Get it here. (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates/vegaspro)

Notable fixes/changes in Version 9.0d

* Added closed captioning support (reading and writing of XDCAM HD and HD422 closed captions, as well as .SCC file import/export).
* Added support for the PreSonus FaderPort control surface.
* Added Device Explorer support for CompactFlash-based memory recording units such as the HVR-MRC1 and hard-disk-based recording units such as the HVR-DR60.
* Added support for AVCHD Lite video.
* Added support for timecode in XDCAM EX AVI/DV files.
* Tools > Multicamera > Lay Out Tracks Using Media Timecode and Lay Out Tracks Using Media Date/Time Stamp now use unique tracks for media without tape names.
* Added support for importing layered PSD files across tracks.
* Added White Balance video plug-in.
* Added scripts: Remove Letterboxing, Render Audio Tracks, Resize Generated Media, and Stereo To Mono.
* Copy Snapshot to Clipboard and Save Snapshot to File now deinterlace interlaced images and operate at Best (Full) resolution if the Video Preview is set to (Auto) size and Good quality if set to Draft or Preview.
* Copy Snapshot to Clipboard now performs pixel-aspect correction like the Save Snapshot to File command.
* Added Copy Snapshot to Clipboard and Save Snapshot to File to the Trimmer.
* Added timeline DVD burning (Tools > Burn Disc > DVD).
* Updated to latest RED SDK, including support for 4.5K images and FLUT color science.
* élastique Efficient is now the default time stretch mode.
* MPEG-2 smart render across formats now supports MPEG-2 video streams intended for Blu-ray Disc (only available when operating points are identical: e.g. resolution, framerate, video data rate, color resolution).
* The Mastering Effects Bundle 2 plug-ins (available with Sound Forge Pro 10) can now be used in Vegas Pro if they are installed on your system.
* Implemented various compatibility improvements to XDCAM MXF files.
* Improved support for reading AVC/AAC (.mp4) video.
* Improved image sharpness on Windows Secondary Monitor display when Apply deinterlace filter is not used.
* Improved Trimmer Fit-to-Fill behavior when the source is a still image.
* Implemented various additions and improvements to Interactive Tutorials.
* Fixed a crash that could occur during startup when using the 64-bit version of the application with certain RAID controllers.
* Fixed a crash that could occur when adding certain audio effects to the Master Bus FX chain.
* Fixed a hang that could occur while changing FX parameters with an external DV monitor enabled.
* Fixed a hang that could occur when using 32-bit VST audio effects in the 64-bit version of the application.
* Fixed a hang that could occur after capturing HDV clips.
* Fixed field order in reader for certain H.264 files.
* Fixed Import Stereo as Dual Mono when dragging media from the Device Explorer window.
* Fixed a smart render issue with XDCAM HD.
* Fixed a smart render issue with MXF PAL DV rendered to AVI PAL DV.
* Fixed timecode reading for 50p and 60p XDCAM MXF media.
* Fixed an issue with waveform drawing accuracy when very quiet events are normalized.
* Fixed an issue that could prevent audio from appearing for certain AVI files.
* Fixed a crash that could occur when rendering many markers to Sony MXF format.
* Fixed a bug that could cause clicks when using certain Track EQ automation settings.
* Fixed an issue where deleting one Track Motion preset could cause others to be removed.
* Fixed a slight artifact that could occur when using the Broadcast Colors video effect.
* Improved support for VST audio plug-ins written in Delphi.
* Fixed a problem that could cause summary data to be lost when using custom Windows Media Video rendering templates.
* Fixed a problem with enabling the audio stream when using custom Windows Media Video rendering templates.
* Fixed the ability to capture from HDCA-702 MPEG TS Adaptor.
* Fixed the ability to render to multiple mono files using PCA format.
* Fixed the ability to seek in files rendered using the MainConcept AAC/AVC format.
* Fixed a problem that could cause corrupt video when rendering to QuickTime format using the 3 Mbps Video template.
* Fixed the operation of the Proportional check box in the Checkerboard generator plug-in.
* Fixed an issue with media generators not using a changed pixel aspect ratio.
* Fixed an issue saving and restoring templates in the Command Properties dialog.
* Fixed an issue that prevented JPEG from being used to save image sequences.
* Fixed an issue with Trimmer Fit-to-Fill not creating the correct media start time.
* Fixed an issue with scrubbing in reverse past the media start time in the Trimmer.
* Fixed issue with Event Pan/Crop Match Output Aspect when Adjust source media to better match project or render settings applied to the source media.
* Fixed an issue that prevented markers from appearing in the correct position for rendered FLAC files.
* Corrected a problem that could cause black frames in MOV files after installing the QuickTime 7.6.6 update.

