I hate to say it because I was sent a card to look at for Hoodman and ut checked out fine when I tested it.

Last month I set my EX-1 to record non-stop with a 16gb Hoodman card and got a "media error" message ater 15 minutes.

I was recording 720p60 HQ.

I use Nanoflashes now as I do not trust any non-native internal recording method with these cameras. I think Sony purposefully put some barbs in the process to keep people trusting SxS.

I don't buy that because by definition that would nobble their own hard disk recorder which also operates via the USB bus.

What did Hoodman have to say? As it is a premium card and they offer support they should be looking at it and analysing what went wrong.

As soon as Hoodman announce a UK supplier, I'll be buying one or two to try (providing the costs aren't silly). I'm sure I won't be the only one.


I was told they will be in the UK early next week at a cost of £79 for a 16gb card and £40 for the reader.

I don't buy that because by definition that would nobble their own hard disk recorder which also operates via the USB bus.

What did Hoodman have to say? As it is a premium card and they offer support they should be looking at it and analysing what went wrong.

I don't think this is a Hoodman card issue. I think this is a 'not intended recording method' issue from the camera.

I have not called Hoodman as I gave up on the MxR route.

These cards do not come as EX series certified. They are just memory cards.

All of the MxR'ers are out in no man's land recording with a non-sanctioned method. Sony is not going to offer support so it is a risk to use any brand of card imho.

Marcus, I'm presuming that you're using the promax 1.
ATP promax 2 is SLC, but only goes up to 8gb.

Paul.

I don't think this is a Hoodman card issue. I think this is a 'not intended recording method' issue from the camera.

I have not called Hoodman as I gave up on the MxR route.

These cards do not come as EX series certified. They are just memory cards.

All of the MxR'ers are out in no man's land recording with a non-sanctioned method. Sony is not going to offer support so it is a risk to use any brand of card imho.

It's all very well saying that but perhaps what would have been better was to send the card to Hoodman for analysis. They would have been able to clarify if the card was at fault or not, or even the adaptor. Anything else is speculation.

Sony will never make SDHC solutions certified. SxS is a big fat cash cow that they want to milk because people like me aren't spending £7.50 per 40 minutes of DVCAM.

Perhaps SDHC is at fault. But what about the people who have been happily shooting for months with no problems? My theory is that perhaps some of these cards aren't able to write consistently fast enough across the entire card to keep up. The EX1 has no cache so when the camera hits a slow spot on the card that is where the problem occurs.

SxS is fast enough not to need a cache so there is a design aspect in the EX1 in that respect.

So that might be the problem, simply that the EX1 has no cache and that some of these consumer grade cards have varying write speeds. The HD unit won't suffer this problem because it should be more consistent. SDHC is fast but perhaps some of these cards aren't consistent?

Only a theory and a crackpot one at that.

Marcus, I'm presuming that you're using the promax 1.
ATP promax 2 is SLC, but only goes up to 8gb.

Paul.

Presumably. They are 16GB cards but don't say if they are 1 or 2.

I guess they are 1 as "Jaws" wasn't called "Jaws 1" (if you see what I mean).

ATP promax 2 has 2 written on the card.

ATP ELECTRONICS, INC. (http://www.atpinc.com/p2-4a.php?sn=00000159)

Paul.

So that might be the problem, simply that the EX1 has no cache and that some of these consumer grade cards have varying write speeds. The HD unit won't suffer this problem because it should be more consistent. SDHC is fast but perhaps some of these cards aren't consistent?

Only a theory and a crackpot one at that.


I don't think it is crackpot, that is why I spent up for the Nanoflash.

It was a better investment than a lot of SxS in my book.

You are correct about sending the card to Hoodman, but I have a lot of more important stuff going on right now. I just wanted to share my experience.

ATP promax 2 has 2 written on the card.
Paul.

Wonder what card reader would you use with these cards for the EX1/3
Would the Kensington be suitable?

Wonder what card reader would you use with these cards for the EX1/3
Would the Kensington be suitable?

You are probably better off with the MXR cards as these cards are designed specifically for the EX1/3. I'm sure the Kensington cards work but I personally wouldn't use them.

Anthony, do you mean card reader as in the card reader to get the footage into your pc ?
You could use the mxr if you have an express slot as the mxr obviously works with these cards, i bet that the kensington would work also.
I'd also bet that the transcend and sandisk sdhc>usb reader works, i can get the transcend ones for about a fiver.

Paul.

What i mean is.. at the moment I insert my 16gb transcend SDHC card into the Kensington 7-in-1 Media Reader then put that into my EX3.

What I was curious about is, would the ATP promax SDHC card also work with the Kensington 7-in-1 Media Reader for recording with the EX3.