View Full Version : Shooting ENG style with EX1 & EX3


Craig Kovatch
February 13th, 2010, 03:18 PM
Has anyone done any ENG style shooting with either the EX1 or EX3? I'm talking about shooting with one hand on the tripod pan handle and one on the lens. I'm using a full size rig right now, with most of my shooting done like this. I'm thinking shooting would be very awkward with these cameras, without having a proper viewfinder to look into. Also, how stable do you guys find these little camera to be on a tripod when you're zoomed all the way in? As much as the PDW350 would fit the bill, it's beyond reach for me right now. Even the EX3 would be tight. The EX1 price wise is perfect. But I'd hate to sacrifice the "feel" of a full size camera.

Thank for you input.

Jerry Porter
February 13th, 2010, 03:24 PM
I know that at least two local D.C. T.V. stations shoot with EX1's all the time. When I talk to the guys running them they seems to love them because of the low weight factor.

Dave Nystul
February 13th, 2010, 03:35 PM
Craig,

I shoot ENG style with our EX-3 on a regular basis. The camera isn't perfect but it does so many things well I have learned to work with a few quirks. I have a Fujinon zoom controller that is on my tripod frequently, but when I'm on/off the tripod a lot it tends to stay off. Shot steadiness is really a function of your tripod. A Sachtler FSB 6 works just fine for me when I travel.

Dave

Charles Newcomb
February 13th, 2010, 04:57 PM
I also use the EX3 frequently for ENG. With the Sachtler FSB8 and carbon fiber quick release sticks, it's pretty solid. I've done live shots with the BNC monitor out and they look as good as any other Standard Definition. I've never done an SDI out HD live shot, however.

I bought a V-lock adapter. The bigger battery helps balance handheld shots, and it gives me a D-tap for the toplight.

I use the Varizoom controller because I can dial the zoom speed up or down to suit the needs of the shot.

0620090816a on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39123560@N03/3644085640/)

Tom Robertson
February 13th, 2010, 07:37 PM
Charles, what v-lock adapter are you using? I looked on B&H's website and couldn't find it.

Charles Newcomb
February 13th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Here you go...

Bebob Engineering | COCO-EX3-V V-Mount Battery | BE-COCO-EX3-V (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/591419-REG/Bebob_Engineering_BE_COCO_EX3_V_COCO_EX3_V_V_Mount_Battery_Adapter.html)

Tom Robertson
February 13th, 2010, 09:03 PM
Great! Couldn't seem to find it but that works! Thanks.

Jad Meouchy
February 13th, 2010, 09:54 PM
I have shot a ton of events, short films, and reality shows on the EX1 ENG-style and it works great. The ergonomics are great though it does give your right arm a workout ;)

Using a Vinten Vision 10 tripod, though it's a little overkill.

Ned Soltz
February 13th, 2010, 10:02 PM
I've set up my EX-3 for ENG-style work with DM Baseplate and Shoulder Mount, Bebob V-mount adapter, and ENG-Rig from DVTec. The added benefit of the ENG rig is that its baseplate has a Sony wedge for VCT-U14 plate. The ENG rig really completes the package allowing stable handling of the EX-3.

Craig Kovatch
February 13th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Thanks for the tips guys.

Dave, is that a hard drive recorder attached to your camera? Which Fujinon controller do you use? I have an 8 pin Fujinon my DSR130 that I wouldn't mind using.

Dave Nystul
February 14th, 2010, 12:40 PM
Craig,

the recorder is called a Nanoflash. It's mounted to the base plate of my camera on an Israeli arm. the Fujinon controller was given to me by one of our Engineers. I'm sorry I don't know the number but it works with all Fujinon broadcast lenses. (might be an SRD-92B)

Dave

David Issko
February 14th, 2010, 02:25 PM
I am waiting on an order for a Fujinon ERD-20A-A02 Zoom Demand and MCA-7 Mounting Clamp for my XS lens. Will definitely be a big help.

Steve Kalle
February 14th, 2010, 03:48 PM
I have the Varizoom VZ-Pro-EX VariZoom | VZ-Pro-EX Comfort-Grip Zoom Controller | VZ-PRO-EX (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/543232-REG/VariZoom_VZ_PRO_EX_VZ_Pro_EX_Comfort_Grip_Zoom_Controller.html)

and a Sachtler FSB 6 & EX1. I can't say enough good things about the Varizoom. I shoot mostly events and need to pan, zoom and focus quite often. The only things I would change would be the tripod head (to FSB 8 or DV-10SB) and add a 7-9" LCD. The FSB 6 is great but not strong enough for what I want to do (add mattebox, nanoflash & 2 wireless receivers).

Ian Planchon
February 15th, 2010, 12:03 PM
I shoot ENG with my ex3 as well. The only thing I still have a hard time getting used to zooming and panning. On a full size camera I use my left hand to handle focus and the zoom controls, and right hand handles the tripod handle. With the ex3 standard lens, the zoom rocker is a little further back, so I can simply reach over with my fingers and control it. I typically have to use my right hand to handle zoom, and left hand focus.

Craig Kovatch
February 15th, 2010, 10:26 PM
Hi Ian.

I shoot the same way with my bigger camera. Except I've gotten so used to having my eye pressed into a viewfinder, I'm worried about the difference in shooting style. Not to mention there's no way I could go without having a zoom controller on the pan handle. What stix are you using?

Ian Planchon
February 16th, 2010, 08:32 AM
I absolutely LOVE the viewfinder on the EX3, it is amazing. you won't miss your full size camera's VF once you switch.

I use the Cartoni Focus system, but don't have a remote zoom controller on the handle.

Marc Myers
February 16th, 2010, 09:29 AM
I've an EX1 and I frankly have lot of trouble using it ENG. Not so much it's ergonomics, I shoot on a tripod as often as I can and find the controls to be pretty sensible. The shallow depth of field and the indifferent monitoring make getting sharp focus tricky, particularly when you are fairly close to your subject and have to work fast. I'd imagine the better eyepiece on the EX3 or the improvements in the EX1r might make this easier. The EX1 also has pretty laissez-faire auto iris and that's trouble as well when you need to run and gun. I came from a DSR-300, a camera that saved me time after time. EX1 is a different creature.

Tom Roper
February 16th, 2010, 11:26 AM
The problem with the EX1 solved by the EX1r and EX3 is that the optical viewfinder is not resolved enough for critical focus, and the LCD while sharp is not shielded from ambient light. A hoodman or sockloupe should help there.

Barry J. Weckesser
February 16th, 2010, 11:27 AM
I absolutely LOVE the viewfinder on the EX3, it is amazing. you won't miss your full size camera's VF once you switch.

I use the Cartoni Focus system, but don't have a remote zoom controller on the handle.

I use this fulltime on my EX1(HOODMAN EX1 KIT-Hoodman Corporation (http://hoodmanusa.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HEX1KIT)) - adjustable optics. I believe it comes close to reproducing what you see with the EX3 viewfinder

Shaughan Flynn
February 16th, 2010, 12:20 PM
Dave - what is the finder eyecup you are using?

Dave Nystul
February 16th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Shaughan,

I use the Viewfinder Eyecushion by Bluestar. It's a chamois material that I really like. Keeps the grime off my viewfinder when its hot and helps create a better seal against light. The Oval Small for Betacam fits our EX-3 perfectly.

Dave