Well...hmmm...all I can say is that you may not want to count Audition out in the long run just yet...

I sincerely hope not. It's been good for us for a long time...long before Adobe ever bought it.

Very happy to hear that there are so many Audition supporters. We, like Stephen, go back to the pre-Adobe Cool Edit days and love the program. There is an Audition window constantly open on my computer.

I agree.
I've tried to fiddle with Soundbooth several times, but why wade through a non intuitive learning curve when Audition does absolutely everything I need, whether audio for video, or multitrack music editing.

I realize this is an older thread but the subject is still valid. Especially with the time lapse.

Can anyone (probably with the first name of David) offer more current updates as what a CS5 user running on Mac can expect from Cineform V5?

I first used Aspect HD with Ppro 6.0/6.5 back in 2003/2004. As a matter of fact, I purchased Aspect HD from David Newman on the spot after he demoed the product at a HDV (JVC HD10) class in North Hollywood. At that time it was the only way to edit HDV barring the software supplied with the camera, and I won't go there. Well my memories of that experience are great. However, when my PC had a melt down I decided to switch to a Mac Pro machine. Also since I already had a license for Premiere Pro a cross platform upgrade seemed to be the way to go. I also just plain like working with Premiere and Encore. Hence, CS4 on a Mac. Well I need not rehash all that's already been said. I'm looking back at the DVD's I made using Ppro 6.5 and Aspect in that time period and am convinced that they have less noise, less artifacts and better color than anything I've done on CS4 without Cinefore. The loss of scene detection alone seemed like a big step backwards.

Well I'll cut to the chase. I'm going to upgrade to CS5. If for no other reason, to get scene detection on HDV capture back. I have a "boat" load of old HDV material left to archive and publish and scene detection is a great plus for me. Also my next camera is likely to be AVCHD based. I'm going to upgrade to NeoHD V5. If for no other reason, to get back the color and clarity that I felt was a factor of the Aspect code. Plus from all I've read, First Light sounds like a great addition. However I'm wonder how well NeoHD V5 will be integrated into CS5 on Mac? The Cineform home page does state that V5 for Mac will be offered a "couple of months" after V5 for PC's. The Cineform site seems to say I can "upgrade" to NeoHD V4 from Aspect HD even if I'm updating to a Mac platform. I'm not likely to even use V4 but I'm not sure I'll be able to "upgrade" to NeoHD V5 from Aspect HD when the Mac version of V5 is available?

Any input on all this would be greatly appreciated. I believe in your products and would like to get back to the work flow I had so many years ago.

Best to all

Hi Raymond, I'm sure we'll have an upgrade path from AHD to NeoHD without a new full-price purchase, but we just haven't published it yet. We expect excellent integration on Mac for CS5. Previously our CSx support on Mac was not very good because our Windows CSx implementation was not portable to Mac. This time, when we did the CS5 work on Windows we wrote it in a manner that was cross-platform compatible. So...expect all the good things you enjoyed about CineForm in the past to be available for CS5 on Mac within about two months after the Windows release.

In case you haven't seen it, following is a tech blog post that discusses the features for CS5, all of which should be available on Mac in the not-too-distant future: Cineform Tech Blog Blog Archive Announcing Neo Family Version 5 (http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=2807).

Thanks David!

This is what I was hoping to hear. I had read the Announcement you linked up. But I hadn't focused on the "HD LINK (WIN) AAND REMASTER (MAC)" paragraph stating that even the updated HD Link utility is probably going to lag a bit after release of V5. So I don't feel so bad anymore. The bottom line is I should be up and running with CS5, NeoHDv5 on a Mac by mid summer. Good news indeed.

I've always appreciated that the two major principles within a company as progressive and growing as you are, can find the time to answer their customers as you do.

Thanks again, looking forward to the Cineform experience once again!