hi there
i shot for 1 week on the sony FX1 HDV, with the p+s mini35 image converter.
the shooting went very well, i`m very satissied with the result, but convince your self
and have a look on the follwing link:

http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov

lenses which I use has:
10mm T2.1 Super Zeiss
18mm T1.3 Zeiss
25mm T1.3 Zeiss
32mm T1.3 Zeiss
50mm T1.3 Zeiss
60mm T3.0 Zeiss Marco
85mm T1.3 Zeiss
135mm T2.1 Zeiss
180mm T3.0 Zeiss
300mm Canon T2.8

the promo is for a famos german artist and we shot the promo in capetown, south afrika.
in case of any question don`t hesitate you contact me.

best regards
christopher häring

man, this is unreal...

great stuff!

Wunderbar!

Holy Crap.

Man, that's good looking footage. That's with the FX1? Geez, I can't wait to get my Z1!

This question has nothing to do with the FX/Z1, but...what is the name of the artist and the name of the song used in that video?

Hi Christopher,

Thats great work !
I hope you didn't get any sand in the gear from that meteorite strike ;0)

Can you share more details regarding your 'base' setup with the Mini P&S ?

Any Additional matte box/filters used ?

FX1-specific problems encountered/solved etc... ?

Were you using CF modes for this ?

Did you capture externally 'live' through component or just straight down on HDV tape ?

This was shot in HDV mode rather than DV, right ?

Are you able to post some full-res grabs from the original footage ?

Please keep us posted with any more footage like this !

Thanks,
Dave

My spelling isn't great , but.

SER GOOT!
I had the post people rocking out to this video ( wass viewing from the audio suite). Love the video and the music. Who is the band, any translation for us
german-ignorant Americans? Website for the artist?

The video looked like film, and the producer watching over my shoulder (film producer at that) was amazed.

APPLAUSE.....

Jeff Patnaude

ok guys,
the band name ist Fettes Brot ( Fat Bread ) "Emanuela"
www.fettesbrot.de

peace and beatz
christopher

GREAT VIDEO!!!!!

It's about time we got some footage other then flowers, birds on a fence and cars passing by. *smile*

I am assume your camera was the FX1E version.

Did you use CF25 mode or 50i mode in HDV?

Any filters?

- Shannon W. Rawls

Is there a better resolution version of the video?


Carlos

more info please!!
camera settings.. lighting setups.. etc.
amazing..

how about some high res stills?

Yeah, I'd like to see the higher res version!

Well, shite that's good looking! I was considering waiting the Sony FX1/Z1 out for Panasonic's next camera (DVX100B or whatever, SD or not), but now I'm tempted to run down to the Sony store at the Forum Shops in Ceasar's Palace and buy the FX1 right now, or at least preorder a Z1! =)

Beautiful!

Was this shot 1080i or DV? (or any Cineframe mode)

-Steve

Looks tremendous.

Remember guys that this was shot by an experienced DP, and then worked over by a colorist on what appears to be tools more sophisticated than say, the 3-Way color corrector in FCP.

But it's definitely evidence of what's possible...I wish people on the net would see this camera for what it CAN do, rather than picking it apart with the numbers.

I'll have stills/footage of the music vid I shot this week soon.

Hi, your work with the sony and the P+S is stellar. I'm assuming you used a PAL version of the camera, since the final output is 25fps.

My main question is what did you do about the interlaced format? Did you deinterlace to go progressive on it? If so, what did you use for that process? Or did you stay with interlaced the whole way, or use the Cineframe mode?

Again, awesome work.

steev

http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov

making link clickable to save target as...

:) I like.

Hi Christopher,

What did you do to get the vignette look in most of the shots? Was that in-camera or done in post?

Thanks, great looking footage by the way.

J

Beautiful work! Catchy, toe-tappin' tune to boot. Nice rhythmic editing that goes well with the music. Esp. like the shots of the grinning bus driver. Definitely ups the humor of the piece.

Seriously, beautiful footage with a cam that's supposed to be for "prosumers". :-) Truly shows that it's the talent behind the camera with the right tools in hand and not just the camera itself.

Thanks for sharing!

<<<-- Originally posted by Anhar Miah : http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov

making link clickable to save target as... -->>>


Can I get a better quality version? Where?

From what I see I can mostly judge framing and editing, but the HDV quality seems lost in the very low resolution version.

I have tried with Media Player and Quicktime and it looks the same, and it's set for high resolution.


Carlos

Higher rez would be great, but I want to know where I can get the CD?

Danka!

Jeff Patnaude

As for myself, I'd like to see some production stills showing the FX1 / Mini35 setup on location.

I am now questioning if this is even the FX1.

On 3 different boards people are asking all kindsa questions...mainly the same ones.

