View Full Version : Hdmi to Component converter?


Bruce S. Yarock
October 17th, 2009, 09:58 AM
I have two monitors; a Switt 8" and a Gateway 26" . They both have component in, as opposed to hdmi. Has anyone else found an hdmi to component converter that doesn't need power (other than battery).
Here's one rhar's fairly expensive and I think has to come from China.

For only $136.00 each when QTY 50+ purchased - HDFURY2 - HDMI TO VGA/Component(RGB/Y,Pr,Pb) CONVERTER *BLUE EDITION* (STANDARD EDITION) | HDFury - HDMI(DVI) to RGB Converter (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=5035&seq=1&format=2)

Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Dan Brockett
October 17th, 2009, 10:05 AM
Hi Bruce:

Considering you can buy nice new HDMI capable monitors at Costco for close to the $141.00 that one of these would cost, I would just buy a cheap HDMI monitor or two. The have a really cute Phillips that is black that my local Costco had for $179.00.

I am in the same boat with two Sony 17" monitors that have DVI, composite and component, but no HDMI. This is a case where repurposing your old monitors and just buying a new one makes more sense to me.

But if you do go for it, let us know how it works.

Dan

Bruce S. Yarock
October 17th, 2009, 10:18 AM
Dan
One of those is fine if you have power. I need something I can use with a battery on location with the Switt monitor.
Bruce Yarock

Matthew Nayman
October 17th, 2009, 11:24 AM
The issue with the HD fury, again, is that you need power :(

You might just want to look into an inexpensive onboard, like the IKAN v5600 or v8000

Jean-Philippe Archibald
October 17th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Maximum power : 0.4A under 5V (at 1080p/60)

So you could probably power it with 4 AA battery using a housing like this one:
PKG 2,4 X AA 4AA 6V BATTERY PP3 HOLDER CASE BOX w LEADS on eBay.ca (item 250513961762 end time 13-Nov-09 08:04:58 EST) (http://cgi.ebay.ca/PKG-2-4-X-AA-4AA-6V-BATTERY-PP3-HOLDER-CASE-BOX-w-LEADS_W0QQitemZ250513961762QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a53cbb322)

Im interested in this unit too. let me know if you buy one.

Bruce S. Yarock
October 17th, 2009, 05:00 PM
Jean Phollope,
How would you connect it to the adapter?
Bruce Yarock

Jean-Philippe Archibald
October 17th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I suppose it must have some sort of power jack input?

I assumed that the unit you linked was the equivalent of this one: HDMI to Component Video YPbPr & Audio Converter Adapter on eBay.ca (item 350242308449 end time 19-Oct-09 02:23:48 EDT) (http://cgi.ebay.ca/HDMI-to-Component-Video-YPbPr-Audio-Converter-Adapter_W0QQitemZ350242308449QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518c118161)

But it may be not the case.

Ben McElroy
October 18th, 2009, 07:48 PM
pick up one of these bad boys..
ikancorp.com: V8000HDMI 8" High Definition TFT LCD Monitor (http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monitors/V8000hdmi/index.htm)

Barry Green
October 19th, 2009, 10:27 AM
The issue with the HD fury, again, is that you need power :(
Yes, BUT -- I can confirm that the 7D actually supplies the necessary power over its HDMI connection! I'm using an HD Fury II with the 7D, and it does *not* need any additional power supplied.

That is not the case with other HDMI devices I tried it with (such as the GH1 and the HMC40); with those cameras it won't work without external power. But the 7D supplies power, so if you want an HDMI to component solution, I can confirm that the HD Fury II works with the 7D. (don't know about the original HD Fury, but definitely the HD Fury II works).

Bruce S. Yarock
October 19th, 2009, 12:42 PM
barry,
Thanks. that's excellent news. So I can use it alsi in lication.
Bruce yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Benjamin Eckstein
October 19th, 2009, 02:22 PM
That IS excellent news Barry. What monitor are you hooking up to and does it seem to preserve the image through the adapter?

I too have a component only field monitor (the RP70-HDA) and it is quite nice, and I'd rather not get a different monitor as I think it's better than the cheaper Ikans and I don't feel like dropping 2K for the nice, newer Marshalls, so if the adapter works, I am sold. I could probably sell it but I doubt I'd get enough to even cover one of the Ikans for it.

