View Full Version : FYI, QuickTime 7


Heath McKnight
April 29th, 2005, 08:51 AM
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=306844#post306844

heath

Christopher C. Murphy
April 29th, 2005, 10:00 AM
What the heck! My "Quicktime Pro" has been blown away! Anyone else have their "Pro" staus killed by upgrading??

Boyd Ostroff
April 29th, 2005, 10:09 AM
I'll bet you will have to re-register for QT 7 Pro. Or at least that was the case when I installed QT 6, it wouldn't accept my QT 5 pro registration. I imagine that FCP 5 will include QT 7 pro, but that won't help much for now...

Steve Connor
April 29th, 2005, 10:46 AM
Upgraders beware! You will need a new key for QT Pro! Always read ALL documentation before upgrading

Christopher C. Murphy
April 29th, 2005, 10:56 AM
Wait, if we upgrade to Final Cut Pro Studio - I believe it's going to be included?? If so, we can all hang loose for another couple of weeks..

EDIT:

Confirmation from Apple's site:

"What applications are included in Final Cut Studio?
Final Cut Studio includes Final Cut Pro 5, Soundtrack Pro, Motion 2 and DVD Studio Pro 4. You’ll also get several applications designed to round out the production workflow: Compressor 2, Cinema Tools 3, Apple Qmaster 2, LiveType 2 and QuickTime Pro 7. In addition, Final Cut Studio includes professionally designed templates, audio loops and other content that will help you in the creative process."

So, we wait I guess. But, at least we can view the new HD codec...and let me tell you from what I've just seen on Apple's site it's AWESOME! The quality of the video is AMAZING and I've got the videos full screen and playing in about 3-5 seconds!!!!!! Yes, I have broadband..

Boyd Ostroff
April 29th, 2005, 11:28 AM
For that matter, if you're dying to use QT 7 pro then it only costs $30 for the upgrade, which isn't that big a deal...

Heath McKnight
April 29th, 2005, 11:33 AM
I only upgraded my iBook, so it doesn't matter--I don't have Pro on there. I'm going to call Apple Tech and see what's up, because I won't upgrade my Power Mac until then.

heath

Christopher C. Murphy
April 29th, 2005, 11:40 AM
Boyd, $30 is a lot of money in my world. It's included in the new FCS (Final Cut Studio), so that's good.

I'm a penny pincher for sure - if I wasn't then I wouldn't have the gear or house I own. I know it's "only" $30, but that $30 is a lot when you work for yourself...it has to come out of some other aspect of my budget.

Let's not forget the major increases in cost this year across the board. The entire US is having a major energy increase. I just got my electric bill and it's $50 higher than last years same month bill and I'm using less electricty right now! Also, gas is way more expensive...it goes on and on. I'm not complaining so much as just pointing out that $30 is a lot when you look a the larger picture of having to pay $700 for the FCS upgrade. It's included, so my major gripe when I posted my original comment is retracted.

So, I'm just saying that $30 for Quicktime Pro is a lot when you start looking at the over operating expenses for a small video boutique. I'm not a large corporation...just me doing freelance work alone.

That's just me though - I'm sure other people on here have operating expenses worked out so $30 is nothing. I just don't have the luxury because of my particular situation. (own a home that has my studio next door)

Heath McKnight
April 29th, 2005, 11:50 AM
Murph,

If you can wait, wait, that's good advice.

heath

Boyd Ostroff
April 29th, 2005, 11:53 AM
If you don't want to spend $30, then don't. In the grand scheme of things $30 just isn't a lot these days, especially if it's a tool that you need and you place any value on your time then it should be easy to justify. But everyone has to make these value judgements for themselves. Personally I'll save $30 because I don't see any immediate need for QT 7. I'll also save a lot more by not upgrading to FCP 5 or Tiger for awhile since I don't really need them either...

Heath McKnight
April 29th, 2005, 11:57 AM
This is true, it's what you need. I am going to the Apple store to try and score a free t-shirt, but I need to re-new my businesses, so I'm using my money for that.

heath

Christopher C. Murphy
April 29th, 2005, 12:05 PM
Boyd, I absolutely do need QT Pro 7. But, having already budgeted for the $700 to get FCS I wasn't expecting another $30 for something that was already included in the FCP HD suite. (QT Pro 6 was included with it)

I'm not complaining Boyd - it's more of a budget breakdown for what it's costing to upgrade into Apple's latest suite. The $700 for FCS allows for HDV editing natively using QT Pro 7 - that's what I need and want. Not to mention the exporting aspect of QT Pro 7 - that's the key for just about everyone on this thread and anyone using any HD format. This new QT Pro 7 is the ultimate codec and software for getting everything done. HD-DVD's, highest quality web videos etc. etc. It's worth $30 alone...I know that.

I really don't have a point to make, so I think I'll shut up now. I'm always getting myself into this crap because I type what I'm thinking. This hasn't really been off-topic, but a pricing discussion regarding QT Pro 7 doesn't have any value to anyone.

It is what it is....I do believe Apple's worth the money because they produce the best video software I've ever used. (IMHO)

Mark Sloan
April 30th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Last I checked, the "Pro" thing only affects what QT Player can do. The codecs are still installed and other applications can start using H.264 all they want. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong... And oh yeah, keep a copy of QT Player 6 and you should be able to keep all of your version 6 capabilities...

Brandon Miletta
April 30th, 2005, 03:12 PM
i dont understand whats so neat about pro.. i mean...what do you get?

Heath McKnight
April 30th, 2005, 03:27 PM
All sorts of great things, illustrated here:

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/pro/

heath

Sean M Lee
April 30th, 2005, 03:45 PM
pro is definitely worth the little $ it costs. It's a great conversion utility if nothing else.

Eric James
April 30th, 2005, 05:04 PM
You don't NEED pro for any of the pro apps at all. I don't see the issue unless your wanting to "present movie" or use it as an encoder. I just use FCP to encode and it works fine. I can do without "fullscreen" for a couple more weeks. Not an issue if you ask me.

My 2 c,
Eric James

Boyd Ostroff
April 30th, 2005, 06:07 PM
Obviously if you plan to buy FCP 5 and can wait another month then it makes little sense to buy QT Pro now.

Boyd Ostroff
April 30th, 2005, 06:22 PM
On Apple's FCP support board several people are saying that installing Quicktime 7 under OSX 10.3.9 causes firewire output to break in FCP HD 4.5. Might not be a good idea to jump into QT 7 unless you have the time to troubleshoot things like this...

Lou Squitieri
April 30th, 2005, 09:04 PM
What the heck! My "Quicktime Pro" has been blown away! Anyone else have their "Pro" staus killed by upgrading??

I am installing TIGER right now and thought I'd come over to the forum and kill some time while it downloads. It occured to me that I always make a copy of my existing OS befor I upgrade. I use carbon copy cloner; it's free! I got it at version tracker. So, it would be possible to use panther for fcp, and tiger for other things. You could probably reinstall your original OS and update it to 10.3.6 (seemed to work best); reinstall your pro apps; clone it to another hard drive; then upgrade to tiger; you would have the best of both worlds.