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Bryan McCullough
February 15th, 2005, 09:38 AM
Eric,

Where do you find the DC30 codec?

I don't yet have iLife '05 so if it's an iMove HD thing, then I understand why I can't find it.

In FCP I can see a DC50 option, but no DC30.

Eric Bilodeau
February 15th, 2005, 11:11 AM
http://www.alfanet.it/squared5

Download the DC30 drivers (even if you don't have a DC30+ card :) and you will have their codecs.

They also do the MPEG streamclip application witch can convert m2t to Quicktime and quicktime to m2t.

Bryan McCullough
February 15th, 2005, 11:55 AM
Thanks!

I've been using Streamclip to do my coversions from MT2.

Bryan McCullough
February 15th, 2005, 12:19 PM
Eric,

Got the codec, do you edit in FCP with this?

I looked at the new DC30 presets in FCP and they were all SD. Do you make a custom 1080 one or what?

Thanks!

Eric Bilodeau
February 15th, 2005, 03:42 PM
custom 1080i, 1440X1080 squared pixel anamorphic 16:9 upper field first, 29.97. Using DC30 lossless 4:2:2.

Christopher C. Murphy
February 15th, 2005, 05:04 PM
Hey guys, I've finally gotten around to getting some footage from my Z1 into my computer. I shot some footage in LA and also a marthon my girlfriend was in this past week.

First, I noticed that my dual G5 2.0 captures in "Real Time" - except when motion starts. Then it turns to something like this "Real Time 2/3" - it adjusts itself depending on the action in the footage. I haven't seen this posted yet, so I wanted to start contributing information! (I only have 1 gig of RAM, so if I had more it might stay real-time....also, I am using an external firewire 400 drive to capture)

Christopher C. Murphy
February 15th, 2005, 05:22 PM
Oh my God, this can't be happening....the breakup you guys have been talking about really sucks ass. I'm watching my export from iMovie and it's like stabbing me in the heart with scissors!!!!!!!!

Eric Bilodeau
February 17th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Chris,

I know EXACTLY what you mean...

BTW, capture is also RT for me on my dual 2G

I prefer getting the m2t files from DVHSCap and converting them to DC30 lossless 4:2:2.

Chris, could you do a test? MPEG streamclip seems to be able to create m2t files from quitime movies. I think it could be possible to export back to the camera using that method, thus avoiding completely the AIC nightmare. Could you check that? I don't have a camera to test it right now...

Christopher C. Murphy
February 18th, 2005, 06:58 AM
I'm going to try your method...DVHScap to DC30 lossless.

I'll try do that test for you asap, but I'm on a tight schedule to capture footage. How would I play it back to camera?? iMovie imports mt2?

Eric Bilodeau
February 18th, 2005, 11:45 AM
No, use DVHSCap to export back to the camera

Heath McKnight
February 18th, 2005, 04:36 PM
I'll give it a shot, too.

heath

Eric Bilodeau
February 18th, 2005, 07:17 PM
Can't wait to see if it works!

Frederic Lumiere
February 23rd, 2005, 11:08 PM
Lumiere HD now allows MPEG2 TS encoding for the Sony HDV devices.

http://www.lumierehd.com/beta_download.php

We are continuing our efforts to develop Lumiere HD because we are dissapointed by the quality AIC delivers.

Some might prefer not to go the AIC route and go from the TS directly to the codec of their choice. It's a longer process than iMovie but won't compromise image quality as much.

I really wish Apple would come up with a solid solution so we could all move on with our lives... In the meantime, we'll do our best to improve our app.

Frederic

Heath McKnight
February 23rd, 2005, 11:18 PM
Thanks, Frederic. I'm disappointed, but I don't want to go back to Lumiere HD--I've spent WAYYYY too much time with the film.

heath

Frederic Lumiere
February 23rd, 2005, 11:21 PM
Heath,

Well at least you can use the latest Lumiere HD beta to encode your final cut to TS that the Sony camera will read.

This will save you another AIC encode...

Frederic

Heath McKnight
February 23rd, 2005, 11:29 PM
Can you post up how to do that properly here so others (and me) can use it?

THANKS!

heath

Frederic Lumiere
February 23rd, 2005, 11:35 PM
Sure,

From your FCP timeline, export to one of the following:

- HD 10bit uncompressed
- Photo JPEG 100%
- DC30 4:2:2
- Anything else you are willing to use considering your HD space vs. quality

Use 1440 X 1080, 60i (29.97fps Upper Odd)

Feed this mov into Lumiere HD and use the Sony HDV 1080i preset in the 'Transport Stream' tab

Print the resulting .m2t to Sony HDV camera using Lumiere HD Print to Tape feature (1st tab).

Frederic

Eric Bilodeau
February 24th, 2005, 07:58 AM
Good news Frederic,

Once again you seem to be the first to provide a good alternative for mac users :)

Sergio Perez
March 1st, 2005, 07:33 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Frederic Haubrich : Sure,

From your FCP timeline, export to one of the following:

- HD 10bit uncompressed
- Photo JPEG 100%
- DC30 4:2:2
- Anything else you are willing to use considering your HD space vs. quality

Use 1440 X 1080, 60i (29.97fps Upper Odd)

Feed this mov into Lumiere HD and use the Sony HDV 1080i preset in the 'Transport Stream' tab

Print the resulting .m2t to Sony HDV camera using Lumiere HD Print to Tape feature (1st tab).

Frederic -->>>

Frederic, is a Powerbook g4 1.67ghz 2gig ram capable for your application and fcp to edit and export HDV?
I need this minfo since that's my current editing solution...

Sérgio

Kevin Shaw
March 2nd, 2005, 03:06 AM
<<<Don't get a PC! <g> I don't have issues like that on my single processor G5 1.6 ghz Power Mac, but it can be a bit of a pain in the neck. I'm starting to notice the artifacting, which really stinks.>>>

Yeah, heaven forbid you should buy an inexpensive computer which offers several options for solving the problems you're currently dealing with on Macs! I truly hope Apple has something better to show at NAB for dealing with HDV.

:-)

Frederic Lumiere
March 7th, 2005, 07:13 PM
<<<-- Originally posted by Sergio Perez : Frederic, is a Powerbook g4 1.67ghz 2gig ram capable for your application and fcp to edit and export HDV?
I need this minfo since that's my current editing solution...

Sérgio -->>>

Sérgio,

Yes, your system will allow you to use Lumiere HD.

It'll be slower at the conversion than a G5 but it's doable.

Frederic