There's a need for a fast super wide - something in the 14-15mm range and f1.4, but it doesn't exist.

The Canon 5D mark II with a 24mm f1.4L II lens combo will give an equivalent 15mm f1.4 focal length on a T2i. That's the expensive alternative, but it does exist.

It might be possible to build a 14-15mm lens at f1.4 but the front element would be the size of a dinner plate.

Yeah the EF-S 18-55 gives you IS, but it doesn't have constant aperture and isn't good in low light.

The Tokina 11-16mm and Sigma 20mm 1.8 are good suggestions, as they will be great in low light, as woudl be the Canon EF 28mm 1.8.

But as pointed out the Zenitar-K 16mm f/2.8 might be a good option as well.


Just think of the EF-S 18-55 as a cheap 18/3.5, and it's just as good of a deal as any of the old 17-19mm's out there.

I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 (you don't want the K, you want the M), and on a 1.6x crop body, it's not very fishy, but at $200-, it's not quite the bargain it used to be. The Zenitar is very compact, and handles flare well too.

...I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 (you don't want the K, you want the M), and on a 1.6x crop body, it's not very fishy, but at $200-, it's not quite the bargain it used to be. The Zenitar is very compact, and handles flare well too.

Hi Kin,

Now you tell me. ;-) What is the difference between the K and the M? Thanks for your help.

I'm not Kin but I think he's referring to the Zenitar that takes the M42 mount. Don't know if there's optical differences between the two or if it's just the mount and maybe better build quality.

Chris W

Hi Ian,

The Canon 5D mark II with a 24mm f1.4L II lens combo will give an equivalent 15mm f1.4 focal length on a T2i. That's the expensive alternative, but it does exist.

Very good point. Full frame vs. crop frame has to be considered.

It might be possible to build a 14-15mm lens at f1.4 but the front element would be the size of a dinner plate.

I can picture that. My current obsession is the manual focus Nikon 200mm f2.0 which does have a big front element. I've set a low-ball price threshold for myself so when one comes along I'll jump on it. And currently en route from an ebay seller in Greece is a Porst 135mm f1.8 which is even more so shaped like a bullhorn.

Just think of the EF-S 18-55 as a cheap 18/3.5, and it's just as good of a deal as any of the old 17-19mm's out there.

I have the Zenitar 16/2.8 (you don't want the K, you want the M), and on a 1.6x crop body, it's not very fishy, but at $200-, it's not quite the bargain it used to be. The Zenitar is very compact, and handles flare well too.

Kin true the 18-55 is a good cheap lens. But you're pretty limited to good lighting only, as the variable aperture will close down to quickly for my taste when zoomed in. Outdoors and in good light it is a very good value.

Personally I prefer glass with a constant aperture, as my lens won;t stop down when zoomed in. And fast primes are great, especially with fast apertures. the only drawback to prime lenses, is that you don't get IS capability on them. As it seems that IS only is built into zoom lenses. Which of course leads to variable apertures in many of them.

The ones that have constant apertures are expensive, but they hold their value very well.

Hi Kin,

Now you tell me. ;-) What is the difference between the K and the M? Thanks for your help.

Yep the M takes the EOS mount, which in many cases comes with an auto confirm M42 to EOS adapter for it. This is convenient as the EOS mount doesn't have AF confirm.

Besides the flickering issue I have read with AF adapter chips, I also read where some people who bought the Zenitar lens with EOS AF adapter complained that the adapter was too close to their mirror in the camera. I don't know if this was a full frame or cropped sensor camera, as the camera used wasn't mentioned.

I'm seriously considering picking up a Zenitar 16mm, but wondering if I should just settle for the non-AF confirm EOS mount.

BTW, Mark is this fisheye enough for your taste on a cropped sensor?
I liek the fact that it doesn't look extreme fisheye at all, but rather a subtle fisheye effect. Mor of a wide angle effect.

I am mainly shooting DSLRs for corporate work right now. And use it for some prep, establishing shots, and detail shots. So I was thinking that the Zenitar on a slider would make a nice detail style shot lens.

What do yo think?

Hi Ian,



Very good point. Full frame vs. crop frame has to be considered.



I can picture that. My current obsession is the manual focus Nikon 200mm f2.0 which does have a big front element. I've set a low-ball price threshold for myself so when one comes along I'll jump on it. And currently en route from an ebay seller in Greece is a Porst 135mm f1.8 which is even more so shaped like a bullhorn.

