WEll I was really looking for a free plug-in or for somebody to tell me if it is possible to use the AE plug-in in Premiere. I copied it over but got an error upon trying to open premiere after that.

Sorry for the long waity tyo reply, I just got back on line. I want to thank Jack Robertson and David Hurdon for ther reply to my questions.

Fred Haber

Fred Haber -

I see by your profile that you're from Old Chatham, NY, Just want to say "Hi" from Columbiaville, NY! Small world! :)

I know a Floyd Haber. Any relation to you?

Cheers! :)

Ted

No relation Ed, but I think my wife had you as a student in school.
Nice to hear from you.

You can use Cinemotion and Cinelook with Primiere 6.5 Just put the plug-ins in the to appropriate plugins directory. On a side note, you CANNOT use the presets that come with Cinelook, which knid of sucks becasue there are a ton of settings you need to adjust.

I actually use a form of "Instant Sex" which is described by Clenn Chan above. I works very well and the render times aren't quite as bad as with Cinelook.

If your camera supports it, shoot in "Frame Mode" and you won't need to deinterlace.

Cheers,
Mark Jefferson

Unfortunately my camera doesn't have de-interlace. Do I need to do that before I use any of these plug-ins (sry I've never played with this stuff before). Also, will it look choppy on the computer when I play it back, because thats how one thing turned out after I finished it, I haven't tried watching it on a TV yet...haven't had a chance to dump it to tape yet.

If your camera doesn't shoot 24p (which it doesn't) then the best solution is to shoot 60i and use special software to convert it to 24fps.

Shooting progressive gets you close to the film motion look. You have 30p compared to 24p.

Frankly, I can rarely tell the difference between material shot on film or on video. I stopped trying to tell the difference. Hollywood movies on TV have lots of motion blur which looks like realistic motion to me.

I'd be more concerned about making video look good. You can remove the "halos" around edges by turning sharpening down (sharpening is characteristic of video). Try to avoid highlights. Before digital clipping occurs one of the colors will not have clipped yet.

If you want to make your movie look closer to a Hollywood production, try to improve your production values. This overall "film look" in my opinion is a better use of time than trying to make video look like it was shot on film.

Glenn Chan Wrote: " Film motion: Duplicate the movie onto itself, de-interlace the superimposed movie, and set opacity between 30% and 70% depending on how strong you want the effect to be."

I totally agree with you Glenn, however I have even tried doing the above the following way with also great results...

Duplicate the movie onto itself, de-interlace the bottom movie, de-interlace the top movie (with it's field order reversed), and set the opacity of the top movie to around 30% (or so).

Both ways preserve relsolution as opposed to a simple deinterlace by itself, where you loose half the resolution just like that.

Obviously other factors that have been mentioned come into play... but this is mainly for the simulation of "film motion" on video.

Cheers,
Jack

Thanks for all your help!!! One other question, when I set it to deinterlace in the settings in Premiere Pro, does it automatically do that when I export? I'm asking only because I don't se any other ways to say "deinterlace" and it will start doing it other than exporting. I tried exporting a small clip but didn't notice a huge difference at all, could just have been the type of video it was in the first place though.

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Every single time I copy a Plug-in over to Premiere Pro's Plug-in folder I get an error upon opening Premiere that it can't associate some file with ****.DLL. Its different every time but I can't get a single plug-in to go over to that directory and sucessfully open Premiere, Any ideas why?????

Tim,

I haven't used Premiere Pro, (I use Premiere v6.01) but in my version when I deinterlace a video in the timeline it has to be rendered and thus it should then play deinterlaced within the timeline. If you don't render the video and just export it it will do it during the export.

Yes there is a setting in the export box for deinterlace, but I would do it all in the timeline as you get to see what it looks like when editing, and adding effects and etc.

To deinterlace in the timeline in Premiere v6, you right click on the video and go to Video Options/Frame Hold/ then tick "Deinterlace" or you can do it in Video Options/Field Options/ then tick "Always Deinterlace" or "Flickler Removal" which blends fields together.

Just experiment a bit and get the look you need.

Jack

Hi,

I'm having to patch up a quicktime DV project originally out put from Final Cut. I have a demo reel which has some clips pulled from vhs. I just needed to replace the company name in the beginning and end. That is all done and it looks fine when i play it out to TV.
Now, when i encode it for DVD using the media encoder, the clips that came from VHS have an interlacing problem. It's not reversed fields. It looks like the video was scaled horizontally and the interlacing becomes visible. One line every four lines. All the other clips look fine. They are progressive CG animations.
I tried outputting a progressive mpeg, but it looks the same.
Like i said, the preview looks fine.

any ideas?

thanks

I'm currently editing the senior video from my school, and it seems that no matter what footage I'm capturing, I get this strange feedback. Its not like sqeaky mic feedback, its like this undulating noise. Like a drum beating, only electric. Its really hard to describe. Imagine a space ship, and think of the sound they would make, and its similar I guess. I thought it might be the firewire cable , so I bought a $30 monster firewire cable, and it still seems to be doing it. I also thought it might be the camera's mic, so I tried my XL1, and my partner's GL1, and then a shotgun mic on my partner's GL1, and it STILL does it. I'm not sure if its just my computer or not, but has anybody else had this problem?

