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Daniel D. Kim
April 16th, 2010, 12:29 AM
I have the T2i and I am confused to as when to shoot 720p60 and 1080p24 because I don't know which shots I might need to slow things down and always wonder if I should have shot with the 60p or the 24p.

If I never know when I 'might' need to slow things down (as you don't always prepare for the slow mo, sometimes you want to shoot it regular but just slow things down at certain point.) Does that means I'll always have to shoot with 720p60, because I'll never know when I need to slow it down..?

Hope that made sense.. lol Thanks!! :)

This is much easier problem with my XHA1 since I can do 1080i60 where I can just slow it down but still have it at 1080, while the choices with the T2i is a bit harder because if I want to shoot with 1080p24 (filmic look)
I can't slow things down as it will get blurry, but if I shoot it with the 720p60, I can't really get the film look also it's not 1080...

dilemma dilemma. Or am I thinking too hard? Haha thanks!

Jeff Regan
April 16th, 2010, 05:24 PM
Daniel,

Shooting all at 60p is a good way to go. You can always do a pull down and edit on a 24 fps time line, dropping your 60p sequences or 48p sequences over 24p. You definitely don't want to slow-mo from 24p.

Jeff Regan
Shooting Star Video (http://www.ssv.com)

Daniel D. Kim
April 18th, 2010, 09:25 PM
Thanks Jeff,

Then with what you said, dropping my 60p footage into a 24p time (without converting the actual clip to 24p; which will make a slow motion) line will actually make my 60p have a filmic look, without slow motioning?

Dave Partington
April 19th, 2010, 04:26 AM
There is much more to a filmic look than just shooting at 24p or having a 24p timeline.

Daniel D. Kim
April 19th, 2010, 08:09 AM
haha, yes, yes. I totally agree. I specifically meant 'frame rate' not necessarily and 'film' look which takes in to account of all possible techniques to achieve that look.

I just wanted to ask if I place a 60i footage into a 24p timeline if I can get the 60i convert to a proper 24p frame rate. :)

Thanks!

Nick Popa
April 24th, 2010, 10:04 PM
haha, yes, yes. I totally agree. I specifically meant 'frame rate' not necessarily and 'film' look which takes in to account of all possible techniques to achieve that look.

I just wanted to ask if I place a 60i footage into a 24p timeline if I can get the 60i convert to a proper 24p frame rate. :)

Thanks!

Wait now your saying 60I to 24P. That is not the same as 60P to 24P obviously. Was this a typo??

John Wiley
April 25th, 2010, 06:13 PM
It would be interesting to know the exact resolution of the T2i image (as opposed to what is being recorded) in each mode. Because the t2i is not able to resolve anything close to 1080 lines their actually may not be a huge difference in real resolution between 720p and 1080p - meaning 60p is the winner in most situations.

My advice would be if you are unsure, shoot it 720p. If you are shooting anything where you KNOW you will need the audio to be in sync and at normal speed, such as a live speaker or narrative dialogue scene, then you can shoot 24p.

Daniel D. Kim
April 26th, 2010, 09:52 AM
Sorry Nick, I was referring to the XHA1.

"If I take the footage with the 60i (XHA1, as T2i doesn't support 60p nor 60i in 1080), would I be able to simply drop the 60i to 24 framerate? To get the 'film' look"

That should have been more of a proper question, I guess :)

John,

My question still remains. Would I be able to make the 60p look like 24p without slowing down the footage?

Thanks, so much guys!

George Angeludis
April 26th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Because the t2i is not able to resolve anything close to 1080 lines their actually may not be a huge difference in real resolution between 720p and 1080p - meaning

Why you say that? Based on what? Canon says it conforms to 1080i specifications.

George Angeludis
April 26th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Sorry Nick, I was referring to the XHA1.

My question still remains. Would I be able to make the 60p look like 24p without slowing down the footage?

Thanks, so much guys!

This is easy when using MC4. Make a 60p project, import the footage. Then make a 24p project and bring in the 60p footage from the other project (by opening a bin of the 60p project at this one).

Daniel D. Kim
April 26th, 2010, 01:58 PM
I just found this post on DVX user forum :)

How 60p to 24p conversion works and some experiments. (http://dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=177557)