View Full Version : ZOOM H4n as USB mixer into SI2K.


Bob Hart
April 27th, 2010, 08:45 AM
Has anyone done this yet?

Alex Raskin
April 27th, 2010, 06:24 PM
I looked at Zoom initially, but balked because they do not publish tech specs.

People on other forums say that's because Zoom manufacturer is changing his parts suppliers periodically, which leads to variation in tech specs as a result, so they don't publish them.

In any case, looks like a low-end device - wouldn't it be better to feed SI2K a quality sound? Especially since we already have quality picture - thanks Ari :)

I tried a ton of different options, and ended up with Sound Devices USBpre (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/292993-REG/Sound_Devices_USBPRE15_USBPre_Version_1_5_.html/BI/2187/KBID/2932). Powered by USB bus itself, so no batteries to worry about. Gorgeous sound. Published specs :)

I like!

Of course it does not have built-in mics like Zoom, but you said you were looking for a mixer so I'm assuming you already have your mics lined up...

Bob Hart
April 27th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Alex.


This one is a slightly unique situation, a 3D surf shoot in Bali which is basically being shot ute with wild ambience tracks. The SI2K pair is the shoreline 3D camera with the long lenses. They are apparently going to use PL-Mount Angeniuex Optimos in the ballpark 28mm - 290mm or thereabouts.

I am a bit cheap. I have use a Sigma 50mm - 500mm for my 2D ground-to-airs.

Offtopic - Long Lens work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVHX0kJxGjU


The H4n is basically to provide an ambience reference track for each shot which I guess could go in via the normal analogue route. The soundie is travelling light so he can check in some of the heavier camera gear in his baggae allowance.

The soundie was asking if we could go in via USB, not sure why except maybe it seems a cool thing to do.

Rohan Dadswell
April 27th, 2010, 11:13 PM
I had the earlier version Zoom H4 which I used as the audio input for my Mac Book Pro/SI Mini before I got the full SI body. Worked fine for this.

When I got the full body I tried to use the Zoom and couldn't get the SI-2K to recognize the USB Zoom. You apparently need to install some USB audio drivers which I never found (the Zoom has since died so have given up and use the XLR inputs)

The Sound Devices USBpre ships with a driver CD and can be used with the SI-2K so I've been told - I haven't tried this.

Alex Raskin
April 27th, 2010, 11:18 PM
USBpre surely works great with SI2K mini's SiliconDVR - I use it frequently that way..

Alex Raskin
May 13th, 2010, 06:17 PM
...and now I'm selling USBpre here in the classifieds (http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/private-classifieds/477185-mobile-minipc-si-2k-mini-capture-play-back-raw-footage-studio-field-use.html#post1526735)... thanks for looking.

Alex Raskin
May 24th, 2010, 06:46 PM
For truly run-and-gun, super light, high quality audio input, I have recently discovered:

CEntrance Micro Port Pro (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519287-REG/CEntrance_Inc__CE1801_MicPort_Pro_USB_Microphone.html/BI/2187/KBID/2932). Now, you'll love this one - NO drivers needed. USB-powered. A steal at $150, as its sound quality is very high, compares favorably with USBpre, IMHO.

Provides 48V phantom, too.

Built-in quality phone amp.

Seriously, that little bugger needs to be Emmy nominated :)

Justin Lovell
September 16th, 2010, 07:13 PM
I'm using the h4n zoom and its working great!

Little cumbersome, not as slick as having pots and dials at your fingertips, but for doc interviews etc, it is a nice little unit to have. It mounts with a little noga arm easily to any handheld rig.