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Peter Moore
April 17th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Get this? Or wait for 1080/24p?

Oh the dilemma!

Riley Harmon
April 17th, 2005, 01:02 PM
from what ive read this camera will do 1080/24p...so you wont have to wait...

Laurence Maher
April 18th, 2005, 04:10 AM
Yes, it does 1080 24p, supposedly the full 1920 X 1080 instead of 1440 X 1080. Sweet, huh? Accomplishes it with 2:3:3:2 pulldown like the dvx-100.

Man, this camera is . . . sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Dylan Pank
April 18th, 2005, 04:34 AM
Yes, it does 1080 24p, supposedly the full 1920 X 1080 instead of 1440 X 1080.
Incredibly unlikely as the DVCproHD format does not support this resolution and at the 100Mbs datarate would be more or less impossible.

DVCproHD resolution is either 960*720p or 1280*1080p or 1280*1080i

Rumour is that the CCDs will be 1280*720 and will upscale to 1280*1080 and downscale to 960*720.

This fits with what I was told at the London Videoforum. I asked about the native resolution of the 1080i AJ-HDX400 camera (http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=87887&catGroupId=15768&surfModel=AJ-HDX400&surfCategory=HD%20Camcorders&displayTab=F) and was told it was 1280*720, which I assume is 50p/60p at the CCD then converted to 1080i 50i/60i when recorded to tape.

[edit: OK so the following is wrong, see later posts]

Since the HVX100 does NOT record to tape, I assume that it saves discrete frames in 24p mode. Without tape, there is no need for the sort of methods the DVX or the Variam use to create 24p.

Aaron Koolen
April 18th, 2005, 04:56 AM
Damn, I can't find the reference, but I read somewhere that the 1080/24p will be recording as 60i, using 2:3:3:2 (I think) pulldown, just like the DVX.

In 720/24p, I think it records only the frames required, so yes you'll be using something like 40Mbps bandwidth.

Aaron

EDIT: Found reference here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showthread.php?t=24050&page=26&pp=10)

Dylan Pank
April 18th, 2005, 05:30 AM
Thanks Aaron, and the direct link to the specific post is here (http://www.dvxuser.com/V3/showpost.php?p=190287&postcount=260)

Whoops, well, interesting, since it comes from Jan Crittenden that's pretty definitive.

Peter Moore
April 18th, 2005, 07:18 AM
Sweet! I Thought I read it was only 720p. Awesome!!!

Wrap it up and put a bow on it. I don't even need to see it.