I get little 'pops' in the audio while I capture but it's not on the clip when I play it back after it's captured.

This is a bit more than pops...its like major echoing pops. I'll see if it shows up on the clip when I capture.

Anyone have a problem with Premiere 7 (didn't have this problem in 6.5) where, when previewing, the audio is fine, but after exporting to a movie, the audio clips.

What makes it really strange is if i export to a wav file using the same audio settings, i don't get any clipping (just like when i preview in premiere)....

what's the deal!?

I am making a video where the background is set in a car and the bluescreen effect is a hand. I want the hand black and white, and the background color. Everytime i try to render the effect with b/w or some other color settings, the effect no longer shows. Anyone know how to get around this?

So...the bluescreen key doesn't work b/c you've now made the image Black and White, so now there's no blue in the scene at all, correct?

Possibly try the Color Pass video effect (included w/ Premiere 6, IIRC) -- this effect will make everything B&W, except for the one color you choose. Typically, you'll find it used to have, say, a child with a red balloon -- everything but the red balloon will be B&W. I assume you could try and use it to maintain a bluescreen as well.

If that doesn't work, try using the Chroma Key color picker to choose the background color (now probably a light grey instead of blue) -- use the sliders to adjust as necessary.

You can also try using a track matte. If you don't know how to do that, email me at mark@jeffersons.org and I'll explain. I use track mattes alot for this type of effect.

Cheers,
Mark Jefferson

Mark--

But track mattes are stationary, are they not? If the hands are moving, can he still use a track matte effectively?

(not trying to be contradictory -- just curious if there is a way to animate track mattes in Premiere)

32 bit will have it's good uses but I feel that it should be an option. Convert everything to 16 bit as a standard (if you were importing a 12 bit mp3 or the like) if you want but only do 32 if the editor chooses so and is going to need it.

i have problem with the sound too, but i think my problem is quite different, and i need help...thanks

the thing is, my computer reboot automatically when i was dealing with a 2 mins footage on premiere pro, then when i went back to premiere pro after the reboot, i continued with my work, but there is no sound anymore (it works fine in every other programs, even my premier6.5), then i tried to rendered the short clip to wmv, and it reboot again in the middle of the rendering, then after it reboot, i tried to render the wmv again and it worked, and i checked the wmv, the sound is there, but i dunno why, i am just no longer able to play sound on premiere pro anymore. i checked the setting u mentioned here above, but didnt seem to help much... anyone?

thanks

fixed.

Much to my surprise after installing the downloadable demo version of Main Concepts Main Actor edit programme I found I was able to import TS files into premiere pro simply by renaming them as .mpg. While I cannot play the files smoothly (I am running dual Athalon MPs at 2.6ghz) it is handy to be able to export and convert files via premiere. Have not tried after effects yet.

Interesting, my guess is that any directshow compatable mpeg2 decoder that recognizes transport streams would make it possible to bring mpeg2 into Premiere, has anyone tried Al's rename method after installing the $20 Elecard player? http://www.moonlight.co.il/down_eval.htm How about with Vegas and Premiere on the same machine?
How much does Main Actor cost?

With what equipment was the file captured? If I'm not mistaken
analog captures can have a different resolution then a DV "capture".
Also, Premiere is probably seeing the footage at the wrong aspect
ratio, unless it was captured at another resolution.

Some number might help us cracking your problem.

Sounds like the audio encoder for the file format you have chosen
is responsible for this, please tell us:

1) the audio encoder you are using when exporting

2) the settings (bitrate, frequency, bits etc. etc.)

Thanks, i'll try to be as detailed as possible.
First, I did find a solution, but it is not ideal. If I output the timeline as an uncompressed file and then drop that file into Procoder, it works fine. But i don't want the extra step.

I also had interlacing problems with Premiere 6.5 outputting to the Procoder plugin. It looked more like a field order problem. No setting would have a effect. If i output to DV or Uncompressed first, no problem. This wierd artifacting only shows up when the clip is a DV quicktime from Final Cut.

The clips in question this time around were most likely captured either from cable tv directly onto a dv deck or from VHS through a Canopus analog->DV box.
If i drop the quicktime clip into Procoder it works fine. It's only going directly from Premiere to Mpeg2 that it screws up. I've tried what seems like every setting that would have an effect in Premiere pro and Premiere 6.5.

thanks

I've had similar problems with Premiere in the past and simply
worked around them and now switched to Vegas. Can you tell
me what the resolution is of the analog file? (NOT the DV files).

For example. Analog PAL is often captured at 768 x 576 instead
of the standard DV PAL resolution of 720 x 576.

But it sounds like you've found the "only" solution...

I was into Linux earlier this year, and my roommate and I tried out Suze Linux with some success. It came with Main Actor, but I think it was a "junior" edition.

Try this out. (http://www.mainconcept.com/index_flash.shtml)

heath

The projects were NTSC DV 720x480.
I never really had analog capture files. All the footage was brought to the computer world with some form of DV hardware.

It was a television show originally shot on film. I guess it is possible it could have something to do with the 24 to 29.97 pulldown. It works fine unless i export to an encoder.
It's still a Premiere problem.
I guess i should try Vegas.

thanks