Not one question has been answered.

Just posted the video, and left....

I'm not as excited as I was anynmore. As of now, for all I know, this was shot on 35mm or HDCAM.

- Shannon W. Rawls

<<<-- Originally posted by Shannon Rawls : I am now questioning if this is even the FX1.

- Shannon W. Rawls -->>>

I was wondering that myself, im trying to refrain from speculation.

What other boards was this posted on?

Yes, i was absolutely amazed at the beggining with this piece of art, but as nobody answered, im getting to the point of doubting its veracity.

If this footage is real, after post and everything, it means prosumers can get to the point of enjoy explaining what people is waching is in fact digital, and smile with their open mouths.

But i think this is another thing (I really hope Christopher corrects me). How many of us were waching it over and over tip-tapping as the song played? and how many of us asked who were the players? New old kind of publicity method maybe, kind of mouth to mouth...

But as im interested in getting the Z1 i will still be hoping its real thing, at least in my heart.

Anyway, it is a very well done video with nice music.

I think that one point is beeing overseen,
As someone else pointed out here before, this peice
was filmed by a experienced DP. Most probably he could
have gotten almost the same results from a XL2 or DVX100.
The "resolution" factor is not the issue here. Colorcontrol,
correct exposure and the right frameing are a much bigger
issue. Most likely the peice was colorcorrected by a pro
too. Also remember that he has equipment for over twice
the price of the camera infront of his lens makeing this possible.

I don't have any doubts about getting results like this with
the FX1.

/Andreas

If you go to the main page of the website it says he is in buenos aires from 1.28 to 2.17

its legit.. he's using a mini35 image converter and probably using some lenses that cost 3 times as much as the camera.

Ok, lets say its legit. I´m sorry i didn´t read about his trip. My apologizes. But it´s so well done!

Will it be 50i-60i? no doubt if they used so big bunch of equip they wouldn´t try the cineframe thing. Wich should be better to de-interlace, looking for quality results?

No idea of wich editor and plug-ins used. My imagination is absolutely dry at the moment. Its the "not believe till you see it" problem. Sure it´s over the top machinery and a good pro team working around to make the FX1look so impressive.

How can we get so far so quickly with technology? It looks like in a couple of years everything will be about the talent and knowledge of the people you are working with, and not about the latest techy thing (that´s my hope). In fact, it looks like this now, but not as evident as the moment we will have true 24p HD(v) in hands. Then teams will forget about perfect film look and worry about other productions needs.

I wish the best for the cameras to come.

I'm pretty sure it's legitimate -- no real reason to doubt it -- besides, P+S Technik would know for sure, since they would keep a close eye on where their first units go, and to whom, for marketing purposes. That's why I was asking about some productions stills, there's bound to be some that were taken.

Not to throw my gasoline on the conspiracy fire, but his alias is Christopher Haering but he signed it 'christopher häring' I don't know about you but I don't mispell my name.

Hayden nice conspiracy!

This might be because of the name register. My name and surname has some (´) attached on it, but when i tried to put complete spell, the machine didn´t let me register because it considered these symbols like alias things.

He probably looked for the most similar vowels sounds to his surname.

I´ve seen the Nate Weaver video and it looks great too, so the point must be that being filmed (recorded for the pourists) on a higer def and then downconverted in resolution (i hope im not fitting my feet in mouth very much with what i´m saying (still learning)), you get faboulous quality anyway to do what you want (i.e. blow up to film or do slo-mo tricks).

One step beyond...

<< his alias is Christopher Haering but he signed it 'christopher häring' >>

That's easily forgiveable, in my opinion. We're known as an American board, despite the fact that I've intended for it to be international in appeal (but limited to the English language for practical reasons). Most Germans I have ever known, have correctly assumed that a casual American wouldn't know what an umlaut is. So they'll spell their name with an "ae" or an "oe" sometimes, and use an umlaut other times.

But this is completely off-topic now, so please disregard.

;-)

It's not miss spelled. In german you can write ae instead of ä.

link no longer works, help!

Hey the link doesn't work anymore.

Hi!

