Randall Leong
July 18th, 2010, 08:24 PM
This is important. In fact, I can no longer recommend most of the Antec-branded gaming cases because they are cramped on the inside even though they look big on the outside (specifically, the permanently-integrated drive cage gets in the way in those cases, and the cases can barely fit a typical X58 motherboard as a result). With my Nine Hundred, I had to completely remove the motherboard just to connect additional internal SATA hard drives to the front-edge-mounted ports. And it offers barely enough room (length-wise) to comfortably fit my current HD 5770 in there without having the cables and connectors bent or pinched by the card and case.
Looking at photos of the insides of a Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP, I can all but promise that it won't cool hard drives, under a load, nearly as reliably as the Antec Nine Hundred (or Twelve Hundred). The Antec Nine Hundred's hard drive cages are somewhat unique in their design, essentially insuring excellent forced airflow above and below each hard drive. Throw a hot running Maxtor HDD in that Cooler Master case, and I can assure you that it will have a shorter life-span than it would in the Antec. (Not that I would recommend Maxtor HDDs nowadays - unless you need a HDD that doubles as an egg fryer.)
I took the above two quotes from earlier threads about PC builds.
On the topic of adequate case ventilation, I also found the Antec Nine Hundred (and Nine Hundred Two) to be very limited as to which PSU can be used with it. Because those cases offer no room at all whatsoever between the bottom of the PSU and the bottom panel of the case, the PSU to be used with those cases should have a single 80mm fan at the rear of the PSU. {For the record, I used a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W (not to be confused with the newer and IMHO inferior-quality Silencer II) PSU with the Nine Hundred, but also found it not very well suited to the case because it has way too many nondetachable cables, which are very thick and extremely stiff. And the cable management features of the Antec Nine Hundred something cases are very rudimentary, amounting to no more than two plastic straps tied down to the motherboard mounting panel. Those two combined resulted in the cables themselves choking off much of the case's ventilation.} The PSUs with large fans at the bottom of the PSU are not really suitable for use with these Antec cases because the PSUs must be turned upside-down so that the fan faces up - but all that does is to suck the heat from the PSU itself back into it (since radiant hot air tends to rise straight upwards), significantly reducing the efficiency and/or maximum usable power output of the PSU and may lead to early death of the PSU.
And the Antec Nine Hundred case (as stock) cannot accomodate some of the tower CPU coolers. I had to cut one of the two plastic supports of the side panel's fan mount just to even fit a Noctua NH-U12 SE2 cooler on the X58 motherboard. Plus, the Nine Hundreds are not as wide as some of the cases from other brands (yes, even cheaper cases).
I replaced the Nine Hundred with a CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced. (Also bought an Antec TruePower New 750W Blue PSU, which is partially modular, with the case.) However, my initial testing showed an increased CPU temperature with just the stock fans. The case can accomodate additional fans, including at least one left-side panel 120mm fan, an additional 140mm top-mounted fan and an 80mm right-side panel fan. (As shipped, it comes with one 140mm front fan, one 140mm top fan and one 120mm rear fan - plus separate blue LEDs around the front fan that can be turned on or off without shutting off the PC - in contrast to the blue LEDs on the Antec case fans, which are always on whenever the PC is turned on.)
If you have a favorite PC case, post your impressions in this thread.
Happy editing!
Looking at photos of the insides of a Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP, I can all but promise that it won't cool hard drives, under a load, nearly as reliably as the Antec Nine Hundred (or Twelve Hundred). The Antec Nine Hundred's hard drive cages are somewhat unique in their design, essentially insuring excellent forced airflow above and below each hard drive. Throw a hot running Maxtor HDD in that Cooler Master case, and I can assure you that it will have a shorter life-span than it would in the Antec. (Not that I would recommend Maxtor HDDs nowadays - unless you need a HDD that doubles as an egg fryer.)
I took the above two quotes from earlier threads about PC builds.
On the topic of adequate case ventilation, I also found the Antec Nine Hundred (and Nine Hundred Two) to be very limited as to which PSU can be used with it. Because those cases offer no room at all whatsoever between the bottom of the PSU and the bottom panel of the case, the PSU to be used with those cases should have a single 80mm fan at the rear of the PSU. {For the record, I used a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750W (not to be confused with the newer and IMHO inferior-quality Silencer II) PSU with the Nine Hundred, but also found it not very well suited to the case because it has way too many nondetachable cables, which are very thick and extremely stiff. And the cable management features of the Antec Nine Hundred something cases are very rudimentary, amounting to no more than two plastic straps tied down to the motherboard mounting panel. Those two combined resulted in the cables themselves choking off much of the case's ventilation.} The PSUs with large fans at the bottom of the PSU are not really suitable for use with these Antec cases because the PSUs must be turned upside-down so that the fan faces up - but all that does is to suck the heat from the PSU itself back into it (since radiant hot air tends to rise straight upwards), significantly reducing the efficiency and/or maximum usable power output of the PSU and may lead to early death of the PSU.
And the Antec Nine Hundred case (as stock) cannot accomodate some of the tower CPU coolers. I had to cut one of the two plastic supports of the side panel's fan mount just to even fit a Noctua NH-U12 SE2 cooler on the X58 motherboard. Plus, the Nine Hundreds are not as wide as some of the cases from other brands (yes, even cheaper cases).
I replaced the Nine Hundred with a CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced. (Also bought an Antec TruePower New 750W Blue PSU, which is partially modular, with the case.) However, my initial testing showed an increased CPU temperature with just the stock fans. The case can accomodate additional fans, including at least one left-side panel 120mm fan, an additional 140mm top-mounted fan and an 80mm right-side panel fan. (As shipped, it comes with one 140mm front fan, one 140mm top fan and one 120mm rear fan - plus separate blue LEDs around the front fan that can be turned on or off without shutting off the PC - in contrast to the blue LEDs on the Antec case fans, which are always on whenever the PC is turned on.)
If you have a favorite PC case, post your impressions in this thread.
Happy editing!