Hey Joel,

Long time, no see. Didn't know you were into classic glass. What lenses do you have so far? I think since going manual focus, I've been considering the 5D for later down the road especially when it comes to wide angle shooting. There just aren't many affordable options when you get below the 28mm range. Do you find the 135 and above primes pretty useful on a crop sensor camera for weddings?

Kin true the 18-55 is a good cheap lens. But you're pretty limited to good lighting only, as the variable aperture will close down to quickly for my taste when zoomed in. Outdoors and in good light it is a very good value.

My point is just that if anyone is looking for a cheap/affordable wide (this is a thread on old/cheaper lenses), the 18-55 is a good choice.

Hi Kin,

Now you tell me. ;-) What is the difference between the K and the M? Thanks for your help.

The K stands for Pentax K-mount, M is M42.

There's a pretty good chance that the K-mount is just an adapter, and it's a M-mount under all that, but no guarantees.

...My current obsession is the manual focus Nikon 200mm f2.0 which does have a big front element. I've set a low-ball price threshold for myself so when one comes along I'll jump on it. And currently en route from an ebay seller in Greece is a Porst 135mm f1.8 which is even more so shaped like a bullhorn.

Hi Joel,

Make sure you update the Classic Lens feature on your website when the Porst arrives. I want to see it. :-)

Hi Chris!

Hey Joel,
Long time, no see. Didn't know you were into classic glass.

I wasn't until my first reception with the T2i's in May at which my f4 and even f2.8 zooms couldn't cut it. At that shoot I ended up using a 50mm f1.4 nikon almost exclusively that I'd had from a 35mm lens adapter. It just takes a bunch of grainy images to make you realize where to put your money.

What lenses do you have so far?

See my signature, although that picture is a little of date. I'm selling my 70-200 f4L IS because I picked up a Tokina 80-200 f2.8 with Nikon mount and I have the Porst 135 f1.8 I mentioned. That has replaced the Pentax 135 f2.5 which I'll also be selling.

I think since going manual focus, I've been considering the 5D for later down the road especially when it comes to wide angle shooting. There just aren't many affordable options when you get below the 28mm range.

Agreed.

Do you find the 135 and above primes pretty useful on a crop sensor camera for weddings?

The mid-range telephoto primes are what I set up for the toasts. For example Saturday night the head table was in the middle of the large hall and the mic was wireless, so I couldn't get any of my off-camera lighting on the people speaking without being too noticeable. I was really wishing I had the 135mm already. I was at 1600 iso with the Nikon 180mm f2.8 but only 400 iso with the 85mm 1.4 with a wider shot. The difference in noise is noticeable to me. (Probably not to the client though.)

...BTW, Mark is this fisheye enough for your taste on a cropped sensor?
I liek the fact that it doesn't look extreme fisheye at all, but rather a subtle fisheye effect. Mor of a wide angle effect.

I am mainly shooting DSLRs for corporate work right now. And use it for some prep, establishing shots, and detail shots. So I was thinking that the Zenitar on a slider would make a nice detail style shot lens.

What do yo think?

The Zenitar 16mm is just wide enough. With the crop factor it comes out to about 25mm. My HMC150 is about 28mm, so the Zenitar gets me close to what I like for a wide shot. You do see some fisheye effect but it's not too bad.

The Zenitar 16 is great for establishing shots as well as wide shots of general dancing, but at f/2.8, it's not a low light champ. The plus side is that it's much easier to keep things in focus.

Here's some sample footage from last weekends wedding.
Zenitar-K 16mm Lens for DSLRs on Vimeo

Thanks for the info Kin.

[QUOTE=Chris Watson;1548289]... Can't wait to see your SDE shot with the Zenitar 16mm 2.8. I wish I had more time to play with it in Tulsa but from the little I shot with it, it seems like a pretty decent wide angle lens... QUOTE]

Hi Chris,

We dressed up the SDE and made it into a Highlight. All of the Prep and Ceremony shots are with the HMC150s. The reception is a mix of HMC150 and T2is.