Hope this is finally stable.. fingers crossed!

I'm using 9c and with my AVCHD from Canon 7d, the system is totally unstable. I am to the point where I can't render anything, even a 20 second clip. It either crashes or says "Not enough memory, close other programs". It also won't play smooth in the timeline. Stutters like crazy. Basically Vegas is useless right now. I also get red frames all over the place. Anyone know if such issues are addressed in the latest iteration?

not sure if things are fixed as vegas 9d wont open any of my old veg files.
posted problem on sony forum as well to see if people can reproduce or if its my PC.
rolled back to 9c and veg files open fine.
9d no go!

vista 64 bit
vegas 9c
intel quad core
8 gb ram
cineform
magic bullet looks

Yup, same here. Now doesn't recognise .mxf or .veg files. How do you roll back to the previous version please?

ok now loaded a veg file but it took 10 mins to load!, I thought it had just stalled at 2%
someone mentioned a warning about proxy audio file being produced and I wonder if this is what is happening and why it is so slow.

9d no go!

Thanks for the warning. I downloaded 9d, but I think I will not install it then. 9.0c works for me just fine.

well it loaded the veg file but as i said took 10 mins to do so.
I thought that if i saved it in 9d then it would re open fine. Wrong!
It took another 10 mins to open.
Also noted all my cineform files were now listed as interlaced, no they are progressive and were always opened as progressive in the 9c VEG.
9d now sees them as interlaced.
back to 9c for good.

Humph! Just uninstlled and reinstalld 9c. As you were......

same error reported on sony forums, 10 mins to load a project! each time it loads!
I would hold off the upgrade until things are clarified.
john

I decided to try it anyway. I created a Windows restore point, just in case I wanted to go back. I installed 9.0d (64-bit) on my Sony Vaio laptop running 64-bit Vista on a dual processor. This is the same machine that I have been using with 9.0c and that I have been developing the Bororo 3D plug-in (http://www.pantarheon.org/Bororo3D/) on.

Then I loaded Vegas. It loaded faster than ever before. It also opened the last project I had opened before. It was not showing my Bororo 3D plug-in, so at first I started panicking. I quit Vegas and checked the Bororo 3D installer. It was not installed. Clearly, I had uninstalled it as I often do when I add some functionality and test it. So, I installed the plug-in, then opened Vegas 9.0d. My plug-in was now showing. Everything was working like a charm. Opened some older projects just to see if they would load. They loaded very fast, faster than I am used to.

So, unlike others, I seem to have no troubles with the new 9.0d (it did not even ask me to re-enter my serial number but displayed it as usual). Then again, I never had any troubles with 9.0c either.

So, if you are wondering what to do, do what I did: Create a Windows restore point, then install the update. If everything works fine, congratulations. If not, tell Windows to restore the system to just before you created the restore point and you will be back to 9.0c, or whatever else you are running.

I'm not at the end of the rope with Vegas, but I'm getting near it.

Create a Windows restore point, then install the update.

And if you really mess it up, you can always get a copy of 9.0c (or any other version) in the Sony archives (http://download.sonymediasoftware.com/current/).

I'm not at the end of the rope with Vegas, but I'm getting near it.

And yet there are more than a few users who aren't have any problems.
I'll see what happens when I get home tonight and install it.
Keeping all fingers and toes crossed and touching a lot of wood when I do that :-)

I took the plunge and I am thrilled!
1. No more red clips.
2. Fantastic improvement of picture quality on secondary monitor.

Otherwise flawless playback speed at 24fps Best(Full) opposed to 9c where I experienced at times slowdowns.

I loaded a 30 minute project with many layers of sound tracks, 720p, no issues.

I'm happy (so far).

