So you are playing back the footage you rendered with the Avid
codec from the Premiere Pro timeline? If so, I still think there is
some weird thing going on between the Avid codec and PPro.
Keep in mind, that the Avid codec was made before PPro came
out.

Perhaps they are working on a solution? Did you check Adobe
and Avid forums?

No, no. I fixed the Avid codec problem, now it is using the default Intel Video 5.10 codec that came with Premiere.

Hi, my name's Chris, and I'm a high school student who's trying to learn as much about DV as possible. I've learned a lot from reading these boards, but I have a few questions on something I'm still confused about.

I've read a lot about Vegas Video using a DV codec that is superior to the Microsoft codec (which I believe Premiere 6 used). I've recently upgraded to Premiere Pro, but is it still using the same low-quality Microsoft codec, or have they upgraded that as well? And if I wanted to take advantage of a better codec, how could I do that? Would I be able to capture my video in Vegas and then edit in Premiere Pro? Or would that not be any different from capturing and editing solely in Premiere?

Sorry for asking so many questions. Thanks for your help!

Hi all,
I'm new to Premiere and was curious if anyone has any good suggestions for audio filter or EQ settings to lower the background noise on the audio track. I'm currently using a regular cardioid condenser mic on a boom until I can get a shotgun. It works pretty good but outdoors near highways and inside shopping centers/malls picks up a fair bit of rumble (not wind rumble) even when relatively close-mic'd.

Any good ideas?

Thanks,

You can try to get rid of rumble by using a low shelf audio filter or a high pass filter. An equalizer will do the same thing. What you want to do is to lower the volume of the lower frequencies (around 100-200 and below).

Don't apply the effect too much or voices will sound distorted. Find a middle ground where voices aren't distorted and the rumble isn't annoying.

This will be easier in a good audio editing program that will let you preview the audio effect in real-time. If you have Premiere Pro you'd probably want to use adobe audition.

This doesn't answer your question but...

To learn about DV Codecs in general, I point you in the direction of the great Adam Wilt. His site (http://www.adamwilt.com) is chock-full of information on DV, including codecs, codec problems, and other misc. information on it.

Here's one thing on his site that's a little closer to what you're asking. It's not an answer, but it does give some specifics on codecs. http://www.adamwilt.com/DV-FAQ-editing.html

Finally, I want to congratulate you about learning as much as possible about DV. I began playing with video around 14, and ever since then I've been hooked. Now I'm 17, and I'm still learning lots about it.

Don't worry about asking questions, if you don't know, ASK. Somebody here is bound to know what you're talking about! Better you know the right answer than to risk it on something important.

Good Luck!

Actually Premiere does let you preview the changes on any audio effect; it has a 'Preview sound' box you can check in the setup window while you're adjusting frequency so the audio selection will loop itself with changes applies in almost real time.

I've tried the hi and lo pass with some success, I suppose I'm actually looking for parametric EQ settings. The graphic EQ helps somewhat, but the frequency bandwidths are rather wide with it being only a 7 band EQ.

Thanks,

Hi!
I have a trial copy of Adobe premiere 6.0 that I wish to use to capture to the hard drive some good footage I have. I need it to be the highest quality (broadcast) possible and have fiddled around a little with it. So far I have managed to capture some video but when I play it back it seems to have lines through it. the frame size seems to be set at 720x? Should this be larger? I want to keep this on file so I can start keeping track of footage rather than having to accesss the tapes each time. Problem being I don't want to record over the tapes until I'm sure that what I've captured is 100% perfect copy.

The other thing is, I may not decide to purchase adobe premiere after this trial is up and wonder if anyone has suggestions as to the best software for DV editing, and preferably easy (ier) to use. I'm a complete beginner and some of the options and the layout of premiere6.0 are rather daunting to say the least.
I hope this makes sense and any help would be greatly appreciated!

The lines you are seeing Brett could quite possibly be interlacing artifacts. Unlike TVs, computer monitors are progressive displays and often the footage will appear lined. If you could post an image of one of the frames we could better diagnose your problem.

If you want something that is easier to get the hang of then take a look at Vegas Video 4. It's a very popular NLE application and great bang for you buck.

That should play back fine, althought the quality shouldn't be
too great. Are you sure your PC and OS are fine? Something
really fishy is going on. Again I suggest you check out the
Avid or Adobe forums if they have those on their respective
sites.