Only to clear things up a little - I guess the original post is absolutely real as I guess no one besides Christopher Haering himself could new the link to the video. ;-)
Furthermore "Fettes Brot" is a very well known band here in germany and the whole thing is absolutely not no-budget - as posted before by others thats one part of why it looks so good. It was professionally CCed/cut etc.pp. ... and personally I would say that they could have achieved the same with a DVX100A or XL2! I'm really wondering why they chose a HDV cam in the first place as HD is still not really getting off the ground here in germany and there are almost no distribution channels at all where you could watch something like this promo in more than SD quality! (of course you can argue about the better picture because of 1080i -> SD downconversion in post... however there were many examples/experiences posted on the web already showing that the benefit isn't that big)

Btw the vid was produced by a production company called Big Fish... http://www.bigfish.de/
If you have a look you'll see that they work with directors like Philipp Stölzl for example who directed one (or more) videos for Evanescence and others. So this is not really no budget indie style film/video making we're talking about here. :-)

Regarding links to the video.. here you go:

http://www.fettesbrot.de/downloads/Emanuela.mov
(quicktime, 18 mb)

http://www.fettesbrot.de/downloads/Emanuela%20kompakt.mov
(quicktime, 2,8 mb)

http://www.fettesbrot.de/downloads/Emanuela.rm
(real-media, 4,7 mb)

http://www.fettesbrot.de/downloads/emanuela.wmv
(windows media, 5,5 mb)

Cheers,
-Sören

Several people on our staff are clamoring for the CD. I dont see where they are selling anywhere but in Europe. Too bad.

Are they offering downloads on Itunes yet?


Jeff P.

I just checked and the EP is available on iTunes... download away!

Kevin,
I searched Itunes and didn't get anything. Link?

Jeff P

Search for Fettes Brot in the iTunes store.

i saw the video few days ago on german satelite channel.
in full pal resolution.

despite really really nice work - i saw also two strange, very small circless (rings) at the very top of the screen. (approx 1/30th of the screen size - but visible)

did anyone saw this?

those circles/rings were rotating - in my opinion - the same way as p+s. so it's some kind of artefact visible in this movie. i can't tell how many times those circles are visible (i saw the clip just once on PAL Tv). but i noticed it just when the bright sky is in the shot.

Christopher, can you explain us little bit more?

thanks,

filip

Hi Filip!
That's funny.. I came here to post exactly the same! :-)
I have already seen the video a number of times on TV already but most of the time on smaller TVs and I never looked as carefully as this time - and I noticed the same! It's strange... dunno if it was only in this broadcast or if it's always there. I'll have a look at MTV & Co. the next days and look at it again carefully if I catch it again.
Perhaps it's really some "artefact" of the P+S?! Looked like the center of some rotating ground glass... some wicked mixup in their setup?! Or maybe the Mini35 is yet incompatible with the FX1? I'm really curious too...

<<<-- Originally posted by Soeren Mueller : Hi Filip!
That's funny.. I came here to post exactly the same! :-)

he, he... nice to hear that. so i'am not alone :)

Perhaps it's really some "artefact" of the P+S?! Looked like the center of some rotating ground glass...
exactly!

i think that (as i remember) since it shows just on very bright parts - maybe is just a reflection from the GG surface?

you know - sometimes you can see the "amplified" reflection when i.e. you shooting in the dark and the car is passing buy. many times you will see double or triple reflection of these car lights because it reflects from the lens surface and than again from the filter, and than again from the lenses... etc.

maybe is similar in that case.

anyone who is using P+S technik noticed that?

filip

Hm just nearly missed the clip again... so I didn't get captures from scenes where it was even more noticable but I got this one:

http://misc.soeren.de/emanuela1.jpg

The rotating "artefact" (dark circle) is in the upper middle of the picture (ignore the letterboxing ;o) ... it's most noticable when the image is relatively bright in that area and it's always in the same location what makes it even more noticeable.

This is only the part of interest (from the same frame, contrast enhanced)
http://misc.soeren.de/emanuela2.jpg

.. and this from a few frames earlier or later:

http://misc.soeren.de/emanuela3.jpg

Looks like the center of a rotating ground glas or something?! Weird!

Cheers

As the clip seems to be on heavy rotation here I just got it complete from MTV.. however the image quality (too much compression somewhere on the line) of MTV here via cable is so bad that you can't spot it as easily as previously on the other channel.
And I have to correct my previous post: sometimes it's not exactly in the same place but a little bit off center - could be due to image resizing/cropping in post or because the adapter/optics where moved sometimes?!

There's a new "edit" of the video available on his site with some set fotos in the background where on some occasions you can spot the cam setup! So I guess it's "officially" confirmed now. ;-P

http://www.hmanvisions.com/projects_fettesbrot.html

PS: No control/field monitor could be spotted!

hi guys, the rotating rings was dirth in the ground glass.
I could not see these rotating rings.

by the way ..
i shoot a new video on the sony FX1 with P+S Image Connverter.

http://www.ch71.de/clips/suchasurge_tag.mov

tom selleck is back !!!

New video looks great Chris. Are you shooting interlaced then converting to progressive with software, or are you using the camera's frame mode?

Wow, thats realy good. some questions:

1) was light loss (due to PS) a problem
2) Shot interaced or progessive (cine modes?)
3) What kind of colour correction was used/ filters
4) What was done in post and was done during the shot.


Thanks

Anhar