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Alex Taylor July 23rd, 2003, 05:54 PM In Premiere under the Preferences > Video menu I believe, there's a button called Playback settings. Hit this and you'll get some more options. There's a checkbox that says 'Render playback to DV' or something to that effect. Make sure it's checked. Sorry if those are a bit vague, I'm just going off the top of my head :)
Dane Studstill July 23rd, 2003, 06:04 PM I have playback on dv checked also have playback on desktop and render scrub to dv camcorder/vcr checked. I am still having the original problem.
Thanks,
Dane
Rob Lohman July 25th, 2003, 08:29 AM Try playing it back with the older mediaplayer:
Start -> Run -> mplayer2.exe
My experience is that it is a lot more stable then the new
version....
Rob Lohman July 25th, 2003, 08:43 AM I think it only works with sections that DO NOT require rendering,
ie without effects or color corrections etc. With alt + scrubbing
you are telling Premiere to render it first before showing (which
drops your framerate) and since it is now rendered it can also
output it to firewire....
That would be my guess.
David Nussbaum July 26th, 2003, 11:20 AM wtf! its glitching out or something! I just got a new computer and im editing for the first time on it, and when theres anything moving its got huge flashing interlace crap everywhere. wtf?
NOTE: This print screen makes the interlacing look very thin, but in adobe each is about as thick as a magic marker mark.
http://davidnssbm.diedrupo.com/wtf.gif
Mike Rehmus July 26th, 2003, 11:51 AM Sounds like the fields are reversed. If your editing system has a selection for this, try reversing the existing setting.
David Nussbaum July 26th, 2003, 12:38 PM i dont know what i would change
David Nussbaum July 26th, 2003, 01:15 PM but when i export clip >>> movie and open it it looks fine :|
Rob Kelly July 26th, 2003, 09:58 PM How do you make a project where the film has high quality but it doesn't eat away your entire hard drive?
Robert Knecht Schmidt July 27th, 2003, 01:25 AM This is really a compression question: what you're looking for is a comparison of available codecs to determine what best meets your needs. Try doing a search on the DVInfo.net boards for compression codecs. See the link in my sig.
Rob Easler July 27th, 2003, 10:04 AM You don't. You buy another big hard drive.
Adrian Douglas July 27th, 2003, 07:32 PM Rob,
The miniDV format will require approx 13GBs of hard drive space for every hour of footage from the camera. The footage is compressed 5:1 by the camera and this is the best quality you can get from the miniDV format. Once you have the footage in the camera you can then apply one of the many compression formats to reduce the space taken up by the footage. At the moment the best compressed format is MPEG2 closely followed by MPEG4/DIVX. For more info on these and other compression schemes use our search function as Robert suggested.
Trent O Connor July 28th, 2003, 07:37 AM Hi, I had posted this on the Mac part but noone could help.
Ive edited something in Premiere on my Mac. Ive edited and want to put it back to tape but 'export to tape' isnt highlighted. the set up has worked using imovie but i cant get it to work on premiere.
anyone have any ideas?
much appreciated if u have.....
EDIT: On the Adobe website, some others have had the same problem. Someone has said that you have to change the 'export settings' but im not sure what to change?
Anyone know...?
Alex Taylor July 28th, 2003, 11:02 AM Is it rendered?
Make sure your camera is plugged in, turned on and set to VTR/VCR.
You might have to change the export settings.. go to Edit > Preferences > Scratch Disks and Device Control. Make sure Device Control is selected instead of 'none' and that your camera is selected (you don't usually have to put the exact model, Sony generic would be fine if your camera is Sony.)
That should work! I just played around with Premiere on the PC and I got it to grey out Export to Tape by disabling device control.
Trent O Connor July 28th, 2003, 12:22 PM thanx, i'll give that a go
Trent O Connor July 29th, 2003, 04:47 AM Damn, cos im on a Mac, the system is different. I cant get to 'device control' through 'edit'.
Trent O Connor July 29th, 2003, 07:30 AM Me again, thanks man. Found 'device control' and none was selected. Told it to look for a Canon and game on!
Much much much appreciated.
Andres Lucero July 30th, 2003, 09:27 PM Captured some test shots with my GL2, trying to export them from my PC back to tape via Pinnacle DV500. I get weird pixelation and blue screens in the middle of the scene. Any ideas?
Rob Lohman July 31st, 2003, 04:14 AM Did you set your device options correctly?
Andres Lucero July 31st, 2003, 10:30 AM As far as I can tell, yes. I can't print to tape at all under certain settings, so I've used a Pinnacle preset for the entire project. The only device settings it has are "Analog" or "DV" so there's not much I can change there.
Fred Haber July 31st, 2003, 02:39 PM While exporting in Premere 6.0, I get an unusual error message. Basically it says: Support tunner, fatal error, contact motive system admin. Not sure what it means, maybe someone can help. I have to hit "End task," then it goes away. Problem is, I can't leave the program unattended as it stops at that point.
This is a great forum and am happy to finally be a member. Still finding my way around here.