Ive submitted a support ticket with Sony, will let you know what happens.
Paul are you using cineform or magic bullet? are you using vegas 64bit or 32 bit
There must be a reason for the issues some people are having.
cheers john

I took the plunge and I am thrilled!
1. No more red clips.
2. Fantastic improvement of picture quality on secondary monitor.

Otherwise flawless playback speed at 24fps Best(Full) opposed to 9c where I experienced at times slowdowns.

I loaded a 30 minute project with many layers of sound tracks, 720p, no issues.

I'm happy (so far).

What kind of footage is that 720p? m2t?

Wow, lots of new features and improvements. I was not expecting so much in this release. Thanks Sony.

No problems upgrading either 32 bit version or 64 bit version . My system running Vista 64. Both version loaded quickly and loaded all the list of veg files under the file menu carried over from 9.0c Haven't tried much else since the veg's contained both HDV , AVCHD ( 1440 and 1920x1080) and there were a few veg files of just audio mixing. All seemed to work just fine.

Ron Evans

Ive submitted a support ticket with Sony, will let you know what happens.
Paul are you using cineform or magic bullet? are you using vegas 64bit or 32 bit
There must be a reason for the issues some people are having.
cheers john
John & Brian,
I'm importing uncompressed 720p Avi's (for easier playback in Vegas) which I render from the original 1080p BMP files generated in an animation application (TVPaint) so there is no camera involved in my pipeline. I'm using Vegas 32 bit and most of my sound tracks are WAV forms but occasionally I use Mp3 tracks too.

Vegas Pro 9d problems with Cineform clips, and rendering.

<< Moved to Cineform forum, to avoid cross-posting.. >>

Watching this thread with much interest, in the middle of two projects so can't take the plunge now...

I am no longer able to edit with 9d using my favorite editing style of using multiple instances of Vegas as scene bins and constructing the story by cut and pasting from the scene bins into the main time line.

With previous versions of Vegas I could rapidly scroll through my scene bins, but with 9d 64 bit one must wait for some time after shifting from one instance of Vegas to another before that instance will respond and then scrolling rapidly through it will cause it to hang up. There are no problems scrolling through the timeline with only one instance open.

I did not install 9d 32 bit and can still open the scene bins and scroll rapidly through them with 9c 32 bit.

I do like the improved pre-view image and the new white balance tool, but if losing the ability to edit using multiple instances of Vegas is the price that one must pay for this, I am very unhappy and will be re-installing 9c 64 bit.

For as much as I like and prefer Vegas, Sony is losing it. 9.0d 64bit gives memory errors, red screens, and refuses to render my usual converted AVCHD (converted to wmv by VotaicHD) mixed with stills so, after
an unpleasant half-day I uninstalled 9.0d and reinstalled 9.0c 64bit and now, at least, it works. I'm glad I don't depend on Sony Vegas for a living.
So much for my expectation of improvement!

9.0d 64bit gives memory errors, red screens...

That's not what I'm reading on this and other forums.
Most users are cheering because memory errors and red screens are finally gone.

...and refuses to render my usual converted AVCHD (converted to wmv by VotaicHD) mixed with stills...

WMV??
I've always found that it's one of the harder formats to edit, even in SD :-(
I'm sure you have a reason for doing it but I have to ask why you're converting to WMV when there are inexpensive proxy tools that would make your life much easier.

I have to agree with Mike, why are you converting AVCHD? I have been editing AVCHD native since Pro 8. It is not full resolution but more than adequate for editing. On my Q9450 I get smooth editing at about SD resolution and Pro 9 is about the same. If you really need to convert use Cineform at least it will then run faster if you have the disc speed.
9.0d upgraded for me really smooth.

Ron Evans

I set a restore point this morning in case I needed to back to Rev. C and installed both the 32 and 64-bit versions of Rev. D. My OS is Vista 64-bit. I have spent all day testing both the 32 and 64-bit versions with a wide variety of .veg files from past projects and have had no problems. One of the new features that I really like is the ability to load layered Photoshop files across tracks.

Hello,

I downloaded 9d last night, having until now been a confirmed and unshakeable fan of 8.0c. Prior trial versions of 9 didn't work well for me.

Such testing as I've managed to do so far indicate that 9d loads projects at least as fast as 8c, and plays back full HD AVCHD a bit quicker (eg solid 25fps on a clip with some colour correction, whereas 8c was hovering around the indicated 22fps or thereabouts on the same clip).