Lenses used:
Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 (Thanks for the recommendation. I love this lens.)
Nikon 50mm f/1.4
Canon 28mm f/1.8
Zenitar-K 16mm f/2.8

As I remember the Zenitar shots are, the cake shot, the shot of the band (you can see the curve in the mic stand) and the shot of the Bride and Grandpa on the dance floor (which follows the low angle wide shot of the First Dance. You can see the shot is a little dark due to the f/2.8 limitations.)

I actually shot the reception decorartions with two T2i's, which was nice. One had the Zenitar and the other had the Nikon 50mm f/1.4. It was so much faster than constantly changing out lenses.

Our Best to the Bride & Groom on Vimeo

Mark ,as usual great edit.
One question on the fisheye shots.

Did you use a fisheye on the HNC150, and the Zenitar on the T2i?

I ask because some fisheye shots looked much more distorted than some others.

BTW, I like the look of the Zenitar on a cropped sensor, as the cake shots and low angle first dance shots had a nice subtle look to them.

Really peaking my interest.

BTW, just got my Rokinon 85mm today, and liking what I am seeing.
But man that focus ring is really dampened. =)

Hey Mark,

Great clip! Were those close up first dance shots from the Rokinon? They are really stunning. I like the Zenitar alot as well. It looks like it can be used in general shooting situations other than just architectural type shots. If I didn't have the Tamron 17-50, I'd snap up this lens in a heartbeat. Glad I could turn you on to the Rokinon. It's by far one of the best values in the 85mm range.

Mark ,as usual great edit.
One question on the fisheye shots.

Did you use a fisheye on the HNC150, and the Zenitar on the T2i?

I ask because some fisheye shots looked much more distorted than some others.

BTW, I like the look of the Zenitar on a cropped sensor, as the cake shots and low angle first dance shots had a nice subtle look to them.

Really peaking my interest.

BTW, just got my Rokinon 85mm today, and liking what I am seeing.
But man that focus ring is really dampened. =)

Hi Michael,

Thanks. I had a fisheye on the HMC150 for the first two shots of the highlight and the interior church shots. At the reception I had a fisheye on the HMC150 for the follow shot as the couple entered the reception as well as the Glidecam shot during the first dance. The low angle during the first dance was the HMC150 with the stock lens.

If you see a distorted fisheye shot, it's the Century Optics on the HMC150. The Zenitar is very subtle, but then again, it's only 25mm with the crop factor. It shows up the most when you see a verticle line towards the edge of the shot, like in the band shot with the mic stand.

You are going to love the Rokinon for dark receptions. At $250, it's the most expensive lens I own.

Hey Mark,

Great clip! Were those close up first dance shots from the Rokinon? They are really stunning. I like the Zenitar alot as well. It looks like it can be used in general shooting situations other than just architectural type shots. If I didn't have the Tamron 17-50, I'd snap up this lens in a heartbeat. Glad I could turn you on to the Rokinon. It's by far one of the best values in the 85mm range.

Hi Chris,

Thanks. Yes, the closeup first dance shot is the Rokinon. They were all over the dance floor and with the shallow DoF at f/1.4, it was a challenge. I shot some really sweet mix and mingling shots with the Rokinon, just like you said, it practically makes light, but that's what happens when you have a lens in the f/1.2-1.4 range.

I know what you mean about the Rokinon being one of the best values in the 85mm range ($250). I had sticker shock when I saw other 85mm f/1.4s selling for $500-2000.

Hi Mark!


Make sure you update the Classic Lens feature on your website when the Porst arrives. I want to see it. :-)

Will do. Was also just reading that Samyang (Rokinon, Falcon, Polar, Bower, Vivitar) will be announcing a 35mm f1.4 or even f1.2 for Canon in the 2nd half of 2010. They'll sell a lot of them if its true.

Hi Chris,

Thanks. Yes, the closeup first dance shot is the Rokinon. They were all over the dance floor and with the shallow DoF at f/1.4, it was a challenge. I shot some really sweet mix and mingling shots with the Rokinon, just like you said, it practically makes light, but that's what happens when you have a lens in the f/1.2-1.4 range.

Mark I hear ya on keeping focus with such a narrow aperture, as it's razor thin.
What are you using to focus when shooting at 1.4?

Are you using LCD, loupe, or external monitor?

My setup is compact as I use Hoodman loupe and a compact no-rails follow focus on my camera, which is then mounted on DV Multi Rig. But I don't know if the multi rig will suffice with the 85mm and no IS onboard, and I am usually shooting with the 17-50mm VC Tamron for all purpose. And with no onboard IS there might be micro vibrations being passed onto the lens.

