The canopus driver I'm referring to is the Canopus driver/codec that all of the Canopus cards run on. I've been using one for about three years now, and didn't update the driver when I upgraded to Prem6.5. The "old" setup in Prem 5.1 rendered an hour program without any problems- I just haven't sorted everything out after changing over to Prem 6.5. Prem 6.5 runs much faster and has more features than the older version- using it is much better than 5.1, but there are some changes that need to be made. I haven't gotten into using the MS-DV codec yet,as recommended earlier in this thread. At any rate, I'm confident that it can and will be all sorted out soon when I load new drivers after finishing off a couple projects. Mike

RE: AVI File limits.

You might be interested in this

http://www.nct.ch/multimedia/avi_io/

AVI_IO is a work around to the current AVI file limitation problem. Note, it doesn't INCREASE the size of the AVI file limitation BUT DOES eliminate the "problem".

capture and playback up to 400GB of avi video and audio data in one step

Sean

Thanks Sean, I'll check it out. Mike

I want to capture a still frame from a clip in premiere. So i can then change the duration on that still frame so I get a hold effect. How do I snatch the still frame?

thanks in advance.

Jer

Look in the top left hand corner. Under the ...File Menu there is the Export Timeline selection. Select that and choose Export Frame. You can figure out the rest.

Can anyone tell me how to do this same thing in Vegas video 3?

thanks again,

Jer

Hey, I did a search and didn't get too much help. I have a 2.5 minute short that I just finished in Premiere 6.5 which was shot on a DV camcorder that I wanted to export to a file to view on my computer. I would like the highest reasonable quality to view. I converted using the default Microsoft DV (NTSC) compressor and it was a Microsoft DV formatted file type and the quality was piss poor, not to mention the file was only 500 megs. Then I tried going for the default quicktime compression with their Planar RGB compressor which was such good quality that it wouldn't run smooth on my pentium 4 2.4 gigahertz with a gig of rdram! not to mention the file was a rediculous 5 gigs or so big. So what compressor and file type should I use if I want to have good quality that isn't unreasonably big? Also, what is a good compressor for a video CD..... Thanks guys!

That the other file was 5 GB was due to you saving it uncompressed,
and to be able to play that back you will need at least a harddisk
that can sustain 33 mb/s or more to play back such a file. Not
a good idea, stick with another format/compression.

I don't understand why you would get such bad results from
exporting to Microsoft DV. What settings were you using? If
I export at full resolution and correct frame rate DV will look
fine to me.

So the following questions:

1. what is your input format (DV?), What resolution & fps?
2. if you output to DV what settings are you using?

Video CD needs to be MPEG1 at 320x240 for NTSC at 30 fps with
a max of 1125 (if I remember correctly) kbps. See the site
dvdrhelp (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/)
for more information.

Technical details of the VCD format can be found on this page (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/vcd)
on that site.

Rob, I think I just figured it out but to answer quetions - yes, my input is DV and it was captured with the Microsoft DV (NTSC) compressor at 720X480 with 29.97 fps (30). When I output, I was using 720X480 with the Microsoft DV compressor at 30 fps BUT the default is to use Square pixels with an aspect ratio of 1.0 and I changed this to D1/DV NTSC (.9) and this made it look MUCH better. Thanks for the help!

-Bryan

If you watch a fade to black closely in a movie, sometimes not all the screen will fade at equal speeds. It will kind of fade across the screen creating a very nice, smooth effect. Is there any software that can do it? I have Premiere 6 and AE 5 and was hoping one of them could do it so I didn't have to buy any new software. Premiere would be the best to do it in because I don't know AE at all. I need to learn it soon. Thanks!

Can you provide an example of a known film that includes the effect in question? It may be that you're just perceiving the greater dynamic range of film as the exposure is slowly cut.

You may be able to get a more pleasing result in a video fade-out as an in-camera effect if you can manage a nice slow closure of the iris.

I will try to find a section of a film. I thought that it might be what you said, the greater dymanic range, but then I thought it was a specific effect because it looked so much like one. I will see what I can do about finding the effect. (Would recording a 4 second section of a movie off a DVD on to my cam and then posting it on the web be considered copyright infringment?)

Thanks!

What you are looking for is a gradient wipe. You can find it in either Premiere or AE.

I don't use AE very often so I am really rusty. I don't use Premiere all that often either so I am a bit rusty there too. There seems to be at least two gradient wipes in Premiere 6. One is in the QT transitions and looks like just what you want except that it fades from top to bottom not side to side.

The other is the gradient wipe transition which is under the "wipe" group of transitions. The gradient wipe included creates a rather grainy fade on the diagonal - probably not the look that you are going for.