Matthew Nayman
October 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM
That is excellent news Barry. Bravo.

Mind you, I will still ditch my SWIT, as the 16x9 pillar box AND letterbox thing really bugs me! Looks like Manhattan LCD for moi...

Barry Green
October 19th, 2009, 10:28 PM
Panasonic BT-LH80W. The HDFuryII includes a component breakout cable, and an RGB adapter. It doesn't include a power supply. I ordered one from monoprice (it was $2, how can you argue with that) to be able to use it with other HDMI cameras (like my GH1, which doesn't supply power).

The image looks good, but frankly it's not that easy to tell with the 7D as-is, because it outputs a shrunken image. Once Tramm gets through with it, if it's outputting a full 1080 image, then we'll be able to judge. It was fairly heavenly to be able to do dynamic-range testing and use the monitor's built-in waveform monitor though, I must say.

Bruce S. Yarock
October 21st, 2009, 02:21 AM
I ordered the HD Fury 11 with the $2.00 power supply, and should have it tomorrow.
Bruce Yarock

Barry Green
October 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM
Yeah, I also had to order the power supply separately. $1.95 for the power supply... monoprice rules.

Christopher Lovenguth
October 21st, 2009, 10:22 PM
I have two monitors; a Switt 8" and a Gateway 26" . They both have component in, as opposed to hdmi. Has anyone else found an hdmi to component converter that doesn't need power (other than battery).


This sounds obvious to ask but neither of these monitors have DVI? I don't think the Switt does correct, but neither does the Gateway? I find that hard to believe for any computer monitor made in the last 3-5 years. Usually if there is more then VGA (and you are saying there is component in) there is usually a DVI port.

A simple HDMI-DVI cable is all that is needed in this case. I use that cable with a mini-HDMI male to HDMI female cable on my 5D and all is well.

Bruce S. Yarock
October 22nd, 2009, 05:45 AM
The switt has a vga and the Gateway has dvi. I have a hdmi- dvi adapter, whuch I tried on the gateway, but got no signal.
I assumed it wouldn't work, so I ordered the hd fury. Hope it works.
Bruce Yarock

Christopher Lovenguth
October 22nd, 2009, 08:41 AM
Strange because I have two hdmi-dvi cables that both work and onw hdmi-dvi adapter that works as well on my gateway FPD2185W. I even love the fact that on this monitor if you set it to zoom when you start recording and the 5D goes in to 480 mode, the monitor still has this huge image (although obviously pixelated).

Bruce S. Yarock
October 23rd, 2009, 06:34 AM
Up date-

I get the 7D to play through the gtrway with an adpter pluf that goes from hdmi to dvi. It lloks good but the image is not fill screen ( no idea).
I had orederd the Fury HD 11, and ried it on my Sony monitor, and unfortunately, it won't work without the piwer supply. When powered it looks great.
this is a pain in the ass because I wnted to be able to also monitor the 7d oit doors through my Switt. But if the HD Fury needs power, that won't work.

When I have tome, I'll try the HD furey with my Gteway and Switt.
Bruce yarock

Christopher Lovenguth
October 23rd, 2009, 02:54 PM
Bruce check to see if you have a zoom option on your gateway. If you choose that over 1:1 in video scaling, the image will fill the screen. Just note that it's still only 480p so it's going to be really low-res, but for me, that's fine since the type of shooting I do I can focus adequate on the low-res.

Bruce S. Yarock
October 25th, 2009, 05:04 AM
barry,
I got Fuyru HD11 from monoprice, and tried in both my Gateway and a sony high def crt television. Looks great on both, but one big problem...It won't work without the power supply! This is ok indoors but doesn't help me on location, where I wanted to use it with the Switt monitor.
I'm using a 6' mini to regular hdmi cable from radio shack, connected to the Fury HD ii. You said that yours works with 7d without the power suppley. Any idera why mine wouldn't?
Bruce Yarock
Yarock Video and Photo (http://www.yarockvideo.com)

Barry Green
November 2nd, 2009, 01:25 AM
Update - my 7D does power the HD Fury II, but -- not enough. It works for a little while, and then it looks like the intensity of the signal drops about 10-15%. I've taken to using the HD Fury's power supply even with the 7D. Even though the 7D does supply HDMI power, I don't think it's enough to make the system work properly.