View Full Version : HM700 with 14x Canon Lens can use WCV82SC !!!


Asaf Benatia
December 31st, 2009, 03:54 PM
Hello all!
I don't know if anybody knows this, cuz I didn't see it anywere, But the WCV82SC can be screwed to the inside mount of the 14x lens hood!

anyone tried that?

if not which WA is the best option?

Asaf

Thomas Klausnitz
March 21st, 2010, 03:37 PM
Hi Asaf,

in 2 Weeks i can give you some information about it, when i get my hm700 with canon lens.

The first i´ll do, is mounting the jvc wide angle on the canon...

That´s a fine idea, because...it goes up to 70 degrees... by factor 0,82.

greets...

thomas

Asaf Benatia
March 23rd, 2010, 03:59 PM
Hi,
I tried it, and it works perfectly!

Thomas Klausnitz
March 24th, 2010, 02:09 AM
hi asaf,

thats sounds nice. i will use this combination to, as first for the wide angle.

You have an vignetting or has the wcv enough potential?

But, thanks for this info, i´m to be curious when i get my hm700 on next monday.

thomas

Eric Deyerler
March 24th, 2010, 11:52 AM
Professional 0.8x wide conversion lens. 82mm.
It will be nearly like the 13xFujinon 3,5 lens - but cheaper, probably with some CAs

Eric Deyerler
March 26th, 2010, 04:28 AM
Some German distributors say, it don't work with the HM700, you can't zoom in without vignette.

Asaf Benatia
March 26th, 2010, 10:23 AM
yes i can!
it works great!

Eric Deyerler
March 27th, 2010, 12:26 PM
and you see no vignette on the wide end of the Canon 14x lens

Thomas Klausnitz
March 28th, 2010, 01:25 AM
oh, thats nice, thank you guys for these information, so i can use my wsc-82 to get an 3.6mm super wide angle objective.
i will test this tomorrow when i get my gy-hm700.

thanks, thomas

Steve J. Nordahl
March 29th, 2010, 08:13 AM
I'm with Eric on this one... at $500+ bucks, i'd like to see a sample video that shows that this WA adapter can be used on the 14X canon lens, and you see no vignette on the wide end...

I can tell you that the Canon 14x lens hood is barely big enough as I found out. I have a rain cover that has a hood and I made the mistake of letting it get past the front of the lens hood. It could be seen at full wide and only 1/32nd of an inch was past the hood.

Although not apples to apples, as a test, I tried to stack a couple filters I used my thin Kasemann CP filter, and just for ha ha's added another standard filter on top. sure enough it vignetted on the wide end of the Canon 14x lens.

The rather thick housing on the WA adapter makes me believe it will be visable before you even get to full wide. Even more is the fact that it mounts onto the hood which projects it out even further.

Please provide more information...

Steve Nordahl
Bethlehem, Pa.

Asaf Benatia
March 29th, 2010, 08:20 AM
Hi,
this clip is mostly with WCV-82sc on canon 14x.
you can see.. almost all shots are wide open.

we here in israel in holiday for the next 2 days, when i back i will make a shot with and without the adapter.

??? ????? ???? ??????? HD on Vimeo

Eric Deyerler
March 29th, 2010, 02:27 PM
Can you make a picture from the cam with the lens, do you mount the wide-extender inside the hood?!

Asaf Benatia
March 29th, 2010, 03:01 PM
yes
inside the hood

Eric Deyerler
March 29th, 2010, 04:51 PM
really you make that in the hood and it works!

Thomas Klausnitz
March 30th, 2010, 12:28 PM
I made Screenshots from a testshoot.



As first, Wide without WCV and with Canon 14x: (both same distance)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7126/widewowsc.th.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/widewowsc.jpg/)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/302/widewithwsc.th.jpg (http://img696.imageshack.us/i/widewithwsc.jpg/)

and the second two, Tele without WCV and with Canon 14x: (both same distance)

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6991/telewowsc.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/telewowsc.jpg/)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1387/telewithwsc.th.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/telewithwsc.jpg/)


Theres no vignetting, but i think the CA is heavy with or w/o WCV.

Thomas

Eric Deyerler
March 30th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Normally you don't see the CAs, only on the wide-end in the edges, what I see is,
that with the extended lens the CA get a little bit less.
Sometimes you see CAs on areas with great contrast, like direct black to white -colours.

Some clips like this Gru?hnwald 83200-v04_ton05_final_korrigiert 28_3 on Vimeo
are made with the HM700 and some image-shots.
And I say that I see on all cameras CA, also P2, DigiBeta, BetaSP and
other Professional-Formats

PS: Ich sage und versuche bereits bei der Aufnahme starke Kontrastkanten und Übergänge Schwarz zu Weiss zu vermeiden und dadurch die CAs zu minimieren, die CAs hängen auch von verwendeter Blende ab.

I just ordered an WCV82SC for round about 170 Euro.

Michael Hurley
July 25th, 2010, 05:38 PM
Normally you don't see the CAs, only on the wide-end in the edges, what I see is,
that with the extended lens the CA get a little bit less.
Sometimes you see CAs on areas with great contrast, like direct black to white -colours.

Some clips like this Gru?hnwald 83200-v04_ton05_final_korrigiert 28_3 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/9639457)
are made with the HM700 and some image-shots.
And I say that I see on all cameras CA, also P2, DigiBeta, BetaSP and
other Professional-Formats

PS: Ich sage und versuche bereits bei der Aufnahme starke Kontrastkanten und Übergänge Schwarz zu Weiss zu vermeiden und dadurch die CAs zu minimieren, die CAs hängen auch von verwendeter Blende ab.

I just ordered an WCV82SC for round about 170 Euro.

Hi Eric,

Can you let me know where you were able to find a WCV82SC for €170??

Thanks.

Michael.

Eric Deyerler
July 27th, 2010, 05:01 PM
I bought one from an ebay-dealer from Krefeld (Aventomedien)

Myles Williams
August 1st, 2010, 03:06 AM
Footage to follow shortly. Just got this from Schneider Optics.

.8 HD W/A Converter ( zoom thru).

https://www.schneideroptics.com/ecommerce/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?CID=1555&IID=7636

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs171.snc4/37901_445014807717_590462717_6029692_502725_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs094.ash2/38018_445014857717_590462717_6029695_3678063_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs208.snc4/38733_445014897717_590462717_6029699_3680875_n.jpg