What you need to do is to create your own gradient fading across the screen. To do this go into any graphics program - Photoshop, Paintshop, whatever and create a greyscale image 720x480 pixels with a linear gradient going from white on one side to black on the other.

In Premeire drop in a gradient wipe transition. A gradient wipe dialog box should open. Click on "select image" and choose the gradient you just created. Adjust the softness using the slider bar in the dialog box and you should have what you want.

Rick

I've noticed something like what you're talking about in older movies that predate the digital age.. when they do a fade to black, it seems like the bright areas of the picture fade slower than the dark ones. I assumed it was something to do with the film negative itself.

The question intrigued me, particularly since experimenting with some advice I read on creating transitions above V1 using gradient mattes and keyframes. I don't know that what I've done comes close to your intent but it does create a fade to black that emphasizes the whiter areas for much longer than the gradient transitions I tried out. If I played more with the percentage options in the transitions I might have got the same thing done more simply - but in any case here's a jpg of the timeline, showing the opacity settings I used on a clip over black video over a white (235) matte.

http://www.contentshop.tv/fadetobl.jpg

What are some neat effects for premiere(effects that you do manualy not already created effects)?Thanks

In premiere how do you have a black and white clip and have the color sort of drain in? ive been trying to learn this effect for weeks.if anyone knows please reply to this with instructions.THANKS!

What are some neat effects for premiere(effects that you do manualy not already created effects)?Thanks

One way would be to put duplicate clips on track V1A and V2. Change the clip on V2 ro B&W and then fade it. The color on V1A will begin to show through until it is completely color.

Heres a starter for all you people:



this effect makes the person transparent. first of all when you shoot the video the camera needs to be perfectly still on the ground or tripod.first you tape the the shot where the person is going to be with the whole picture in the shot.when the person comes the camera should be in the same exact position as it was when you were shooting the shot without the person.capture the one without the person and the one with the skater put the one without the person on video B and the one with the person on video A or vice versaTHE CLIPS HAVE TO BE THE SAME LENGTH. in between the two clips is the transiton bar.put the transition dissolve on the track and stretch it to the length of the two clips.double click on the transition you put on and put fade in and fade out on 40 then render it. all of this should make the person transparent

I am in computer programming and back in my younger years
also did some graphics programming. Fading can basically be
done in two ways:

1. just fade down the numbers
In this approach you simply process all the pixels and decrease
their values down with your step size (the size of the steps
depent on how fast you want to fade out). This has a side effect
in that darker parts of the image are gone a lot faster than the
highlights. Thus you will see the brighter parts longer.

2. controlled fade
In a controlled fade you will only fade down a color if there isn't
anything brighter left. This has the effect that all the brights
fade down first and more levels will start to fade down the lower
you go and will fade out all at the same time in the end.

Ofcourse you can do some other playing with this and come up
with other approaches, but these two are the basic ones in my
opinion.

To get on topic again, I do not know which algorithms are being
used by the editors out there. But different algorithms or editors
might give different results. There is not one way to fade an image!

I don't think anyone can tell you about a "neat effect". Because
generally "neat effects" tend to not look professional at all and
scream home video! The most things professionals seem to use
are (for effects):

1. straight cut
2. a fast fade
3. color correction

That's about it. Ofcourse there are lot of movies with special/
visual effects, computer generated images, compositing and
what not.

Are you looking for something specific? A lot can be done in
Premiere in combination with a decent paint program!

Another way would be to use an animated Color Balance (HLS)
video effect.

Make sure you are at the point where the clip is to be black
and white. Add the filter and set Saturation to -100. Hit the
"Enable Keyframing" box (the one inbetween the filter title
and the 'f'). Go down the timeline to the point where you want
all the color back in. Change the saturation to 0 here. If you
scrub with rendering (hold down the ALT key, you can preview
it realtime!) you can see it going gradually from B&W to color!

Hi, thank you for reading this.

I have a problem with premiere. It seems to crash alot and when you play the timeline it does not play smoothly.

I have a amd duron 900MHz processor, 128Meg ram, a 60Gig 7200RPM Hard drive, running on windows 98 2nd edition.

My computer almost never crashes, but it seems to crash everytime I load Premiere. I'm using Premiere 6 with the 6.02 update.

I have the auto save set to every minute and wonder if it might be that.

The question I have is do I need to upgrade my pc and if so what is the best way to go, please remember that I'm on a buget. Just shot a music video that I'm trying to edit and now I have this problem.

If it is not hardware related please also forward any suggestions.

Most of premiere is still on default settings.

Thank you all very much

Llewellyn

Well seems that your low on RAM. Always the more RAM the better. Also you might want to change the preferences so that Premiere will use 90% of the RAM. Then if you have a second HD (hard drive) make that second HD the scratch disk drive.
Then one question. Do you have your camera connected to your computer via firewire when trying to preview?

