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Shawn Kessler
September 8th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Hello guys.
Got a problem if you plug in to component with this monitor. My camera is the JVC GYHD-100 with the component out to it shouldn't you get a color picture. I either get black n white or just green with the different button combinations. my camera is set to component out i've also tried every combination imaginable with no success. What the heck i'm I doing wrong? i've tried different cables with no avail. I've also tried it on a26" lcd worked perfect so I don't think its my camera. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Shawn

Boyd Ostroff
September 8th, 2009, 12:41 PM
Maybe a problem with sending HD component video to a SD monitor? Is there a setting on your camera for component format?

Shawn Kessler
September 8th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Yes there is a setting for that still no luck. Boyd let me ask you this if I wanted to calibrate color
in SD mode would that not work?

Boyd Ostroff
September 8th, 2009, 12:51 PM
Sorry, that gets a little beyond my area of knowledge, but my understanding is that colorspace is different between SD and HD. Maybe someone else can give a better answer...

Boyd Ostroff
September 8th, 2009, 12:52 PM
Also - have you tested the monitor with another source of component video? Most DVD players have component output. That would be one way to determine if the problem is in the monitor/cable.

Shawn Kessler
September 8th, 2009, 01:02 PM
Thanks Boyd!
that seems to be working I think im going to try one of those s-video to component cables at least I can get a little more detail.

Shawn

Shaun Roemich
September 8th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Do you have the camera set to downconvert to SD? The monitor in question won't accept HD signals.

Shawn Kessler
September 8th, 2009, 03:50 PM
HOw is that done on the GYHD -100 if it can?

Shaun Roemich
September 8th, 2009, 04:20 PM
I've got a 200 so I'm not sure if it's the same. Check the manual.

Greg Laves
September 8th, 2009, 05:36 PM
I might be missing the boat here. But are you using component out (YUV) or (RGB) or composite out? If you are using a single RCA out connection, I think that would be just composite out and it is probably SD only. I have had several (5) of the Sony PVM 80xx field monitors and one did exactly like yours. It would produce a green picture or a B/W picture only. No color. It was a bad monitor. Actually, all of the Sony PVM 80xx series monitors that I had are all dead.

Shawn Kessler
September 8th, 2009, 05:41 PM
Greg,
Ive got component out (YUV)on my camera to the component in on the sony.
apparently this monitor only accepts SD. Im going to use a s-video to component
to get some kind of decent picture from it.

Greg Laves
September 8th, 2009, 05:49 PM
Greg,
Ive got component out (YUV)on my camera to the component in on the sony.
apparently this monitor only accepts SD. Im going to use a s-video to component
to get some kind of decent picture from it.

I don't have a JVC, so I don't know how they are set up. But I think that the component output from my camcorder (RGB) is a different type of output than the Betacam YUV component out. The S-Video out to S-Video in should work.

Boyd Ostroff
September 9th, 2009, 12:11 PM
Do you have the camera set to downconvert to SD? The monitor in question won't accept HD signals.

HOw is that done on the GYHD -100 if it can?

I'm getting lost here, I thought we covered this earlier....

Maybe a problem with sending HD component video to a SD monitor? Is there a setting on your camera for component format?

Yes there is a setting for that still no luck.

Shaun Roemich
September 9th, 2009, 04:57 PM
I'm getting lost here, I thought we covered this earlier....

I was trying to confirm that the OP had set the analog component outputs to SD as analog component can be either HD or SD, which not every one always understands.

FTR: (and not for Boyd)
Analog Connections
- composite (one connector) is SD only
- S-Video (4 pin DIN connector) is SD only - ALSO available in 2 connector and generally called Y/C, not S-Video (early Hi-8 cameras sometimes had this)
- Component (3 connector) can be HD or SD

Digital Video Connections
-SDI/HD-SDI (one connector - BNC) can be Sd (SDI) or HD (HD-SDI)
-HDMI
-DVI (although usually computer based RGB video)

Boyd Ostroff
September 9th, 2009, 07:11 PM
I was trying to confirm that the OP had set the analog component outputs to SD as analog component can be either HD or SD, which not every one always understands.

Right. I think Shawn misunderstood that distinction when he said he checked the setting on the camera.

Shawn Kessler
September 10th, 2009, 07:36 AM
Boyd,
No misunderstanding as I said I did check the component analog out and it was set to just that. This is a standard def monitor Shaun you say that component can be SD or HD
well from my experience with this monitor all I can get is black n white or green when switched to component out on my camera. I've tested my camera on another monitor with component and it works fine. I will just use the s-video to component cable to resolve this on the sony thanks for all your help.

shawn

Boyd Ostroff
September 10th, 2009, 07:51 AM
I'm not familiar with you camera. But on the Sony Z1, for example, there's a setting for component format where you can select (IIRC) 1080i, 480i or 480p. That was what I suggested you check. Sorry if it wasn't clear. For your monitor I think the 480i setting would be appropriate.

Shaun Roemich
September 10th, 2009, 08:15 AM
Shawn: it sounds like you may have the connections wrong if you're getting some kind of image. On my 200's, my outputs are labelled: Y, PB and PR which I believe in Sony speak translates to:
Y = Y (or green cable)
PB = B-Y (or blue cable)
PR = R-Y (or red cable)

Shawn Kessler
September 10th, 2009, 10:00 AM
Shaun,
believe me I know I got the right colors hooked I tried different cables thinking
I had a bad one but I didn't. It works fine when i'm in dv mode but once I switch to HDv
component no color picture. oh well thanks for help anyway guys.

shawn

Shaun Roemich
September 10th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Well, if your component outputs work in DV and not in HDV it's the Downconvert Setting. I'll see if I can find a copy of the owners manual online.

Shaun Roemich
September 10th, 2009, 01:51 PM
I've PM'ed resident JVC expert Tim Dashwood to see if he can help shed some light on this.

John Peterson
September 16th, 2009, 06:46 AM
It's probably similar to my PMW-EX1. With component out I can only get a black and white image with my inexpensive little Sony DVD player using the green connector only. Good enough for focusing and possibly exposure level if you calibrate it properly. If I want more than that I need the SDI out and a whole bunch more money spent with dubious cost/benefit results.

In the owners manual for your camera there should be a section that explains what kind of signal is output with various menu settings. It may possibly be a little confusing, but it should be in there.

John

Boyd Ostroff
September 16th, 2009, 08:40 AM
It's probably similar to my PMW-EX1. With component out I can only get a black and white image with my inexpensive little Sony DVD player using the green connector only.

Well you are trying to use component video to drive a composite monitor. The OP says that his monitor actually supports component video. Portable DVD players don't.