Thanks all,
Fred Haber
Ed Smith August 1st, 2003, 12:24 PM Has everything been rendered?
Are there any loose connections?
Are your video sources clean?
Do you get the same pixeliations if you export via DV and analogue?
All the best,
Ed
David Nussbaum August 1st, 2003, 01:26 PM Please help!
Andres Lucero August 1st, 2003, 03:04 PM My source video is fine when I view it on a TV or the LCD screen of my camcorder. I'm also able to capture the video without any problems, so the DV connections seems to be working okay.
When I select "Export to tape..." the timeline is rendered before starting up the camera and recording video. I've also tried the "Render Timeline" function prior to exporting, but there's no difference between the two.
I'm using an external drive connected via the USB port to store all my files. I thought this might be causing the problem, but I tried exporting a project stored on my local HD (with the external drive completely disconnected) and the results are the same.
The *only* other possibility I can come up with is that I don't have enough RAM (512MB) or processing power (1.6GHz) to render the video properly as it prints to tape. Unfortunately, I don't have the ability to upgrade... :-\
Mike Rehmus August 1st, 2003, 08:37 PM David, I am not a Premiere maven so I cannot tell you what to tweak. Can you post a sample frame? Full video resolution. Make sure it is a frame, not a field. Maybe 2 or 3 frames would be better.
Or send them directly to me at mike@byvideo.com
Alex Knappenberger August 1st, 2003, 08:40 PM David, what mode was that shot in? 60i or 30P or 24P?
BTW, for 60i, that looks totally normal for motion, when it's played back normally, it will look fine, but if it was shot in 24p or 30p, then you need to change the project settings so that it's non-interlaced/progessive.
Peter Moore August 2nd, 2003, 07:21 AM I'm not sure, the field order still might be refersed - that sample he posted is pretty severe.
I think in Premier there's a way to interpret footage as being either lower first, upper first, or no fields. Try playing with those settings.
Although if exporting as a movie works fine, then maybe Alex is right and there's no problem.
Mike Rehmus August 2nd, 2003, 10:58 AM That's just a normal two-field image with, I'd guess, the camera panning. Sorry I didn't look at the posted image sooner.
Russ Evenhouse August 3rd, 2003, 06:41 PM Hmmmmmmmmmm,
When I add transitions between segments in Premiere, such as a page peel from A to B, the transition starts OK with the peel from A, but where the B segment should begin to appear, there is a black screen. As soon as the transition is complete, Segment B shows up.
So, it goes.. !00% A, peel to black, then when complete, 100% B.
Any Suggestions? I've made sure that the segments are butted tightly against each other. Nothing in troubleshooting about improperly functioning transitions.
Also, all transitions work just fine in Pinnacle Studio 7
Russ Evenhouse
K. Forman August 3rd, 2003, 07:34 PM I would zoom in to show frame by frame, and check it again. You may have something that doesn't belong, or a couple of frames off.
Devin Doyle August 3rd, 2003, 07:46 PM Russ, are you sure that the transition arrows are pointing in the right direction?
Ed Frazier August 3rd, 2003, 07:57 PM Russ, are you working in the A/B editing workspace or the Single-Track editing workspace? Since you mentioned A and B tracks, I'll assume you are working in the A/B mode. If that is the case, the clips need to be overlapped, not butted together. The amount of overlap determines the length of the transition.
Alan Burney August 3rd, 2003, 08:09 PM Hello to all.....Iv got . 1x highend PC..Premeir 6.5..DVD it/ VEGAS/
DVD architech..a Plextor dvd burner...a Canon XL1s....a Cannon zr5o...and experience as a 3dmax animator and premeir editer..Im also a MCSE student....bla bla bla .Im pretty techie...The thing is ..with all this knowledge I still cant get a nice quality burn to my dvd..
Wat am I doing wrong ....is it somthing to do with compression software and the fact that im capturing with a DV Canopus Rapter
card ..or the settings and resolution im useing in prem ..Please someone help....give me a dot to dot of the best process and settings useing the mpeg encoder in prem..and exporting.to get a quality burn...in architech or dvdit anything will do.....IV gone through so many renders and burns ...I dont think I can take any more..sorry to rant on, but Iv had this thing for the last 36 hours
and its doing my head in.....and is 720 x420 the right resolution for dvd....oh man ..my list of questions could go on forever....
Thanks in advance .....
Russ Evenhouse August 4th, 2003, 06:18 AM Russ, are you working in the A/B editing workspace or the Single-Track editing workspace? Since you mentioned A and B tracks, I'll assume you are working in the A/B mode. If that is the case, the clips need to be overlapped, not butted together. The amount of overlap determines the length of the transition.
Thanks for all the advice fellers. Ed wins the cigar. I feel a little humble now. I moved the second segment down to B and overlapped the edges to match the transition lengths, and the RAM previews show the transition working correctly now. I'm obviously not a Premiere afficianado yet.
Thanks, ED!!!
Russ
Ed Smith August 4th, 2003, 07:47 AM Alan,
What settings are you using?
What is the quality like at the moment? Pixelated, blurry, jumps?