I just found MAMIYA SEKOR CS 50mm f1.7 (pentax mount)
Mamiya 50mm CS Lens f/1.7 (http://herron.50megs.com/cs50mm1.7.htm)
Have you ever try it?

BTW for anyone who might be interested, I just posted a low light test of the Rokinon 85mm 1.4 manual lens with my 550D. I did the test with the shutter speed at 60 and not 30, as I normally don't like to shoot video below 60 fps.


Rokinon 85mm low light test on Vimeo

Thanks for sharing that. It's amazing how sensitive that lens really is and at only $250 it's a real steal.

Many months ago, I read a few reviews, looked at a few videos, and resolved to buy the first one of these I could find on eBay.

It seems that once people get them, they don't sell them that often, because they are one of rarest lenses out there, which is telling. I wonder how many of them get snapped up by the DSLR video crowd. They are such a good match for DSLRs.

Looks like I might have to give in and buy a new one. Have to sell a couple of lenses first then.

James, are you referring to the Rokinon 85mm 1.4?

James, are you referring to the Rokinon 85mm 1.4?

Yes, AKA the Samyang (and about 5 other names!). Sorry I didn't make that clear. I'm very keen to see how it stacks up against my Takumar 85mm f/1.9, which I love.

The Rokinon/Falcon/Vivitar/Samyang 85 1.4 is an excellent lens. For the money, it's a real no brainer. My guess is Samyang saved some money making the lens all manual and passed the cost along to us. Smart move on their part and hopefully a sign of things to come now that videographers are snapping up DSLRs. There's definitely a market for good manual focus lenses.

Hi Mark!



Will do. Was also just reading that Samyang (Rokinon, Falcon, Polar, Bower, Vivitar) will be announcing a 35mm f1.4 or even f1.2 for Canon in the 2nd half of 2010. They'll sell a lot of them if its true.


Hi Joel,

It's good to hear from you. Have you heard what the street price will be?

Mark I hear ya on keeping focus with such a narrow aperture, as it's razor thin.
What are you using to focus when shooting at 1.4?

Are you using LCD, loupe, or external monitor?

My setup is compact as I use Hoodman loupe and a compact no-rails follow focus on my camera, which is then mounted on DV Multi Rig. But I don't know if the multi rig will suffice with the 85mm and no IS onboard, and I am usually shooting with the 17-50mm VC Tamron for all purpose. And with no onboard IS there might be micro vibrations being passed onto the lens.

Hi Michael,

I was just using the LCD. I saw the Zacuto loupes at Expo last year, but I didn't have a DSLR then. I am wondering how I would like a loupe since I wear glasses. I heard through the grapevine that we will be seeing some new alternatives to loupes just around the corner. We'll see.

I have played around with a 7 inch monitor, but it was too big for handheld use. There is supposed to be a good 5 inch montior coming out soon.

I use the Multirig with both the Rokinon 85 and a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 with good results.

Thanks for the info Mark.
I haven't had a chance to try out the Rokinon 85mm with my MultiRig yet, but am now encouraged that it will work alright with it. I tried it out with my Bogen fluid base monopod and didn't like the results too much, as I have never been the most proficient with a monopod, and there was still too much movement for my taste for a lens with no IS.

I do love flying a DSLR on the MultiRig though as it truly is effortless. I find it funny that so many are spending a fortune on DSLR rigs when this works so easily with a DSLR. I am even running it with a follow focus and loving it even more so.

Thanks to all who have posted helpful info in this thread. It's been very helpful to me.

This is my first post on this forum.

I have a question regarding 135mm vintage lenses. I would love to buy a prime 135mm at f2 or faster. The Canon 135mm f2 at nearly $1k seems high for the limited times I will be using this lens.

Can anyone make a recommendation about a solid lense I should look for that is easily adaptable to a DSLR?

Thanks!
Brett

Well for starters, the Canon 135mm f2 is not an old lens but part of Canon's "L" Series. Which are very highly regarded.

If you would like vintage old manual primes then there are plenty to chose from, although f2 or faster might make it harder to find. You will need an EOS to whatever the mount is on the lens itself to use it with a modern DSLR but most will work. The only exception might be of all things, a Canon FD mount which will require glass on the adapter to sue it for infinity focus.