PPro is just too new.

I would not buy Premiere 6.x because it lets you lose sync and doesn't have good color correction tools as well as other things. Premiere Pro or Vegas Video would probably be a better idea (I've never used Premiere Pro so I can't vouch for it).

All the NLEs will capture at the same quality. In Premiere 6.x, make sure your settings are set to the default DV settings (something like NTSC DV 48khz).

Ehm, Glen your post is a bit confusing. There is not Premiere Pro
6.x, I'm assuming you mean Premiere 6.x? Premiere Pro is
basically version 7.0

I took a quick look at the Adobe site and couldn't find any info
on the product specification pages for Premiere Pro. If they had
included such a codec one would think they would yell that at
you on those pages. So I'm thinking they are still using the
Microsoft one.

Now do keep in mind that the MS DV Codec has been getting
better since the first incarnations! Every new OS brings a new
version of the codec and I do believe a new version of DirectX
upgrades it as well.

Premiere Pro uses MainConcept's excellent DV codec.

How would I go about changing the codec I use for Premiere Pro? The video rendering codec drop list is grey out, so I can't select the one I want.

Chris: Capturing from Firewire does not use a software codec, it's simply downloading the encoded datastream from your camcorder. The encoding happened in your camcorder, in hardware. The point of "using a DV codec" for the output process only happens when you do a render out of your NLE. So if you edit and then *render* in Premier Pro, you will use the Premier (Main Concept) DV Codec. Editing and rendering out of Vegas will use the SoFo codec.

Ooops! Ok I fixed it now.

Thanks for all the help guys. This was my first time asking a question, and amazingly, it was answered within a day. This message board is definitely one of the most helpful DV resources I've ever come across. Thanks again for the help, and I'm sure you'll see another one of my questions soon.

What kind of codec would provide great quality (other than the Intel codec)?

Jeff,
On a similiar problem, I recently had two weddings with excessive background A/C noise that is too loud to ignore. I'm using Premiere 6.5 and the only thing that comes close to eliminating this hum is the High Pass audio filter. However, the remaining vocals are left sounding thin and tinney. Are you aware of a better way to filter out this noise. I'll also consider other software or plug-ins if someone has a good solution.
Thanks,
Bob

If you have an A/C Hum, use a notch filter or a parametric filter with a very high Q. Set the attenuation (negative gain) until you don't hear the hum anymore. Excessive attenuation will affect surrounding frequencies. Try notch filters on 60 and 120 Hz.
Sometimes, you'll need 180 Hz. You can identify the worst hums by using those settings and boosting the gain (+dB) to pronounce the hum. Once you are sure you have identified the
frequency of the hum, then attenuate. By using such frequency-selective filters, you can avoid affecting the rest of your audio.
If you know it's A/C hum, then notch filtering is better than anything else.

Most high pass or low shelf filters come in the 2nd order or 2 pole flavor. This means that their rolloff slope is -12 dB / octave. Since this slope is rather mild, as you move the center frequency up from the low values to your vocal range, the vocal range will be
deballsified when you reach an adequate level of hum removal.
Some packages allow high order filters, but most are simply cascades of more 2nd order sections that are all set to the same filter parameters. Cascading increases the rolloff slope, but it would be best to actually design higher order filters.

Hi all. Thanks for the quick response! I'll definitely look into Vegas video, sounds like it could be right up my alley!

Don't forget that Avid Free DV has just been released!

Now, I don't think that anybody would argue that the Avid interface is probably the most daunting of almost any interface out there, but some people take to it like a duck to water. I'm not one of those people, but hey - we can't all be wired the same way!

The point is, it's free! Totally free!!! It's also somewhat simple in that many of the higher-ended features have been disabled, so you have less options to worry about, like only 2 tracks of video. Only 2 audio channels. Did I mention it's free?

You may hate it. You may love it. You may love it so much, that in 6 months, you'll go out and plunk down $900 to buy Avid Xpress DV. That, of course, is what Avid is counting on. Either way, you could always download it and see if you like it. After all, it's free.

www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp

I would also like to make some comments regarding your capture problems with P6. Are you capturing through the firewire port from a DV camera? You have not specified. When you start a new project you set preferences for that project that tells Premire what codec to use for capturing/rendering/etc. Are you using a standard DV preset for those project preferences? We need specifics here in order to answer your question with any authority.