Other than that you should be set.
I am running all the current apps on this:
dual 650MHz
512 RAM
3 HD (2x 20G Hd, 1x120G HD (scratch disk))
ATI Radeon 8500 128MB of RAM
Photoshop 7.01, After Effects 5.5 Pro, Premiere 6.0

I can run all those at the sametime too.
Normally I dont do anything major within Photoshop when I have the others up. Just small edits.
Hope that helps.
Rob

Thank you

Regarding your question, no I do not have the camera plugged in.

Now that I think about it while I was logging and capturing the pc never crashed, but now that I have lots of footage in the timeline it seems to crash.

Maybe it is a memory problem. I will upgrade soon.

This is a silly question, but where do you set the amount of ram that premiere uses. I just cannot find it.

Thanks alot.

Llewellyn

PS I have set the second hard drive to the scratch drive

I cant remember specificly. Just go through the preferences slowly and see if it is in there. It is in the same spot as in Photoshop. It lets you enter a % I think. It might only in Photoshop that they have that option. If so sorry about getting your hopes up.

What speed are you HD's, 5200rpm or lower?

Rob

Hard drives are 7200RPM for editing and my operating sysem runs on a 5200RPM hard drive.

Thanks

Llewellyn

Unfortunatly, premiere will never run 100% stable. It is not the fault of your computer, it is just prone to crashes on a lot of systems, plain and simple.

Your biggest problems are your low amount of ram and running win98. Windows Xp Pro is much better investment, it is leaps and bounds above win98 in memory management, stability, you name it, it is better.

If you were to put 1gb of ram and winxp you would think you have an entirely new system. By the ram, pc133 ram is EXTREMELY cheap at the moment if you hunt and grab it asap. Give it 6 months and it will be scarce and very expensive.

BUT that also depends on your chipset and board, what exact chip and board do you have. Some boards only allow up to 512mb ram.


Zac

You mention that you have alot of clips loaded into the computer at this point. I am wondering how much space is left on the hard drive for premiere to work with?
Double the amount of RAM for starters and if you can afford to get another hard drive your system should be much more stable.
Premiere has been very stable for me and I am constantly supprised at how many people seem to have problems with getting there systems stable with premiere. 2000 Pro is the most stable OS of the bunch for the purposes of editing though XP Pro is getting better.

It seems to me the latter fade method would have the effect of making an image go mostly gray before going black.

Thank you all for your advice. I just bought a new amd 2000+ processor and motherboard, with 512 DDR ram and the editing is now a dream.

I'm still using win98 2nd edition and no problems, but I'm still going to upgrade to win 2000.

Thank you again

Llewellyn

I am using 6.5 premiere and when I import an MP3 clip that is rated at 128 Kps to the time line and play it back, the sound is kind of tinty or has a metallic sound to it. Now when I play it on windows media player, it sounds fine like it's suppose to.

Am I missing something here? I've used the Studio 7 and 8 with no change in sound quality when I import MP3's, but when I import them to Adobe 6.5, I get a tinty metal sound to them. Any cure for this? I would like to keep the original sound of the MP3, but don't want to have to put filters on it to adjust the sound which I've tried already with no luck.

Why am I getting this tinty sound??

Thanks in advance.

Just a suggestion but try converting the MP3 first to a different format like a .wav or .avi. If there is no change in the audio quality when you change formats, then import it into Premiere. Then see if there is the audio quality change.

Using a lossy format like MP3 these kinds of audio quality changes should be expected.

Make sure the sample rate matches the settings in Premiere. Typically premiere will be 16-bit stereo at 4800kHz. Make sure your MP3 matches this. This doesn't have anything to do with the bitrate the mp3 is encoded at.

Premiere also doesn't handle MP3s very well. I usually convert them to WAV files beforehand, it avoids a lot of hassle you might come across.

MP3's can be prone to the "metallic" sound you describe, I've
noticed that a few times as well, especially with lower bitrates
(MP3's I encode are either 256 kbit or 320).

Best to convert to WAV indeed, this makes sure your problem
is not with Premiere. Most MP3 players can output to WAV instead
of your audio card (make sure any signal processing like equalizers
and what not is turned OFF!) and most serious audio applications
can as well.

I would not trust an NLE like Premiere with this task, especially
since it is so poorly with MPEG (which MP3 is) in general.

I exported my timeline to movie in Premiere 6.0 without any compression, yet the quality of my picture is terrible. It looks decent if I make the Quicktime or Windows Media Picture really small but if I blow it up to full screen it looks horrible. Do I need to change my "export settings" to a certain parameter just to get a decent pic....please help............thanx

There is no simple answer to your question. It depends on a lot
of things, but primarely where you want to output to. Do you want
to go back to tape? Or do you want to produce DVD, VCD or
SVCD?