You won't have exposure control or auto focus feature on the camera, but you will have aperture control on the manual lens itself, which for me is actually preferable and more natural.

As for lenses you could look into:
Vivitar 135mm f/2.5
Pentax Takumar 135mm f/2.5

There are lots of 2.8 manuals out there:
Konica Soligor 135mm f/2.8
Vivitar 135MM f2.8
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Soligor 135mm f/2.8
HELIOS 135mm f/2.8
Tair-11 133mm f/2.8

jupiter11 135mm f/4.0

All said you can find lots of 135mm vintage manual lenses out there. But it might take some research and digging. The nice thing about all of these lenses is that they all have different characteristics (brokeh, flare, color etc.) to them and all can give you a totally unique look form each other.

Thanks to all who have posted helpful info in this thread. It's been very helpful to me.

This is my first post on this forum.

I have a question regarding 135mm vintage lenses. I would love to buy a prime 135mm at f2 or faster. The Canon 135mm f2 at nearly $1k seems high for the limited times I will be using this lens.

Can anyone make a recommendation about a solid lense I should look for that is easily adaptable to a DSLR?

Thanks!
Brett

These focal lengths depend if your DSLR is full frame or crop 1.6. An 85mm on a 7D or T2i has about the equivalent focal length as a 135mm lens on a 5Dm2, yet you can find 85mm manual focus lenses in the f1.4 range for little money, eg. Rokinon 85mm. On a crop sensor, the 135mm f2.0 is equivalent to a 200mm f2.0. A Canon 200mm f2.0 sells for $6000+ dollars. The savings on a 135mm lens cropped is enormous. 135mm to 200mm at f2.0 are rare in the vintage world just because today's modern lenses are sophisticated pieces of engineering and the lens arrays are designed by computers.

If you do find vintage lens in f2.0, they will be pricey, so it might be better just to go Canon because their color balance are uniform across their L line. That's one of the advantages of going all Canon. No funky color rendering issues.

Thanks for the feedback.

My hope was to avoid paying $1k for the current Canon 135mm f2 lense by purchasing a vintage lens I can adapt. It is important that it be 135mm at f2 or faster.

This discussion of old lenses made me wonder if I could save by purchasing something old, but it sounds like vintage may not be the best option for a fast 135mm.

Other ideas are certainly welcome! Thanks!

Bret are you wanting to shoot with a focal length of 135mm, or use a 135mm lens to obtain a 200mm focal length.
As was just said, if you are looking for a 135mm focal length then you can look for glass that's 85mm (which is 135mm on the Canons cropped sensor). If you are looking for the later, then you can find fast glass in the 85mm range. An example is the new Rokinin (Samyang, Vivitar, etc.) that's 85mm at a fast 1.4. the glass is pretty good, and build is nice, and it only goes for $250 New.

if you're wanting a 135mm lens to obtain 200mm focal length, then as suggested your choices will be more limiting, but they are out there if you want to look hard enough.

Thanks Michael,
I have an 85mm. I'm looking for a 135mm.

What would be your budget? I found a few Nikon AI lenses in the $400 range that should suit your needs. There are lots of folks on here who swear by them. I'll PM you a few.

Thanks Chris. We all appreciate the time you have invested in this & your willingness to share.

A friend of mine, Chris Watson, has done a lot of research on vitage lenses and has an article coming out in EventDV magazine. I just checked and the article is not online yet, but it should be available any day. You can watch for it here, EventDV.net: The Event Videographer's Resource (http://www.EventDV.net)

Thanks for providing the article- very informative. I've purchased a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 but now I'm unsure what kind of adapter to buy... (I'm completely new to the world of lenses) A store here in Amsterdam only had 130 euro adapters- almost 3x the price of the lens.

What adapter do I need from Fotodiox? (Chris said he bought his for $20 but I can't find these on the website)

TIA,

Jeroen

Check out this site. SLR Lens Mount Identification Guide (http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-99.html). It should answer your question in terms of what adapter your new lens needs. My guess is that you may be looking at the "pro" version of the adapters. I only use the "consumer grade" and they are just fine. I got them from the Fotodiox Ebay store.

I noticed I bought the Vivitar Series 1 3.5 70-210 FD(!) and just read that Mark von Lanken mentioned the FD mount is the one mount that's hard to adapt. I guess I was too eager. I can return it if it's not the right one... Or is there a way to mount this lens anyway?