720x480 is NTSC DVD/ Video resolution not 720x420
All the best,
Ed
David Hurdon August 4th, 2003, 09:14 AM I use the original Raptor card and the softMPG encoder from Canopus, purchased separately but integrated in the Premiere (6.02) timeline. I also use TMPGEnc outside of Premiere. The key settings for exporting mpeg2 are virtually the same no matter what encoder you use. Take a look at this site for specific advice on settings that work:
http://dvd-hq.info/Compression.html
I depart from them only in allowing video and audio to be exported together.
David Hurdon
David Woodland August 5th, 2003, 10:56 AM Hello. Recently, I've decided that I want to transfer my new skate DVD into widescreen. So here's the thing. I made a practice edit with the 16:9 option when you select what type of project you would like to do. Thing is. When I look at it on the tv it doesn't show up in widescreen format. Any help would be greatly appreciated! thank you, later
Ed Smith August 5th, 2003, 02:23 PM Hi people,
I am a fanatic for Premiere, but currently have a large problem. Please do not say buy Vegas - That is no help and I will never buy the product - YET.
Ok, here is the problem:
I had just captured nearly 2 hours of footage split like this:
1hour, 10mins, 45mins
I went to put the video on the timeline and it would only display the first 2.44mins of the 1hour clip, 1.01mins of the 10min clip and 1.19mins of the 45min clip - Whats going on?
If I play the clip in windows media play, it plays the whole of each clip. And says that they are 12 GB - 1Hour, 10mins - 1.73GB, 9.38GB for the 45min clip. These seem to be correct. The funny thing is that Premiere also sees the data size as this as well but will only display and play the clips as said above.
Looks like some sort of database problem.
I have reset machine, reset Premiere.
Any one come across this, or any ideas on what to do.
All the best,
Ed
Ed Smith August 5th, 2003, 02:29 PM Thats correct - Does it look vertically squished? This is correct if you are viewing on a 4:3 TV. However if you are viewing on a 16:9 TV it should fill the screen and look correct. The orginal footage needs to be 16:9.
If however your footage is 4:3 and you want to letter box the footage so that when displayed on a 4:3 TV you will get bars top and bottom. Then you will need to choose 4:3 project template and either clip the footage with the clip video effect or create a widescreen matte in the title designer.
Hope this helps,
Ed
Brian M. Dickman August 5th, 2003, 02:45 PM Which utility did you use to capture?
Bruce A. Christenson August 5th, 2003, 03:08 PM Recapture the footage ?
Rob Wilson August 5th, 2003, 03:39 PM I'm trying to create a rolling title in a small box over a graphic with video running behind it all. No problem with rolling text, but I can't seem to bound it into a box. It starts on inside but extends to the bottom of the page AND rolls off the top. I want it contained in the box. Also can't seem to find the Window, Window Optons, Title Window Options menu choice that the help screens talk about. Anyone have any suggestions? TIA
Alex Taylor August 5th, 2003, 07:56 PM Do you mean that when you put it on the timeline the clip only looks like it's about 3 minutes long, or after the first few minutes the clip is just black?
I can't think of what this could be.. try recapturing part of it. That's weird that it plays in WiMP though, hmm..
Ed Smith August 6th, 2003, 02:18 AM Brian,
- I used the Premiere Capture window set to DV devices, and DV template
Bruce,
- That would be my last resort!!!
Alex,
- When the clip is on the timeline it just displays the first 3min - No black just a straight cut.
The premiere properties says its a 3min clip but also says its 12GB!!! something strange happening.
Cheers Guys,
All the best,
Ed
Ed Smith August 6th, 2003, 02:21 AM Apply the transform filter effect found under the distort folder to the title. Then resize and place where needed.
All the best,
Ed
Nick Glenister August 6th, 2003, 04:02 AM Is it possible that the duration of the clip is defaulting to a set length? I have created several short promotion videos set to music and i frequently alter the duration and speed of clips to fit the music. Could it be that an option has been set so that footage over a certain duration is truncated to a more manageable size?
Have you tried grabbing the right hand edge of the clip and extending it to see if the remaining footage is there?
Does that make any sense at all?
Regards
Nick
Ed Smith August 6th, 2003, 06:04 AM Nick,
I don't think that I have set the clips to default duration because they are all different and odd numbers. Besides when I imported in another video clip, that one worked fine - It only seems to be on the 3 clips I captured recently.
Tried grabbing the right hand edge but it would not let me go any further.
Cheers Nick for your suggestions,
Ed
Nathan Gifford August 6th, 2003, 06:13 AM How much storage is left on the drive? It sounds like you are using NTFS, so that would be correct.
Ed Smith August 6th, 2003, 07:22 AM Good thinking Nathan,
Its an 80GB Maxtor 7200RPM drive. It had about 25GB free, by the end of capturing it left about 4.5GB
I have not tried freeing up more space- will try tonight when I get back from work.
If that don't work I will re-install Premiere
Any more suggestions,
All the best,
Ed
Rob Wilson August 6th, 2003, 08:38 AM Ed,
Thanks much, I'll give that a shot today.
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