Keep in mind that just because you capture the clips with one program, it doesn't mean that every other program will open up those clips. Capture in Premiere, the file might not open in Vegas. Choose your editing program before doing a lot of digitizing footage.

Also, DV tapes are so cheap that I can't see a reason that you would ever tape over one. You said you wanted to keep your tapes on file instead of going back to the tapes each time. Fair enough. Having non-linear access to your tapes on your hard drive could be a real time saver. But for goodness sake, don't ever record over those originals. If there's even a slight chance you'll ever need that footage again, don't trust it to your computer. You hard drive has a much better chance of dying than to trust it with your original footage.

I just found out that Premiere Pro defaults to overlays when dragging a clip along the timeline.

Is there any way to make the default to insert the clip?

If you can't find it in your preferences then you probably can't.

Ehh, that SHOULD be an option...

But the truth is, while working on a project last night for the first time, I really got used to pressing ALT and dragging the clip, so it's not such a big deal.

Though it really should be an option.

Can't you choose to insert the clip from the Source window or does Premiere Pro do away with this setup (Source/Project windows)?

Hi all. I'm trying to upload audio from a cassette from my boom box, through my XL1s onto premiere 6.5
I have a 2-1 RCA to mini jack.
I plugged the RCA cables in the audio in/out on the back of the XL1s, and the mini jack into the phones jack on the boom box.
Am I doing this right?
I don't want to record the audio in the mini DV. I want to bridge it directly onto my hard drive.
1. Do I need a different type of jack?
2. How exactly do I acomplish this task?
3. How do I capture this onto premiere 6.5? Do I do an audio capture or movie capture with premiere?
I'm assuming that I have to set the camera into VCR mode right?
4.Do I press the A/V insert button on the XL1s handle?
Please help!
Sorry I these questions seem a bit aahhh stupid.

Not too sure about that...

I mean you CAN insert clips and whatnot.

I'm talking about when I'm dragging things along the timeline. You can't insert unless you hold the ALT key down... Kind of a hassle, but it works. If you don't hold down ALT, it'll overlay.

Hi Bernard,

If it was me I would use a seperate audio package, to capture the audio. This way you can by pass the XL1s and connect straight into your line input socket on your sound card.

However going through the camera might work although I have not tested it.

You can just capture audio in the movie capture window in Premiere. In the bottom left hand corner there are 2 small icons which resemble video and audio. If you select the video one, a red line will appear, this now means that you will only be capturing audio.

All the best,

Ed

Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone in here has successfully used DVFilm Maker with Premiere Pro. I get an error. This is what happens....

First, I capture my 24pA (Dvx100) footage from camera to Premiere as regular NTSC 2:3:3:2 footage. Then, I save this as a regular DV-AVI file which I take into DVFilm Maker and convert the 2:3:3:2 pulldown to 24p. Once converted, I then take this footage back into Premiere and open as a new project with editing mode set to Video for Windows and a Timebase of 24.00 frames/second. I then import the previously converted footage into this timeline and make the edits that I need, etc. Once finished, I export the timeline material as a Quicktime file set at 24fps which I then take into DVFilm Maker to convert the footage from 24P back to a NTSC 3:2 pulldown to view on TV or video tape.....

The problem is, on this last step when I hit PROCESS, I get an error saying "Not a DV codec". It didn't matter what codec I tried on this last step because I get this same error message.

Has anyone gotten this before? What did you do to remedy this? Am I doing the steps correctly?

Thanks for any help!

Hi all,
I've been editing some short skits for church and have thus far been dumping it back to my Canon GL-1 and using as a VCR for playback. I do want to archive it to DVD, though, something I haven't done before. What's the best way to do this with the Premiere bundle? I will probably load the videos from the Canon to the church's video computer (also running Premiere) since I don't have a DVD burner at home; is there a way to burn the DVD straight from the camera or do I need to load it onto the computer first? If I do load it, do I have to do the 'movie capture' method from within Premiere or is there an alternate transfer method?

Thanks,

this happens to me constantly and it drives me UP THE WALL! i get a bit better results with scenalyzer, which people seem to like better than premiere's capturing features. i like using premiere personally, but it happens so much i just can't continue to use it for capture.

i find the gl2's playback features a little sluggish, and i've been thinking about getting a cheapo dv cam just for capture. but buying the gl2 didn't exactly leave me with a lot of cash :)

You want to load it onto the computer first. If you know where the the footage ends (near where the timecode ends) then you can enter in timecodes and premiere will capture for you. Otherwise capture now and Premiere'll also capture for you.