I recently purchased an old Vivitar 28mm f/2.5 (KIRON) from eBay. A tad rarer than the 2.8 so I paid a little more, but the lens is in fantastic condition. I'm only fairly new to photography so my photo's will probably scream 'newby' but I am loving it for video and it's definitely my go-to lens at the moment.

Plus, I love how badass it looks on my 550D ;)

I noticed I bought the Vivitar Series 1 3.5 70-210 FD(!) and just read that Mark von Lanken mentioned the FD mount is the one mount that's hard to adapt. I guess I was too eager. I can return it if it's not the right one... Or is there a way to mount this lens anyway?

I read your info on the mount matters, Chris, and got my answer there. (From now on I will read first and then buy...;-)

Sorry for not responding sooner. Had a two day shoot and am just now getting back to things. Yeah the Canon FD can be adapted but depending on the adapter you can have a softer picture, difficulty with infinity focus, or loss of light. I think Canon sold an FD>EOS adapter years ago with excellent optics but it was prohibitively expensive.

There's also the option of sending the lens to someone who could convert the lens to the EOS mount by putting the lens elements in a new barrell or something like that. For a rare FD or Minolta this might be worth it but for a pretty common lens like the Vivitar 70-210, it's best (and cheapest) to just get an Olympus or Nikon mount version.

Sorry for not responding sooner. Had a two day shoot and am just now getting back to things. Yeah the Canon FD can be adapted but depending on the adapter you can have a softer picture, difficulty with infinity focus, or loss of light. I think Canon sold an FD>EOS adapter years ago with excellent optics but it was prohibitively expensive.The Canon FD>EOS adapter was only for a couple of the longest telephoto FD lenses which at the time were probably prohibitively expensive too.

It is a great shame that Canon declared "Year Zero" when they introduced the EF mount. Last year I bought for next to nothing a beautiful 35-105mm F3.5 telephoto that is absolutely pristine. Sadly with a cheapo FD>EOS adapter from eBay (which is all that is available) the picture is too soft. It's an enormous shame as otherwise the lens is perfect for video use with a lovely wide focus ring & big zoom ring

I shot this with an old Lens I got off ebay for $100. Super Takumar 50mm 1.4

Just a clip By Clayton Moore On ExposureRoom (http://exposureroom.com/members/ClaytonMoore/ab05dce24fa9484f9e40edce747243ed/)

Someone posted about this lens here

Organgrinder010: Manual Lenses on EOS Body Part 2 - Super-Takumar 50mm f1.4 (http://organgrinder010.blogspot.com/2009/12/manual-lenses-on-eos-body-part-2-super.html)

Hi Mark!

Hi Joel,

It's good to hear from you. Have you heard what the street price will be?

Samyang's main goal is to make their lenses affordable, so I'd guess it will be in the $250-350 range:

From Interview with Mr. Lee - Director of Sales & Marekting Samyang Optics - Interview with Mr. Lee - Director of Sales & Marekting Samyang Optics - Lenstip.com (http://www.lenstip.com/index.php?art=122)

"LensTip.com: There are rumors, that the next lens released will be 35mm f/1.2 or 35 mm f/1.4. Could you tell us about it?
Mr. Lee: 35 mm f/1.4 will be released in the second half of 2010."

Hi Brett,

Thanks for the feedback.
My hope was to avoid paying $1k for the current Canon 135mm f2 lense by purchasing a vintage lens I can adapt. It is important that it be 135mm at f2 or faster.
This discussion of old lenses made me wonder if I could save by purchasing something old, but it sounds like vintage may not be the best option for a fast 135mm.
Other ideas are certainly welcome! Thanks!

It took patient and diligent scanning of the used lens websites and ebay but after two months I landed a Porst 135mm f1.8. I've used it at two events and its very sharp and has good contrast and color. Its really heavy, which is fine though because I have it on a tripod or monopod. After shipping from Greece the total was about $250. Very satisfied with the purchase. In the picture the lens is compared to the much smaller Pentax 135mm f2.5.

Nice telephoto lens. I went to a yard sale a few weeks ago, the lady had a Nikon 35mm film camera with a 135mm tele lens and some other stuff. I got the whole deal for $20. One lens mount adapter later and I was in business.

CM