No crashes yet but early days... this is the 64 bit version running on Vista on a Dell XPS Core i7 920.

Well, that last post of mine was prophetic, in a bad way. No sooner had I posted it than Vegas 9d locked up trying to open an HDV project that I'd finished yesterday (in 8c) ... I think it's trying to do *something* because the %age progress indicator changes occasionally, but essentially it's as if the PC has locked up.

Ah well, I never minded the 8c colour scheme anyway :-)

Regards
David

PS Update: several minutes later the file HAS opened and Vegas 9d is running and playing the project like a charm. Weird

David, the extremely long load time with 9.0d is a common complaint and has been reported to Sony.

I'm LOVING IT!,
I don't even care if it takes a bit longer to open a project,
but men, finally, I can mix native 5D, ProRes, cineform and MXF in one timeline without red clips and IOSurrogate,
it feels like Christmass :)

Another new feature that I like in 9.0d is the ability to burn a DVD from the timeline. Prior versions would only burn Bluray discs. These discs have no menu, but for my purposes, it doesn't matter. In my work flow, I like to view an actual DVD of my project on a TV while I am still working on it. This is the best way to see what it will look like in ways that you can only see in this way. For example, in a recent project a neck tie on a subject had a distracting moiré pattern after it was rendered to a DVD. This pattern was only visible on a DVD; other rendered formats looked fine. This is also a good way to confirm how it will look in many other ways as well.

This is a small feature that's big to me because it makes burning a DVD from the timeline a "one-click" process.

Thanks, Jim for bringing this feature out -- I had totally missed it and can use it in a similar way you do -- I have to periodically send samples around to clients, sponsors and other interested parties and it's always just one disk, made in a hurry. I better go back and re-read what's new in D.

When I try Burning a DVD from Timeline I scoop say 5 mins of Timeline and I am told it is FAR too big to fit on a DVD. Do you have tweak you are using to get this, I agree, hopeful feature to do its thing?

Grazie

I'm LOVING IT!,
I don't even care if it takes a bit longer to open a project,
but men, finally, I can mix native 5D, ProRes, cineform and MXF in one timeline without red clips and IOSurrogate,
it feels like Christmass :)

Hi Buba, can you edit ProRes directly on the timeline without the plugin? I can't recall the name but I did it previously with a plugin to enable V8 to handle ProRes.

I can't turn off the Video Preview Window while rendering, I had that option in the Preference in Vegas 8, but can't find it in Vegas 9 !!

I fixed the slow load problem -- it's now faster than ever before. Go to my new thread on the subject.

Having updated now Vegas won't even recognise .mxf files if you want to 'add media'! If you open a folder to match media settings or anything like that, the search string at the bottom of the folder only shows .mxf files if you chose 'show all files', in other words Vegas can't see .xmf as default files. If I try and manually open a .mxf, Vegas cops a strop as says 'file cannot be opened'.
HELP ME! (Please)!
Oliver.

When I modify and save a v9.0c veg on my 32-bit and then open it on the 64-bit, the 64-bit does the following:

- says "Not Responding" in the title bar within seconds and stays that way for a long time
- when it finally comes around it asks for the location of an mp3, mpg, a few jpg's and all of the AVI's. I've tried this several times with various modifications to the veg and each time it can't find that same files. What is also interesting is that the AVI's are all in the same folder, but Vegas doesn't recognize this and therefore it prompts for each.
- when you're done telling Vegas where the files are, it freezes at 16% for a long time.
- I can then save it on the 64-bit and reopen without the lost files, but still extremely slow to open

I will definitely be going back to v9.0c as this is unacceptable. Sony should pull this update or at least post a warning on the download screen.

OK. Have just spent 1/2 hour on the phone to Liz @ Sony in the States!
It is possible(ie probable and Sony didn't think this one through) that Vegas 9D doesn't read/accept .mxf files that have been re-wrapped by XDCAM EX Browser. However, if you use the explorer tab in Vegas you can open the original source .mp4 quite easily and plop onto the timeline. Now, no problem if you have copied the mp4s from the camera/card to your disk drive without altering them. If, however like me you used XDCAM EX Browser and only have .mxf files of your work, there seems to be no easy/quick way to convert the files back to their original mp4 state. So, I've possibly been doing my workflow wrong (though it seems logical) or Sony have made a mahoosive cock up as this means you can't use previously archive/saved .mxf files in any newer version of Vegas then 9C. Anyhoo, I've sent Sony a small .mxf file that works in C not D and they'll look into it and let me know. Stay tuned.....
Oliver.

