pass for Real-D that had to be done at Technicolor LA or RealD. It was the turnaround time required for this part of the process that inspired me to write my own ghost busting plugin. However, most of the Real-D servers have now been updated to perform ghost-busting in real-time during projection so you don't need to make a special ghost-busted DCP for Real-D theatres.

What about opencinematools?
Anybody use it with success?

opencinematools - Project Hosting on Google Code (http://code.google.com/p/opencinematools/)

Dear Mr. Dashwood,

thank you very much for your reply.
My film is 15min long and was shot in HD. If it's not too much to ask, is it possible to find out how much would it cost me to have a DCP made by Technicolor or Delux?

Thank you very much!

15 minutes will likely cost $6000+ USD with a stereo soundtrack. You should call them for an exact quote.

Hi

Opencinematools have some success, sometimes it works flawlessly - sometimes it has problems. It is on only STMPE packing so Dolby 100 series players will not work with that.

My company does 3d DCP's both STMPE or interop packaging and 15min would set You back 960USD, if interested contact me off the list kaspar () digitalsputnik.com / but again if You do not have a budget but have time (to play with opencinematools) and have access to some cinema so You could test Your results (like a friend working in the cinema or just go and ask if you could try some test footage for 10min before the shows start in the afternoon) - it is an viable option.

Hope it helps...
-Kaspar

Is there any software for PC, that can playback 3D DCP to dual screen output?
Maybe Stereoscopic player support this? Any other?
What CPU is needed for smooth playback?

ExpressDCP in London can make a 3D DCP for something like £40 per minute.

Express DCP - Digital Cinema Package Encoding - Home (http://www.expressDCP.com)

We tried the open source route - it doesn't work. Alternatavely easyDCP costs like £3000.

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Hi there. This is David from ExpressDCP (soon to be Soho Digital Media). Thanks for mentioning us but you got our rates wrong. At the moment we're £14 per minute 2K and £23 per minute 4K / 3D. And that includes a QC session in our calibrated theatre. Please drop us a line if you need help with DCP encoding. And we can also do DVD and Blu-ray authoring.

Express DCP - Digital Cinema Package Encoding - Home (http://www.expressdcp.com)

check this, i use it, and work like a charm
DCP Pro from Inition (http://www.inition.co.uk/inition/dispatcher.php?action=get&model=products&URL_=product_stereovis_dcppro&SubCatID_=72&tab=blurb)

I apologize for resurrecting an old thread, but has anyone used this? FinalDCP. Magna Mana Production FinalDCP (http://www.magnamana.com/products/finaldcp/)

Works on Mac and apparently is retailed for only Euro 750,00 which is the best price I have seen on any DCP so far- but I think this has been *just* released or perhaps not released at all yet? Just curious as I have yet to try it.

Suggest you try openDCP here

opendcp - Open Digital Cinema Package software - Google Project Hosting (http://code.google.com/p/opendcp/)

and forum here:

OpenDCP (http://dcinemaforum.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0)

I'm trialling this at the moment, looks ok so far although still in development

Thought I would bump this thread since it's been over a year. Any new DCP software out there? Also, what is the feeling on 30 FPS DCPs?

30fps DCP?
is it a standard?
i know 24 and 48 fps, for DCP stereo, but not 30. where are you found this spec?

30fps DCP?
is it a standard?
i know 24 and 48 fps, for DCP stereo, but not 30. where are you found this spec?

I meant that I shot the source material at 30FPS.

It is done. You will have to do frame rate conversion first. I never saw it done without seeing judder afterward, but some LCD TVs do very good judder removal, so it can be done as well.

Thanks Pavel, That's the route I took. I converted the footage to 24p and submitted it for DCP conversion. The piece is playing a big screen at LA 3DFF next week so I'll get to see first hand how well the conversion went. I'll post my feelings on the results here.

Hey Jesse, Can you post when your piece is screening? I'm L.A.-local as well. If I'm free, I'd love to come check it out.

Jesse, I am interested as well. I just got an email that 3DFF will be screening couple of my videos on TV screens there. I am near there, so I was planning to attend at least some of it.

I'm going to be sitting on the Indie 3D panel which is Friday at 2:30 and my short will be showing at either the shorts 1 or shorts 2 program. I'll also be hanging out with the Robert Rig. Love to see both of you guys there.I think I have a couple extra passes. Hit me up if you need one. I have limited internet so the forum is hard for me to get onto. However, you can email me at jesseATgoatandyeti.com See you both this weekend!

I'm going to be sitting on the Indie 3D panel which is Friday at 2:30 and my short will be showing at either the shorts 1 or shorts 2 program. I'll also be hanging out with the Robert Rig. Love to see both of you guys there.I think I have a couple extra passes. Hit me up if you need one. I have limited internet so the forum is hard for me to get onto. However, you can email me at jesseATgoatandyeti.com See you both this weekend!
I hope the screening went well, Jesse! Sorry I wasn't able to make it. I would have liked to have heard what you had to say on Indie 3D, as well.

Reporting back on the 30p to 24p DCP conversion. The image looked great but was jumpy. No one in the audience commented or seemed to notice but I could certainly see it. I'm sure there's a way to do this and be successful. I pretty much followed the process outlined by Phillip Bloom except I used the speed up tool in FCP and turned the frame blending off to preserve the whole frames. I used a different method last year (I think doing a pulldown within AE) but can't remember exactly what I did. The results were better though.

Here's the link.

How to convert Canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p | Philip Bloom (http://philipbloom.net/2009/05/30/how-to-convert-canon-5dmk2-footage-from-30p-to-24p/)

Otherwise the festival was pretty cool. I certainly enjoyed seeing lots of other 3D buffs and seeing my own work up on the big-screen is a real kick.

Jesse,

Is the list of the 3DFF award winners published somewhere?

IMHO any conversion will degrade the the video. I will only deal with 60p from now on, Don't want to ever deal with de-interlacing. Actually, any editing will first internally deal with progressive image - fields or frames - then re-interlace the results, if needed. If I were to do primarily movie screen work, I'd work in 24p (native, none of the pull down stuff). TV will handle anything well enough, so the only decision would be the primary target - movie screen or computer screen. Movie screen is more revealing as well.

Reporting back on the 30p to 24p DCP conversion. The image looked great but was jumpy. No one in the audience commented or seemed to notice but I could certainly see it. I'm sure there's a way to do this and be successful. I pretty much followed the process outlined by Phillip Bloom except I used the speed up tool in FCP and turned the frame blending off to preserve the whole frames. I used a different method last year (I think doing a pulldown within AE) but can't remember exactly what I did. The results were better though.

Here's the link.

How to convert Canon 5dmk2 footage from 30p to 24p | Philip Bloom (http://philipbloom.net/2009/05/30/how-to-convert-canon-5dmk2-footage-from-30p-to-24p/)

Otherwise the festival was pretty cool. I certainly enjoyed seeing lots of other 3D buffs and seeing my own work up on the big-screen is a real kick.

every convertion is bad, specially from 30 to 24, too much frame rate difference.
If you can, is better to shoot at 25 and slow down to 24, you can see on audio the lowering of tone, but nothing about visual.