GS400 is released for nearly 1 year. Is it possible to have next 3CCD DV to replace GS400 in this year? GS500?

Any new functions/improvement you wish to be included in the new model?

A widescreen LCD would be nice.

Discontinuation, most likely.

And then a new model.

Speaking of the GS400 and discontinuation..

Where are all the GS400s? I haven't seen one in stock for quite some time at B&H and elsewhere.

Improved low light performance with a killer lens like the Xi would be nice. :D

BTW Tony, have you seen Infernal Affairs? I just noticed you were from HK and you have the same name as the main character from that movie.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/miramax_films/infernal_affairs/tony_leung_chiu_wai/infernal.jpg

Sorry to be off topic. :P

Improved low light performance with a killer lens like the Xi would be nice.

I'm confused.. I wasn't that impressed with the Xi. I kept mine for about a month after I had sever contrast issues. Not sure if it was lens or CCD related.

What I was trying to say was for the GS400 upgrade to have improved low light performance, along with a lens like the Xi. From what I've read here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=34418&page=1&pp=15 The Xi's lens only stops down half a f-stop from full wide to full tele!

I've only used the Xi a few times myself, but there hasn't been any contrast issues with my footage.

Sorry about the confusion.

I definitely agree about the need for improved low light!

Improved low light is now pushing it's limit. There's only so much a 1/4.7 inch CCD can deliver so I wouldn't get too hopeful, because upping the CCD to a bigger size also ups the price bracket.

Improved low light is now pushing it's limit. There's only so much a 1/4.7 inch CCD can deliver so I wouldn't get too hopeful, because upping the CCD to a bigger size also ups the price bracket.


Well, they could give up on digital stills and decrese pixel count on the CCD's. 700,000 per CCD would give them a big jump in lowlight reponsiveness.

Well, they could give up on digital stills and decrese pixel count on the CCD's. 700,000 per CCD would give them a big jump in lowlight reponsiveness.
Amen. By doing away with the digital stills they could also do away with the memory card hardware and the USB port and cable. Maybe the cost reduction for these things would offset the cost of bigger CCDs.

They could also do away with the digital effects and everything related to processing stills but that's in the software and probably wouldn't save much (other than cleaning up the menus).

Another thing I'd like to see is more controls on the cam instead of running through menus to do various functions an adjustments.

Good luck.

Dennis

Millions of dollars worth of marketing research can't be wrong...

I mean who doesn't want 8Megapixel stills from their camcorder that can't even compete with a sub $100 digital camera...

:)

Basically, how small can you make a Sony VX2100 while incorporating 16:9 non-megapixel CCDs!

I have to say my vote is for eliminating the photo capabilities and getting a bigger CCD with lower pixel count. The video images are above average, but the stills are just horrible, at even moderate resolutions. Don't they know that a big part of the market for this camera is beginning indie filmmakers and people getting started in doing event videography? With all those manual controls, this is for people who are trying to get serious with video work. Can the photo shot modes!

Josh

Oddly, I tried calling Panny yesterday to inquire about availability; after 35 mins (!!!) on hold I gave up.....though I've read rumors of a gs-500 I'll believe it when I see it.

I have to say my vote is for eliminating the photo capabilities and getting a bigger CCD with lower pixel count. The video images are above average, but the stills are just horrible, at even moderate resolutions. Don't they know that a big part of the market for this camera is beginning indie filmmakers and people getting started in doing event videography? With all those manual controls, this is for people who are trying to get serious with video work. Can the photo shot modes!

Josh

I personally don't know about the stills since I haven't even bothered to get a memory stick for my GS400. I've got a good but older digital camera, a Canon G3, and a great one, a Canon 20D. Unless someone gives me a free memory stick, I'm not going to bother.

I would vote for XLR audio support and better audio controls. The next step is HD support.

I personally don't know about the stills since I haven't even bothered to get a memory stick for my GS400. I've got a good but older digital camera, a Canon G3, and a great one, a Canon 20D. Unless someone gives me a free memory stick, I'm not going to bother.

I would vote for XLR audio support and better audio controls. The next step is HD support.

You can see many examples of digital stills from the GS400 here...

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=33194

they don't look bad to me. but they are unnecessary, IMO.

Well, you can just buy the DVC30 for better low-light performance.

My vote goes for better "low light."

they could also do away with the memory card hardware and the USB port and cable.

I think an SD card slot can be a good thing to have... especially if you can key in a lower-third, a logo or a bug as a transparent image from the card right over the live video as you're recording. Sort of an instant watermark function built right into the camcorder.

I think an SD card slot can be a good thing to have... especially if you can key in a lower-third, a logo or a bug as a transparent image from the card right over the live video as you're recording. Sort of an instant watermark function built right into the camcorder.

But that just seems like another unnecessary feature. And how many people would actually overlay an image on their video as they shoot (especially users on this board)? I sure wouldn't for fear that it's there permanently, and I may want the footage later on for something else that requires a watermark not to be there.

I don't think they must do away with stills, but using high pixel CCDs, devoting resources to furthering pixel-shifting, etc...does more harm than good. And I wouldn't care if Panny could get 6MP stills out of one their vid cams because my still cam could do the same and still fit in my pocket.

In the same vein, still camera manufacturers need to lay off the movie modes and concectrate on less noise at higher ISOs, speeding up shutter lag, time between shots, power consumption, etc...

My still camera needs a mic just as much as my video camera needs MP CCDs... ;)

I know we'd get better models (still and video) if all these companies stopped trying to cram in so much junk and just concentrated on worthwhile features...I mean, does anybody still factor digital zoom limits when deciding on a new cam anymore?


OK, I'm sure some do, but probably not the ones buying the higher end models like the GS400.

>Amen. By doing away with the digital stills they could also do away with the >memory card hardware and the USB port and cable. Maybe the cost >reduction for these things would offset the cost of bigger CCDs.

I guess it's a dream to envision higher data rate MPEG4/MPEG2 written to the memory card or USB hard drive.

I guess such features are appealing to those that want a small package for video and stills. Though, would anyone want the picture features if they knew that it reduced video low light performance ?

>In the same vein, still camera manufacturers need to lay off the movie >modes and concectrate on less noise at higher ISOs, speeding up shutter >lag, time between shots, power consumption, etc...
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>My still camera needs a mic just as much as my video camera needs MP >CCDs... ;)

Someone has to make a video-capable device at this size. When I compare my Canon S40 (4MPixel camera) to the crisp, clean footage from my VX2000,
I can't help but wonder about the disappearance of spontaneity. Casual subjects are used to cameras, but huge camcorders with lens hoods and external microphones bug them out. I just ordered a Panasonic GS250 that will help with my content, but I know it's not as portable as a little digital camera.

I want three manual rings instead of one ring from gs400.

I want usb2 port for uncompressed and unmanipulate data stream directly from ccd.

I don't think any of my request is dear or hard.

Regards
Leigh