The pro type titler presets has no gradient fill color in. Its ok on a new title with no text effect but presets have problems. Black wrighting when swiped over do not show through the swipe bar but stays black and you cannot see any black wrighting, this is again ,only on titler presetts. When titler is in time line it seems to give low memory errors. Vegas 9d also crashes during rendering. I have 12 gb of ddr3 ram and a 4ghz processor so i have not got low memory. 9c was unstable but 9d is worse. I will now stick with 9b the only vegas version i find stable . I have emailed Sony tech support but i have been waiting 2 days for a responce.

For as much as I like and prefer Vegas, Sony is losing it. 9.0d 64bit gives memory errors, red screens, and refuses to render my usual converted AVCHD (converted to wmv by VotaicHD) mixed with stills so, after
an unpleasant half-day I uninstalled 9.0d and reinstalled 9.0c 64bit and now, at least, it works. I'm glad I don't depend on Sony Vegas for a living.
So much for my expectation of improvement!
Edit & Correction: I'm happy to report that 9.0d handles AVCHD (720 & 1080) mts files direct from my Panasonic GH1 flawlessly and quickly! It never occured to me when I upgraded to 9.0d that it would actually be able to mix stills and GH1 videos without first converting as I've been forced to do with the previous versions and when I used converted files as worked in 9.0c it was awful But when I tried direct editing of the AVCHD files from the camera, even mixed with stills, cross-faded, stretched, etc. 9.0d works great.
So, thank you Sony!

I am glad some people seem pleased!!!

I just down loaded 1 hour of straight Mt2 files and must say the 32 bit 9 d could not do the job for me that 8.0 and 9,0.

I shut down three times, reopened and tried to get after it.

I restored my computer and will wait a while and stay with 8.0c which I feel has been the soundest to date. Spent months with 9.0b and it was pretty good, but on longer projects (1.5 to 2 hour hd) it started the red frame issue for me!!!!

I also have huge amount of cineform files and that seems to be a problem as well!!!!

I know all software will have glitches, it comes with the turf. (Which is why i always have two different editors available)

however, it seems bizaar to release somethig that has so many issues, even if there are a lot of fixes involved.


I wonder if Edward is running this with no issues?



Dale Guthormsen

I've been at NAB all week and haven't yet had a chance to install 9.0d yet. I do plan to do so on my 64-bit machine but there's many file formats I don't typically use.

Sony have wrote to me and admitted the BUG on the PRO TYPE TITLER. The presets do not let you use gradient fill and black text is black even when swiped over. With a title created by the titler in the timeline rendering is a problem.Get all the low memory errors even using seconds of footage. Everything works fine on 9b.
How Sony can let this mess of an upgrade go out is beyond me. What are the beta testers doing?
The Pro Type Titler is one thing we use a lot and even that is not tested properly

The Beta testers are posting their experiences to forums - just like this one.

Hi Richard , but why release software even when the basics do not work correctly.

Sony have wrote to me and admitted the BUG on the PRO TYPE TITLER. Maybe 'cos BETA testers have pointed it out to SONY? Maybe that's it?

The Pro Type Titler is one thing we use a lot and even that is not tested properly Sure. Maybe the problems aren't a fix that is going to be quick as you and I would wish? BETA testers must have great patience and forbearance?

What are the beta testers doing? Bringing to the attention of SONY what they are finding. I would think that BETA testers aren't, necessarily, programmers? And as such wouldn't be privy to the Q&A work-flow and controls. It wouldn't be wise to have that as an option?

Hi Richard , but why release software even when the basics do not work correctly. Ah, and now that is an excellent question, which maybe you should address directly at SONY. I should think that any BETA tester, of any s/w, would need to sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). In which case that BETA tester would NOT be able to comment on any BETA development.

Grazie

Hi Graham i have asked that question to Sony, I dont expect a reply.