Or you can use a firewire drive to transfer files from home to church.

I would use DV tape to archive though. But that's just me.

I've been told that I need to select QUICKTIME as the editing mode for my project. The problem is, I don't have QUICKTIME in the drop down box. All i see is 'Video for Windows' and 'DV Playback' as options.

Can anyone confirm if they have the ability to select Quicktime as an editing mode? Thanks!

Okay, in case someone wants to know the latest on this.....I was told that Adobe Premiere Pro no longer supports QUICKTIME as an editing mode.

This sucks.

It's not just the GL2 (though it could be a Canon issue).

I use a ZR40 as my capture deck and Pro has been doing this same thing. It's not a huge deal, I turn the camera off then on again and it's fine.

Thanks for the info Ed.

<<You can just capture audio in the movie capture window in Premiere. In the bottom left hand corner there are 2 small icons which resemble video and audio. If you select the video one, a red line will appear, this now means that you will only be capturing audio.>>

I did not know that about Premiere.
But I was unable to upload the audio.

Do you or anyone else have any other suggestions?

I was looking at the 17-inch Mac notebook with the Final Cut Pro 4 for on site field editing. I make TV commercials and some clients just couldn't make up their mind. I upgraded to Premiere Pro and took my editing on site, shoot and edit the changes on the fly, and get the approval on the fly. Make the master miniDV on the spot.

I should have had this a long time ago. Premiere Pro rocks. I love the sequence thingy. Just like composition in After Effects. And the voice over on the fly, the car salesman just realized that he sounded good on TV.

I'm shopping to buy the Firestore FS-3, and still deciding to add Sony DSR-PD150 to replace the XL-1 for portability. Also, looking for a portable pro audio mixer for notebook...edirol???

Motion still lags in Premiere Pro. It is better but I wish I have all the bells and whistles of Matrox RT-X100 on the notebook, flares, liquids, etc.

I called adobe today and talked to them about putting 24p in premier so we can capture in 24p. And the guy is goign to forward the message to the adobe team. They said everyone has been asking for it. Do you guys thing it will happen anytime soon?

It will determine the future of the product. No 24p and Premiere becomes a consumer/prosumer product. If it gets 24p in the future, Adobe will be aiming at a more professional market. Time will tell.

I was having a similar problem but not with 24p. I would drag my footage into dvfilm & it would say something about it being Type I. The resulting 30P footage was in quicktime.

I fiddled with the settings & also downloaded ulead's free type I to type II converter which did the trick. The output is now an avi file not the mov file I was first getting & frustrated with.

I'm not sure which tweak solved the problem, probably the ulead converting utility which you can get at ulead.com
http://www.ulead.com/download/freedownload.htm

I have no idea if this will help you with 24P in premiere but I hope so.

yeah it is called Premier Pro. They need to act like pros.

Gents,

I recently downloaded Microsoft's adobe 6.5 plugin Media Encoder 9. At first I was happy with all the added encoding options for the web Such as WM9, WM8 & WM7 etc.... but all of a sudden it quit working properly.

It will still encode the project but when I try replaying the new file I only get the audi...no video....?

What gives ? I have removed and reinstalled it to no avail....

Anybody else exprienced this ?

Thanks

Hello.

i am using a canopus raptor rt2 with premiere pro and the video works great but i'm getting no sound from the pc.

the sound works fine in every other program, just not in premiere pro.

matthew

Matthew,

This is a Gotcha from PP. You have to go into project settings, general, playback settings and then change the Audio Playback from DV to "Play Back on Audio Hardware". Worked for me.

Can anyone recommend a program or plug-in for Premier 6.0 that will allow me to export my timeline from Premiere to MPEG 1 and MPEG 2? I know Cleaner 5 will do it but I’m hoping to spend a lot less than 500 bucks. I have other encoding software but they do not plug in, I must encode my time line.

Steve

Your best bet may be to upgrade to 6.5 and enjoy the Main Concept encoder, which is very close to TMPGEnc in output quality and much faster. For $150USD (last time I looked) you also get a great titler and some real time preview if you're using firewire versus a proprietary card. Plus the PAR bug is fixed so you can work properly with 16:9 source material.

David Hurdon