Premiere (and any other NLE) has a lot of export settings and
you need (a lot) of time to get to know them well and understand
what it all does.

Here is a small rundown. I assume your project is in DV.

1. Output to another application
This is usually done in either DV itself or uncompressed (to not
loose any more information). This might be handy for a special
effects program or MPEG encoder.

2. Output back to DV tape
Use the print-to-tape feature to directly export it back to tape

3. Output to the internet
There are a lot of choices to go with here. You can output to
AVI, ASF, QuickTime (which are all CONTAINER formats. They only
contain data and don't compress it themselves. You need to select
an appropriate codec for this which largely determines how it looks).
Then there is MPEG1 & 2 which is a compression and file format
in itself. One thing left is Realmedia/video.

That more or less should cover the basic outputs you can have.
Things I haven't talked about are audio, resolution, framerate,
compression levels & codecs.

As you can see there is a lot to discuss and learn. And that is the
thing I can advise you most: tinker and learn. That is the best
way.

There are only a few golden rules (like export to your camere
must be done in DV at full resolution, DVD uses MPEG2 at full
resolution and VCD uses MPEG1 at half resolution). The other
formats basically leave you free.

Hi all ~ I've recently made the plunge into DV! For reference: here are the principal components of my rig - Sony VX2000/Sony VAIO 2.66 Ghz w/1Gig of RAM, 160 Gig hard drive & graphics accelerator card/Premiere 6.5 & AE 5.5. The subject of my first project was boardsports stuff, with fast cuts & cross-dissolves, so I didn't really notice the aforementioned flicker. I'm now working on a 'nature film" with a lot of slow (3-5 second) cross-dissolves in Premiere.

After rendering, when I view my film, there is a noticable slight flicker at the head and the tail of the cross-dissolve transition. At the beginning, it abruptly gets slightly darker as the transition begins, and gets suddenly lighter at the end of it. I searched and found at least one other user asking this question, but couldn't find a solid answer as to how to remedy it. Do I need a third-party transition plugin to get the best results? If so what do you recommend?

Thanks!

John, a couple of things you might check are:

Make sure the transition is transitioning from the first video clip to the second. It is possible to have this reversed which would result in something similar to what you describe.

Another thing to check is the length of the transition. Make sure the clips do not extend beyone the beginning or end of the transition. You might have to stretch the timeline out using the "+" key to notice any overlap.

Also make sure that there is extra footage at the end of first shot and beginning of second shot when using crossfade. Otherwise Premiere will be forced to repeat some footage, and this can look like flicker.

In short: Set the out point in first shot at least a second before the shot ends, and the in point in second shot at least a second into the shot.

That way Premiere will have 2 seconds of overlap to work with.

Hans Henrik

You did specifically mention cross dissolve so this probably isn't your problem but some months back I saw this result when using the additive dissolve, one above cross (in P6). I gave up using it for that reason.

It appears that Premiere 6.5 does NOT have automatic scene detection for capturing. Is that right?

Is there a plugin available that would add that function?

Thanks.

Premiere does not gave automatic scene detection. There is a stand-alone capture program called Scenalyser (www.scenalyser.com) that captures and splits into scenes. There used to be a freeware version for just splitting captured files but I couldn't find that on the Scenalyser page anymore. You can download a demo of Scenalyser and see if you like it.

Hans

Thanks, Hans.

In addition to Premiere 6.5, I have Pinnacle Studio 8.0 which does have automatic scene detection. I suppose I could capture in Studio then import the clips into Premiere for editing. Do you know any reason why that wouldn't work?

That might work. Both programs capture in AVI but I'd be willing to guess Pinnacle captures at a lower resolution. You could still import the clips into Premiere but they would be of lesser quality if this is true.

If you can change any settings in Pinnacle, get them as close as possible to Premiere's capture settings (720x480 resolution, 48kHz audio, etc) and you will have no problem at all.

Hello!
Is anyone aware of any Adobe Premiere user forums (other than this one) where I may go and pose questions on how to do a particular effect?

Thanks a bunch
Jean King

You might also check out www.wrigleyvideo.com and http://www.stevengotz.com/premiere.htm

Adobe has interesting forums for all it's products...After Effects, Premiere, Photoshop. Some good FAQs, too.

http://www.adobeforums.com

Hi Everyone,

I am still editing on 6.0...and I have a question about 6.5.

You might be able to do this in 6.0, and tell me if you can:

I want to add 2 different video clips running as smaller windows on the frame...

Also can you scale in size the video clips??

Or can you put in a picture and scale in size the image an dmove it around?

Thanks
jay