View Full Version : Headphones, need advice


K.C. Kennedy
September 25th, 2009, 03:03 PM
I'm on a $100 budget for a set of good noise cancelling headphones I'll use with Sony HDR-FX1. Thank you in advance.
KC.

Jordan Block
September 25th, 2009, 03:30 PM
If you're trying to monitor what you're recording, the last thing you want is any sort of noise cancellation in your phones. You need to hear exactly what's going to tape.

That said, the next 50 responses to the thread are going to read:

"Sony MDR-7506"

(with the occasional "Sennheiser HD280" thrown in for good measure.)

Rick Reineke
September 25th, 2009, 04:00 PM
#2 of 50: ditto

Jeffery Magat
September 25th, 2009, 04:05 PM
HD-280 over here. :)

Bill Rankin
September 25th, 2009, 04:27 PM
The Sony MDR-7506's work fine, however, the cushions tend to come off easily and they are difficult to get back on. After a while they don't stay on the headphone very easily. Now the cushion is just clamped between the headphone and my ear.

If you buy this headphone, be gentle with it when you put it on and take it off.

My next headphone will not be the MDR 7506.

Scott Nelson
September 25th, 2009, 04:35 PM
Hd-201, Not the best... But I will be upgrading soon to the 280

Adam Gold
September 25th, 2009, 05:10 PM
KC--

As I mentioned in your other thread (for the benefit of others here) if you buy the 7506es before the end of the year you get a free copy of Acid, worth about $50. Details at B&H.

Jon Fairhurst
September 25th, 2009, 05:30 PM
That said, the next 50 responses to the thread are going to read:

"Sony MDR-7506"

(with the occasional "Sennheiser HD280" thrown in for good measure.)

Spot on!

Comparing the two, the 7506 is a bit "sweeter" and can cut through outside sounds a bit better. The HD280 is a bit more neutral, and is the better choice for a midnight mix, when monitors just aren't an option - or for a sanity check against your monitors.

Of course, the best approach is to try before you buy - and to give your money to the local shop that gave you the hands-on opportunity.

Battle Vaughan
September 25th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Yes, 7506; my friend with the Sennheiser 280's say they hurt his head after a while....nice thing about the Sonys is the parts are actually replacable...unlike most phones. Second the idea about noise-cancelling; I did news before my retirement, always wanted to hear what was going on around me, sometimes things sneak up on you from your blind side, always good to have situational awareness...cancelling the outside sound could actually be dangerous, depending on what work you are doing...my dos centavos...Battle Vaughan.miamiherald.com retired videographer

Chris Swanberg
September 25th, 2009, 07:23 PM
7506 is the choice here.

Jon Fairhurst
September 25th, 2009, 09:45 PM
Yes, 7506; my friend with the Sennheiser 280's say they hurt his head after a while....nice thing about the Sonys is the parts are actually replacable...unlike most phones.

The HD280s are tight at first and break in. The good news is that they stay put. :)

And like the Sony's, there are replacement parts. I've replaced the ear pads. (The pads don't wear out quickly. They got some one-time, unintended abuse.)

Zack Allen
September 26th, 2009, 01:14 AM
7506 for the budget for sure. HD280's are nice..sound great.. but will fatigue you really fast. They are a super tight fit (i've always found at least).

Andy Wilkinson
September 26th, 2009, 04:22 AM
Yes Sony 7506 are really excellent except for the annoying habit (mentioned earlier above) about the ear cushions coming off/being a pain to get back on - more info on that and some solutions in the link below.

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/all-things-audio/143826-earpiece-overcovers-headphones.html

David Ruhland
September 26th, 2009, 04:56 AM
I just purchased a pair of 7506 this week, so far so good! I paid 91.00 for them

Rick Reineke
September 26th, 2009, 09:03 AM
I use the Garfield soft covers on my 7506. They keep the ear pads from coming off and provide additional protection and winter/summer comfort. (for me anyway)

Phil Bambridge
September 26th, 2009, 11:08 AM
I was a bit concerned that having soft overcovers such as the Garfields would allow more ambient sound to sneak in- is it that noticeable?

OP- you don't say if you have a particular need for attenuating exogenous noise (i.e. filming on an oil rig or at a rock concert).

There are things sold that are tantamount to ear defenders with 7506s retro-fitting to them. Don't know if this changes their sonic characteristics, but if not, might be an option. Probably heavier though. Or there are the in-ear canalphones- there are some made for on-stage performers that might be worth a look.

However, for occasional use in loud environments, where you just want a sanity check (is it really recording?), I would have thought it quite useful to have a noise-cancelling set.

Rick Reineke
September 26th, 2009, 11:31 AM
The sonic difference and isolation characteristics using the Garfield Softies is negligible IMO. I use in-ear HPs for high SPL situations
Though I think Trew Audio offers a modified high iso version of the 7506.

K.C. Kennedy
September 26th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Thank you so much.

Dean Sensui
September 26th, 2009, 06:25 PM
I have a friend who is a recording engineer/songwriter/singer and he recommended the Audio Technica AT-M50.

"WAY better on the ears than the Sonys. Accurate and easy on the ears in the treble range. Also, well made."

I have yet to buy an M50.

I use a pair of in-ear Sennheiser CX-380 earphones. Sounds OK. Keeps stray noises out fairly well. They're also compact and allow me to wear a wide-brimmed hat to keep my head out of the sun as much as possible. Conventional headphones, with the overhead band, requires that I wear a ball cap which isn't as protective.

Pete Cofrancesco
September 26th, 2009, 09:19 PM
I own a pair of 7506, which are the standard for field work. My only complaint is when I wear them for long periods of time my ear lobes get sore pressing up against the insides. I've felt more comfortable high end headphones at the apple store but they boost bass too much, are too expensive, and aren't durable enough for field work.

Zack Allen
September 27th, 2009, 03:23 AM
I personally use a pair of MDRV-900's that I don't think are even in production anymore. I got them about 8 years ago and have been using them since. They're so comfortable that I forget to take them off during downtime.

Rick Reineke
September 27th, 2009, 09:41 AM
I have not tried the AT-M50 yet, but I have read favorable reviews, Including our own reliable source Ty Ford.
I also see that Shure has released it's own version of the 7506 style. The SRH440 & SRH840 is priced accordingly to compete with Sony and AT. Has anyone tried them yet? Ty?

Shaun Roemich
September 27th, 2009, 04:39 PM
I use audio-technica ATH-M40fs cans with my field mixer and I'm quite happy.

Dan Jones
September 27th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I notice the 7506s come with a screw on 1/4" adapter. Does this mean you can't use standard (non screw-in) adapters?

Jordan Block
September 27th, 2009, 06:47 PM
I notice the 7506s come with a screw on 1/4" adapter. Does this mean you can't use standard (non screw-in) adapters?

Normal adapters work just fine.

Dan Jones
September 27th, 2009, 06:59 PM
Another matter that came up during a recent V.O. recording was the talent wanted to wear the cans so he could hear himself. Fair enough but any movement he made, even simple gesticulating would cause the headphones to creak and click, which the mic picked up mercilessly! We pressed on without him wearing the cans so he could stay 'in character'.

How are the 7506s for this?

Is that to be expected with any 'phones

And has anyone else encountered / solved this?

Thanks

Steve House
September 28th, 2009, 04:13 AM
Another matter that came up during a recent V.O. recording was the talent wanted to wear the cans so he could hear himself. Fair enough but any movement he made, even simple gesticulating would cause the headphones to creak and click, which the mic picked up mercilessly! We pressed on without him wearing the cans so he could stay 'in character'.

How are the 7506s for this?

Is that to be expected with any 'phones

And has anyone else encountered / solved this?

Thanks

It is incredibly difficult for voice talent to do their job properly without wearing cans and insisting your talent try to work without phones is seriously crippling his ability to deliver an optimum performance. Wearing headphones is the normal practice and virtually all professional voice-overs, narration, or ADR are recorded using them. Virtually all studio music recordings are made with the talent wearing phones as well. The Sonys and other professional quality phones are made with this in mind and in my experience are completely noise free in use. I've used both Sony and Sennheiser and never had a problem with mechanical noise from the phones per se, though bleed can be an issue if you use open-backed phones at high volumes. Computer headsets or cheap consumer gear might be another story.

Dan Jones
September 28th, 2009, 08:00 AM
Yeah that's what I thought - the headphones while probably fine in their day are due for replacement. A set of 7506s is probably what I'll recommend.

It hasn't been that uncommon that an actor will prefer to work without wearing phones - maybe they feel less restricted or something - but my line of work is character animation which sometimes involves recording actors more than dedicated VO guys or singers - and as long as the signal coming through is clear & strong, I just let them work however they're comfortable.

Its all good until they start full-body convulsions to pretend they're being electrocuted or grunting out dialog to convince you they're fighting 50 enemy swordsmen at the time!

Steve House
September 28th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Yeah that's what I thought - the headphones while probably fine in their day are due for replacement. A set of 7506s is probably what I'll recommend.

It hasn't been that uncommon that an actor will prefer to work without wearing phones - maybe they feel less restricted or something - but my line of work is character animation which sometimes involves recording actors more than dedicated VO guys or singers - and as long as the signal coming through is clear & strong, I just let them work however they're comfortable.

Its all good until they start full-body convulsions to pretend they're being electrocuted or grunting out dialog to convince you they're fighting 50 enemy swordsmen at the time!

If they're moving around THAT much I'd expect problems keeping them on-mic would override any headphone problems. Good VO talent should be able to get all that inflection while keeping their mouth a fixed (close) distance from the mic.

Jeff Kellam
September 30th, 2009, 12:28 PM
I'm on a $100 budget for a set of good noise cancelling headphones I'll use with Sony HDR-FX1. Thank you in advance.
KC.

K.C.

The 7506s are not only great for your use but they are nice for portable music and video players or anything they will plug in to. Im always having to find where the kids put them when they listen to the Zune or something.

Pretty well built for under $100USD

Jordan Nash
September 30th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Another vote for the HD-280s. I like the tight feel.